[moonrab]

What you said is true. There is political damage.

He was put in a difficult position ...because the alternative was to force Reeasah to tell public she was assaulted when her own family didn't know.

At that time he had to decide and out of compassion he gave her space to .hold on to the position.... but Reeasah for some strange reason cracked and took a different route.

Rather silly given her original narrative was done for a reason and with noble.intention to highlight the plight of women
.

Prit single handed destroyed WP...

[debono]

Prit single handed destroyed WP...

PS should do something to get back the smear of WP, to get into the good books of residents of SengKang....

[Instinct]

PS should do something to get back the smear of WP, to get into the good books of residents of SengKang....

What good book lah which is not the most impt thing.  More important now is to get her to own up to her responsibility for lying in parliament and her betrayal of people's good faith in giving her time to heal for her own sex assault. That's why WP did not expose her lie immediately.

[ArielCasper]

Of course RK needs to answer for her folly. But she had pulled PS down by saying that it is PS who asked her to keep to her lie.  This revelation will make PS credibility lose votes and could make him lose his standing as an opposition leader.  There will still be some who will still vote for PS in the next GE, but then he might be disadvantaged and handicapped as an opposition leader of a political party......

True, for damage control, PS have to step down as Secretaries-general of WP no matter what is the outcome..

I am more interested about what RK say now.. If PS (and only PS) asked her to keep quiet, then as an educated adult, if she think she is right, she should just ignore what PS say and go ahead with what she think is right.. If she think PS is right, then she herself agreed to what PS proposed, then now dragging in PS and positioned it like as if she is a slave who obeyed what her master said, added more damages to her character (which she probably don't care at this point)..

Anyway, why must opposition leader die die has to be PS.. He mishandled this case, so time for someone else to lead WP..

Fortune favors the brave ones at this juncture..

[Instinct]

Pap die die will grill until WP collapse. So next GE no more WP. 😱😄😜

[debono]

Pap die die will grill until WP collapse. So next GE no more WP. 😱😄😜

That is what I think so too.  PAP's role is to fix the opposition, so that there is no political party to be represented in Parliament....

[Huliwang]

That is what I think so too.  PAP's role is to fix the opposition, so that there is no political party to be represented in Parliament....

Of course PAP will go for the kill. This is politic and it is brutal - it is a kill or be killed game played by people you better dun trust.....

[mikotan]

getting more obvious. looks like a mole??

[sgbuffett]

Of course PAP will go for the kill. This is politic and it is brutal - it is a kill or be killed game played by people you better dun trust.....

Remember they tried to bring down the WP using the town council issue....but couldn't....and the voters return the WP team with even higher votes.

Unfortunately the RK incident gives them a line of attack.

[debono]

Remember they tried to bring down the WP using the town council issue....but couldn't....and the voters return the WP team with even higher votes.

Unfortunately the RK incident gives them a line of attack.

Many things had been thrown at WP, but they survived and thrive. But with this RK incident, it leaves much to be desired.....

[singlon]

I just turn on my TV committee is hard at work
targeting Mr Babu Singh instead of the Lier
How i know?
On the international level with US Corporation on the Brink of POKKAI, Kerry is still on COP26 aka Federal reserve act 2.0
Matter is boiling hard.
No mony dat the problem not Mr. Singh.
Stay strong the storm coming hard anytime soon.

[moonrab]

PS should do something to get back the smear of WP, to get into the good books of residents of SengKang....

Honestly, once proven by COP that his intention in directing Khan to bring the lies into the grave, is true...

His leader role in WP will be very short live.. 
The WP party members may seek for his resignation...soon in my opinion.

[Sticw]

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[sgbuffett]

Honestly, once proven by COP that his intention in directing Khan to bring the lies into the grave, is true...

His leader role in WP will be very short live.. 
The WP party members may seek for his resignation...soon in my opinion.

 Pitram Singh stepping aside ... he has been so friendly to the pap and seem at times to work with them and careful not to push the boundary and with no ambition of taking power.....sometimes make me wonder what is their purpose to go to parliament just to check on the PAP?

Checking on the pap means what? PAP continue business as usual and WP just check them?

That is a really low bar. 

Not that the climate allows opposition to do more. But somehow we wish for someone who can do more

[debono]

Honestly, once proven by COP that his intention in directing Khan to bring the lies into the grave, is true...

His leader role in WP will be very short live.. 
The WP party members may seek for his resignation...soon in my opinion.

If the WP members seek PS resignation, I see the WP's demise is close at hand.  Because PS is the leader of opposition parties, his going away may spell the loss of opposition in Parliament.....as other opposition parties are not able to garner enough votes to make it into Parliament.....

[Gemstar]

I felt it is right that Raesah shd personally bear the brunt of consequences for telling lies in the first place, since she already admitted it. Nobody hv forced her to create or made up such lies. Therefore, it is unethical to pull others into the Committee of Investigations interrogations process, which I felt is unnecessary.

[moonrab]

Section 203

Interfering with investigation, destroying evidence with intention to help criminal escape conviction subject to punishment..

COP duty is to investigate Khan's intention of the lies, in Parliament that maligned SPF...
Misleading all law makers seated in Parliament..

Any party involved, interfering, covering up, helping to hide the untruth, must be investigated too..

[Oyk]

I'm not trying to cover for RK.

It's just the kettle calling the pot black. Opposition makes a mistake all MIW jump onto it. When mistake is made by them they just hush up and sweep under the carpet.

The MIW jumped into it in your imagination.  As far as the record goes, they were all silent.

When Michael Palmer made a mistake, he manned up and admitted it, apologised to Singaporeans and resigned.  Yaw Shin Leong...same thing but he fled without an apology and never resigned.

When Ivan was accused of blah blah blah, PAP pulled him out of the election  
RK?  Pritam Singh took a  gamble...and went ahead.  Well, WP won Sengkang and we all paid $16K EVERY MONTH to that woman to tell a lie three times in Parliament.

Big difference.
]
Stop trying to defend that liar.

[debono]

The MIW jumped into it in your imagination.  As far as the record goes, they were all silent.

When Michael Palmer made a mistake, he manned up and admitted it, apologised to Singaporeans and resigned.  Yaw Shin Leong...same thing but he fled without an apology and never resigned.

When Ivan was accused of blah blah blah, PAP pulled him out of the election  
RK?  Pritam Singh took a  gamble...and went ahead.  Well, WP won Sengkang and we all paid $16K EVERY MONTH to that woman to tell a lie three times in Parliament.

Big difference.
]
Stop trying to defend that liar.

It is obvious now that RK is going to bring WP down and out of Parliament. Every GE, WP had won some GRC and SMC in the various wards.  We should not hope to see WP getting out of the picture, and maybe we will be left with no opposition party in Parliament.  Do we want that to happen..?

[Oasis]

PAP is strict on MP"s conduct, right?
Can WP follow the standard?

[debono]

PAP is strict on MP"s conduct, right?
Can WP follow the standard?

WP must follow the PAP's MP standard, and leave no stone unturned.....

[Blasterlord2]

WP must follow the PAP's MP standard, and leave no stone unturned.....

Follow standard ok, but really do we want a party without compassion?

I am sure this saga has shaken PS's faith totally. In a similar situation the next time round, PS is likely to tell the offender, 'sorry, I don't care about your predicament, but I won't give you time to think about how to settle it with your family'.

What began as compassion for a fellow human's situation has turned out to bring trouble for oneself. So better to follow LKY's way, 六亲不认。

[lylcnn]

Follow standard ok, but really do we want a party without compassion?

I am sure this saga has shaken PS's faith totally. In a similar situation the next time round, PS is likely to tell the offender, 'sorry, I don't care about your predicament, but I won't give you time to think about how to settle it with your family'.

What began as compassion for a fellow human's situation has turned out to bring trouble for oneself. So better to follow LKY's way, 六亲不认。

Pritam's sole consideration in asking RK to keep quiet is his compassion? Why is it not possible to admit in October sitting that a lie had been told, without mentioning about sex assault experience?

[Oyk]

It is obvious now that RK is going to bring WP down and out of Parliament. Every GE, WP had won some GRC and SMC in the various wards.  We should not hope to see WP getting out of the picture, and maybe we will be left with no opposition party in Parliament.  Do we want that to happen..?

"Left with no opposition".............that is the fooking line which was sung during every fooking GE that got WP back time and again.

The fooking line was alternatively rephrased as "Do not give PAP a blank cheque"

Yup, you buggers gave RK a $16K cheque every fooking month.

Stop trying to defend WP.

Singapore has more than one fooking oppo party.

Dr Chee can easily take over from WP.

WP is now just a bunch of jokers.

[luncheonmeat]

The MIW jumped into it in your imagination.  As far as the record goes, they were all silent.

When Michael Palmer made a mistake, he manned up and admitted it, apologised to Singaporeans and resigned.  Yaw Shin Leong...same thing but he fled without an apology and never resigned.

When Ivan was accused of blah blah blah, PAP pulled him out of the election  
RK?  Pritam Singh took a  gamble...and went ahead.  Well, WP won Sengkang and we all paid $16K EVERY MONTH to that woman to tell a lie three times in Parliament.

Big difference.
]
Stop trying to defend that liar.

You rewriting history? Dat Ivan fella wasn't "pulled out" as PAPaya will seldom admit mistake and was hoping for a repeat Tin Pei Ling outcome. In fact Ivan was strongly sarported by the bigwig ministars until Ivan himself couldn't handle the pressure and wisely quitted so as not to distract and drag the party down.

As for Mango Palmer, he was exposed by his mistress' boyfriend who went to the press with evidence. You may call dis "manning up' and 'admitting', I call dis falling on his knees. He had no choice in the matter. What makes it more galling iz dat it happened after YSL scandal. He either couldn't break it off or thot social mores no apply to PAPaya's high and mighty. Whichever it was, he had a chance but dint learn from YSL painful lesson. 
PAPaya got the luxury of saying it was an honest mistake [eg, Tin Pei Ling's minions still posting on FB on cooling off day] and 'moving forward'. For the opp  however, any trangression no matter how trivial will be blown up and brought to the attention of mata and due process.

[Oyk]

You rewriting history? Dat Ivan fella wasn't "pulled out" as PAPaya will seldom admit mistake and was hoping for a repeat Tin Pei Ling outcome. In fact Ivan was strongly sarported by the bigwig ministars until Ivan himself couldn't handle the pressure and wisely quitted so as not to distract and drag the party down.

As for Mango Palmer, he was exposed by his mistress' boyfriend who went to the press with evidence. You may call dis "manning up' and 'admitting', I call dis falling on his knees. He had no choice in the matter. What makes it more galling iz dat it happened after YSL scandal. He either couldn't break it off or thot social mores no apply to PAPaya's high and mighty. Whichever it was, he had a chance but dint learn from YSL painful lesson. 
PAPaya got the luxury of saying it was an honest mistake [eg, Tin Pei Ling's minions still posting on FB on cooling off day] and 'moving forward'. For the opp  however, any trangression no matter how trivial will be blown up and brought to the attention of mata and due process.

Hoping for another TPL outcome?   That is your assumption. Please avoid making assumptions and posting them as facts.

But what we do know for a FACT is that your Pritam did not pull RK out of the election, and she also did not withdraw her candidacy.  THAT, you cannot argue with.  And THAT must be what you must have meant by "hoping".

As to the Michael Palmer part, I will not respond to your assay because I have no time to play with words WITH you.  You damn well know what I was saying but if you want to argue like a snake, forget it man...I mean, snake.

[talky]

What happened to that guy whom the MIW says he’s to be investigated after the public complained against him and was withdrawn in the last GE? Till now swept under the carpet?

his name is ivan lim in tharman grc, pm ah heng strongly recommended this is a gd man!!
he is a heartless man risking workers life t sleep on the road outside th co premises
when he elected as mp only unlucky residents of his ward will curse n swear.

[luncheonmeat]

Hoping for another TPL outcome?   That is your assumption. Please avoid making assumptions and posting them as facts.

But what we do know for a FACT is that your Pritam did not pull RK out of the election, and she also did not withdraw her candidacy.  THAT, you cannot argue with.  And THAT must be what you must have meant by "hoping".

As to the Michael Palmer part, I will not respond to your assay because I have no time to play with words WITH you.  You damn well know what I was saying but if you want to argue like a snake, forget it man...I mean, snake.

I forgot you got comprehension problem in the first place or mebbe iz just a reflexive instinct to gabra when grasping at straws. I neber brought up Pritam at all in my post to you, just pointed out dat your memory is not serving you well. Go do a search engine on Ivan Lim's statement to the media.
Think most forummers here can still recall dat the anchor ministars were still 'backing' him [a la Tin Pei Ling] until he himself wised up and withdrew his candidacy. 
He was not pulled out by PAPaya but stepped down himself officially [unless PAPaya was doing a number on him behind the scene] and dat iz the FACT.

[luncheonmeat]

his name is ivan lim in tharman grc, pm ah heng strongly recommended this is a gd man!!
he is a heartless man risking workers life t sleep on the road outside th co premises
when he elected as mp only unlucky residents of his ward will curse n swear.

To be fair Ah Heng was not the one who strongly recommended him, in fact he urged Ivan to clarify himself against the accusations levelled against him in social media. 3 G ministars [even mdm jinx]  were the ones urging public to give chance for him to prove himself.

[talky]

When RK informed that the senior members of WP asked her to keep her lie, she is in effect trying to bring WP to it's knees, and high chance to lose in the next GE..

this is for sure.
she can do  not say that.
make it too obvious to bring down wp w a black heart.