Today Zaobao's rubbish article about Russia and China by 刘梦熊
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This is the article by Liu Meng Xiong:  


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The writer, 刘梦熊, blames China for not supporting Ukraine. He named Russia as aggressor.  


Then, 

1. Why he never blames US for stirring up the war in Ukraine and never support any peace effort?  

2. Why he never blames NATO and US for shifting military bases nearer and nearer to Moscow?  

3. Why he never blames US for invading Afghanistan for 20 years?  

4. Why he never blames US for invading other Mid-East countries like Syria, Libya and Iraq etc?  

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The Chinese will fail by the hands of its own race

Just like the niggers in America, thumbing own race down
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#3

Forget to eat medicine lah? Rotfl

“Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind"
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(06-04-2023, 06:43 PM)webinarian Wrote:  This is the article by Liu Meng Xiong:  


[Image: zaobao02.png]

The writer, 刘梦熊, blames China for not supporting Ukraine. He named Russia as aggressor.  


Then, 

1. Why he never blames US for stirring up the war in Ukraine and never support any peace effort?  

2. Why he never blames NATO and US for shifting military bases nearer and nearer to Moscow?  

3. Why he never blames US for invading Afghanistan for 20 years?  

4. Why he never blames US for invading other Mid-East countries like Syria, Libya and Iraq etc?  

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Kena brain washed lah.
How come he never blame NATO break promises and Eastward expansion 5 times?
This is the main factor causing today Ukraine and Russia war.

“Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind"
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Because Russia is an aggressor that invaded a sovereign country and is condemned by most countries in UN including Singapore.

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刘梦熊 is right

刘梦熊 is right about china CCP is a Chow cheese pie country
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刘梦熊因东方明珠案发信及电邮威吓特首梁振英及廉政专员白韫六,要求二人终止其东方明珠案的刑事调查,被控妨碍司法公正。及后,于2016年2月29日在区域法院被裁定罪名成立,判监18个月,在赤柱监狱服刑,2017年2月27日刑满出狱。2018年3月2日,香港高等法院上诉法庭拒绝刘梦熊的上诉许可申请。其后他向终审法院提出“终极上诉”获批出上诉许可,2019年5月9日开庭审议后上诉遭驳回,刘梦熊以“击鼓鸣冤,证实是冤,击鼓有罪,千古奇冤”16个字来形容心情。

2020年4月3日,政府刊宪(第24卷第14期第1548号公告),因为妨碍司法公正罪成而判监超过一年

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Walahneh! 

Why Zaobao get this type of people to write for the paper?  Angry
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(06-04-2023, 06:59 PM)sgbuffett Wrote:  Because Russia is an aggressor that invaded a sovereign country and is condemned by most countries in UN including Singapore.

Both NATO and Russia are aggressors lah.

“Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind"
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(06-04-2023, 07:04 PM)cityhantam Wrote:  刘梦熊因东方明珠案发信及电邮威吓特首梁振英及廉政专员白韫六,要求二人终止其东方明珠案的刑事调查,被控妨碍司法公正。及后,于2016年2月29日在区域法院被裁定罪名成立,判监18个月,在赤柱监狱服刑,2017年2月27日刑满出狱。2018年3月2日,香港高等法院上诉法庭拒绝刘梦熊的上诉许可申请。其后他向终审法院提出“终极上诉”获批出上诉许可,2019年5月9日开庭审议后上诉遭驳回,刘梦熊以“击鼓鸣冤,证实是冤,击鼓有罪,千古奇冤”16个字来形容心情。

2020年4月3日,政府刊宪(第24卷第14期第1548号公告),因为妨碍司法公正罪成而判监超过一年

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Walahneh! 

Why Zaobao get this type of people to write for the paper?  Angry

Even got Gongkias endorse what he wrote. Really df
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(06-04-2023, 06:59 PM)sgbuffett Wrote:  Because Russia is an aggressor that invaded a sovereign country and is condemned by most countries in UN including Singapore.

Who invaded Afghanistan for 20 years and then ran away in the dark after midnight?  


Why so embarrassing and doing things in the dark? Didn't even inform allies to run together.  

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#11

Someone doesn’t know how to read Chinese? Did he blame China for not supporting Ukraine ? Isn’t what he said is true tt the joint Russia-China declaration is not in line with Deng Xiaoping’s open door policy?



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(06-04-2023, 07:01 PM)grotesqueness Wrote:  刘梦熊 is right

刘梦熊 is right about china CCP is a Chow cheese pie country

Of course, you falungong element surely say so lah.   


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(06-04-2023, 08:03 PM)teaserteam Wrote:  Someone doesn’t know how to read Chinese?  Did he blame China for not supporting Ukraine ?  Isn’t what he said is true tt the joint Russia-China declaration is not in line with Deng Xiaoping’s open door policy?

Whether in line with Deng xiaoping or not is decided by people in China, not by you lah.  


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China is the one in the world urging for peaceful settlement by Ukraine and Russia and Macron of France is supporting this plan by China and Zelensky also not expressing opposing.  

Only US is still insisting for war.  

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Time to stop reading zaobao.

The real Ukraine warmonger, from the horse mouth.
https://youtu.be/PT0KBxPPfok
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刘梦熊 is telling the truth

those chow cheese pie wumaos do not wants to hear the truth
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(06-04-2023, 08:11 PM)webinarian Wrote:  
Whether in line with Deng xiaoping or not is decided by people in China, not by you lah.  


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U mean what Deng xiaoping had said were all nonsense and cannot b quoted without the approval of people of China? When did people of China has such a power? Dun kid me please.



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Writer should read up on the history and carefully trace out the agreement pacts one by one term by term condition by condition. Then write.
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(06-04-2023, 08:42 PM)teaserteam Wrote:  U mean what Deng xiaoping had said were all nonsense and cannot b quoted without the approval of people of China? When did people of China has such a power?  Dun kid me please.

This is what you said hor.  


What line to take is decided by the gov in power now and is working well.   

Liu Meng Xiong can't decide for China what line to take. That is why it is rubbish.     

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Don't know why people will bring out Deng XP? He is already dead long ago. The person ruling China now is XiJP. You mean in future Lawrence Wong must rule Singapore like what Lee HL does now and not allow to change course to adapt to the situation in the future?
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#22

Who bring about peaceful solution for Saudi and Iran?   

Is it US?   

China is real peace maker. China is doing now for Russia and Ukraine.   

Who is very unhappy for world peace?   

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(06-04-2023, 06:43 PM)webinarian Wrote:  This is the article by Liu Meng Xiong:  


[Image: zaobao02.png]

The writer, 刘梦熊, blames China for not supporting Ukraine. He named Russia as aggressor.  


Then, 

1. Why he never blames US for stirring up the war in Ukraine and never support any peace effort?  

2. Why he never blames NATO and US for shifting military bases nearer and nearer to Moscow?  

3. Why he never blames US for invading Afghanistan for 20 years?  

4. Why he never blames US for invading other Mid-East countries like Syria, Libya and Iraq etc?  

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I can't read the entire article as I have no Zaobao subscription, but a few comments just based on the truncated one:

1) The writer never establishes how opening up and economic reforms have anything to do with this so called "siding with Russia". All he did was just declare this is equivalent to China reversing all its reformation achievements to date without even bothering to explain any logic, much less present evidence.

2) Anyone who goes around harping over deviations from what Deng Xiaoping said is basically declaring that the world does not change and no matter what the circumstances everyone should follow what a past leader say. This is the same idiotic thing that Hua Guofeng did when he came up with the "Two Whatevers" policy in which any deviation from what previous leader Mao preached was considered bad. Ironically it was Deng who told the CCP leaders to start thinking for themselves according to the facts and stop the mindless Mao blabbering. Comical to see 50 years later we have the same idiot who tells everyone that we should do whatever Deng says and that's that.

3) His insistence that China's good relations with Russia is equivalent to a declaration of war with the "west" is not coherent with the facts on the ground. Many major European powers such as France, Germany and Spain have reservations, but are also cautiously optimistic there could be room to move towards peace if China's peace plan can be implemented. In fact, even Zelenskyy has indicated he would like China to get involved in finding a settlement going forward. Does this sound like a "declaration of war" with the west? Has this idiot been living in a cave for the past few months?

4) This is another one of those "China's neutrality is fake" derangement syndrome commonly seen in both pro-US and pro-China supporters. The problem though is so far nothing suggests China is deviating from its neutrality. It continues to maintain good political and economical relations with both Russia and Ukraine. Putin did a brother brother thing with Xi recently, Zelenskyy told the French he is not interested in any peace meeting without Biden and Xi and he also recently invited Xi to Ukraine. 

5) The rest of the stuff is just ranting over how unjust Russia is to attack Ukraine and why it is morally wrong to "support" Russia. If ranting about morality works, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria and Libya wouldn't be where they are today. Moral ranting is for pimple faced teenagers and bleeding heart activists who have no solutions to the world's problems. Zaobao says this guy is the Chairman of some strategy think tank, yet his arguments are either missing logical links, go against facts on the ground or worse still are stuck at an emotional level quibbling over what is morally right or wrong. Very adolescent.
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(06-04-2023, 06:43 PM)webinarian Wrote:  This is the article by Liu Meng Xiong:  


[Image: zaobao02.png]

The writer, 刘梦熊, blames China for not supporting Ukraine. He named Russia as aggressor.  


Then, 

1. Why he never blames US for stirring up the war in Ukraine and never support any peace effort?  

2. Why he never blames NATO and US for shifting military bases nearer and nearer to Moscow?  

3. Why he never blames US for invading Afghanistan for 20 years?  

4. Why he never blames US for invading other Mid-East countries like Syria, Libya and Iraq etc?  

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What can we expect from our one sided pro US brain washed MSM ?
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(06-04-2023, 08:37 PM)Alice Alicia Wrote:  Time to stop reading zaobao.

The real Ukraine warmonger, from the horse mouth.
https://youtu.be/PT0KBxPPfok

American media like many here have said cannot be trusted. Obviously thus group is anti Biden and would be against anything by Biden.

If Russia is sincere about a cease fire, it should withdraw from Ukraine first before requesting a cease  fire. During war an invader will offer cease fire so he can more time to resupply his troops on the ground and become more effective later.

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(06-04-2023, 10:18 PM)sgbuffett Wrote:  American media like many here have said cannot be trusted. Obviously thus group is anti Biden and would be against anything by Biden.

If Russia is sincere about a seize fire, it should withdraw from Ukraine first before requesting a seize fire. During war an invader will offer seize fire so he can more time to resupply his troops on the ground and become more effective later.

Ceasefire lah, wrong 3 times not typo
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(06-04-2023, 10:18 PM)sgbuffett Wrote:  American media like many here have said cannot be trusted. Obviously thus group is anti Biden and would be against anything by Biden.

If Russia is sincere about a cease fire, it should withdraw from Ukraine first before requesting a cease  fire. During war an invader will offer cease fire so he can more time to resupply his troops on the ground and become more effective later.

Obviously, you didn't watch the whole video. The woman said that the pro-war Republican also benefit from this war in Ukraine.
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(06-04-2023, 08:54 PM)Clyde Wrote:  Don't know why people will bring out Deng XP? He is already dead long ago. The person ruling China now is XiJP. You mean in future Lawrence Wong must rule Singapore like what Lee HL does now and not allow to change course to adapt to the situation in the future?

Some old kocks doesn't know time and situation changed.  


They don't see how Trump and Biden hit out at China and Chinese firms.  

They don't see how President Nixon was friendly to China. Old kocks are really talking rubbish by bringing up Deng Xiao Ping. Low IQ!  

Rotfl 
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(06-04-2023, 10:18 PM)sgbuffett Wrote:  American media like many here have said cannot be trusted. Obviously thus group is anti Biden and would be against anything by Biden.
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You talk rubbish.  


You don't see who started the trade tariffs against China, technology war, banning of Huawei and many firms in China, etc etc?  

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