Defeating Germany
Defeating Japan: Operation Downfall
Atomic Bomb dropped by USA straight end Japanese occupation and German surrender too.

(03-04-2023, 06:03 PM)[[ForeverAlone]] Wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gltrQGcLcAU
Defeating Germany
Defeating Japan: Operation Downfall
Atomic Bomb dropped by USA straight end Japanese occupation and German surrender too.
(03-04-2023, 06:54 PM)[[ForeverAlone]] Wrote: But but you all have to accept the Facts is USA.
Without USA drop that atomic bomb , Japanese will not retreat in WW2. Will continue fight till the end.
(03-04-2023, 07:34 PM)cityhantam Wrote: You think too highly of USA liao!
(03-04-2023, 06:54 PM)[[ForeverAlone]] Wrote: But but you all have to accept the Facts is USA.
Without USA drop that atomic bomb , Japanese will not retreat in WW2. Will continue fight till the end.
(03-04-2023, 07:47 PM)sgxin Wrote: This is just US propaganda imo.
After Germany's surrender in Europe, USSR is able to redeploy its huge armies against the Japanese troops in East Asia.
For the battles for the NE Chinese cities (Puyi's Manchuria), the Soviets had poured in 1.6mln troops against a smaller 700k and ill-equipped Japanese troops.
Of these 700K Japs, 600K were captured as POWs and forced into hard labour in Siberia.
Only 30K survived the harsh weather and environment there to return to Jap a few years later.
So without US dropping the nuclear bomb, Russia could have easily island hop from the Kuril onto Hokkaido and then the Japan main island.
Japan will surrender eventually - definitely not beyond 1949 when the Soviets also developed their first nuclear bomb - with half of Japan to USSR.
But US would not want to see that, a north-south Japan like Korea, so the hundreds of thousands of Japanese civilians in Hiroshima and Nagasaki were slaughtered by the US to force a quicker surrender that favours the West. So only Kuril Islands that the Japanese had earlier captured from the China is under Russia's control present day.
(05-04-2023, 03:57 PM)Tee tiong huat Wrote: About 2029 plus plus to 2032.Waiting and have to want a while.
(03-04-2023, 07:47 PM)sgxin Wrote: This is just US propaganda imo.
After Germany's surrender in Europe, USSR is able to redeploy its huge armies against the Japanese troops in East Asia.
For the battles for the NE Chinese cities (Puyi's Manchuria), the Soviets had poured in 1.6mln troops against a smaller 700k and ill-equipped Japanese troops.
Of these 700K Japs, 600K were captured as POWs and forced into hard labour in Siberia.
Only 30K survived the harsh weather and environment there to return to Jap a few years later.
So without US dropping the nuclear bomb, Russia could have easily island hopped from the Kurils onto Hokkaido and then to the Japan main island.
Japan will surrender eventually - definitely not beyond 1949 when the Soviets also developed their first nuclear bomb - with half of Japan to USSR.
But US would not want to see that, a north-south Japan like Korea, so the hundreds of thousands of Japanese civilians in Hiroshima and Nagasaki were slaughtered by the US to force a quicker surrender that favours the West. So only Kuril Islands that the Japanese had earlier captured from the China is under Russia's control present day.
(05-04-2023, 04:35 PM)[[ForeverAlone]] Wrote:but end of the day USA TAKE ACTION FIRST END WW2.