china developers issue lot of usd bond snce 2015 t0 2020
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https://www.zaobao.com.sg/wencui/politic...16-1293348
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#2

similar to indonesia in 1997

https://www.jstor.org/stable/25773625
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#3

us 2008's crisis is subprime it is individual debt crisis

indonesia in 1997 and china now facing corporate debt crisis 2022
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#4

with china property issue of abandon paying housing loan, no money now, global dumping of china banks bond.
no money, now all banks start to hike saving & FD rate super high to get depositors now!
real desperation & panic in china banks today, can foresee, ton of china banks will bankrupt, those big china banks stock will crash  in time to come.




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(20-07-2022, 10:34 AM)kokee Wrote:  with china property issue of abandon paying housing loan, no money now, global dumping of china banks bond.
no money, now all banks start to hike saving & FD rate super high to get depositors now!
real desperation & panic in china banks today, can foresee, ton of china banks will bankrupt, those big china banks stock will crash  in time to come.




全球拋售土共银行債券,吃草時代到了





强制停贷是否演化为中国版次贷危机



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#6

This is not a problem.
In Asian financial crisis the Asian banks and business owe US$ debt. When US$ rise and interest rate goes up, these businesses collapse and banks became insolvent . Hence Asian financial crisis.

The situation in China is serious but not the same.chjna property sector is massive. Most of the borrowing is in Yuan. The banks do not borrow much in US$.

In initial first stage collapse involved highly levered developers with US$ debt. They collapse and cannot refinance. They cannot pay their Yuan debt but these are not that large.Evergrande and Shimao collapse but the fallout did not spread to bank.

The 2nd stage is fall in property price causing all developer bonds to fall including Yuan denominated loans. Blue chip Vanke debt fall to 70cts from $1.
Also more bad debts due to mortgage default

This stage the China govt has many options. Since debt is in Yuan they can just use their bad debt bank Hua Long to buy up all the bad debts and this ends the crisis instantly. If the Chinese govt let it drag on it is to scare the bank and the developers ...but jn the end the will always step jn to print $$ to bail out.

In Asian crisis the Indo and Thai govt were all having high debt in US$...the business and banks also had US$ debt...all die as last resort lender is WHO/IMF and they never step in until after you crash.

China is different. China debt is mostly in Yuan. There is no crisis because the govt can always print.

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TS can see the difference.
Since the debts are mostly in Yuan, the Chinese central bank can print money to settle. If the debts are in Usd then Us is controlling. China can't print.
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(09-04-2022, 05:50 PM)kokee Wrote:  china total debt to GDP, including both internal & external debt, govt & private debt, easily 700-800% of GDP.
china foreign reserved is still US$3T> my foot, with recent sanction, pull out factories & investment, plus all the USD debt, china actual reserved is negative now.
all these know but comie dogs here, especially niubee, real moron, let see how he reply my this post, LOL LOL.




中国外汇储备扣除历年外商投资本金和盈利,不但不是官方说的顺差三万亿,反而是负债两万六七千亿美元,已经资不抵债




all these know nut comie jokers.
Ton of china debt is in USD, especially property developers like evergrande & all the rest big developers.
such USD debt easily US$2-3 trillions!

all these know nut moronic comie dogs bark from ass without data or fact, norm.
with USD so strong now, plus US high interest, best time to hold US debt & treasuary yet china dump left below $1 trillion, huge lost on those sold out earlier!
now china heavily short of USD, that is why many china company default their USD bond, same to russia today, default bond & bankrupt.
as above, china reserved today is negative, huge negative. China UST bond value minus foreign investment minus china USD debt globally, easily negative US$3 trillion or more, sibei jialat liao, that is why china cant follow US to hike rate, china debt burst on the way!

china now banks run, banks has no money, most home buyer abandon housing loan, developers, material suppliers & construction company all abandon banks loan, china banks bankrupt huge way on the way, china financial crisis is not far off, plus covid lock down, jobless surges to sky, almost all factories move out of china, htis yr deficit of $6 trillion, total debt burst is happening in china today!!
all these comie liars here!!
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#9

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#10

4 straight day of dow jone index corrections since last week , sg bill jump to 2.9% on theurday
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#11

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/budget-surplus.asp
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#13

https://www.reuters.com/business/buffett...022-08-30/

like in 2007

https://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=3664464&page=1

petrochina share plunge for 10 years until 2022
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#14

investors do not use their hard earned money to do national service for any country
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#15

like what we put for our retirement,this money is not for national services
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#16

1/9/2022 keppel corp $7.35 at noon closed
https://www.straitstimes.com/business/co...hare-offer
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#17

(20-07-2022, 06:45 PM)Bigbluedot Wrote:  TS can see the difference.
Since the debts are mostly in Yuan, the Chinese central bank can print money to settle.  If the debts are in Usd then Us is controlling. China can't print.

There is always a price for excessive money printing..


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#18

recycling of keppel assets-ESG

https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/compani...cash-offer

https://www.propertyguru.com.sg/property...eppel-land

https://www.portcalls.com/sarawak%E2%80%...andards-2/
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#19

already a recycling giant from 2010 into 2022
https://www.keppeltt.com.sg/news-item.aspx?sid=42&aid=6269&title=keppel-corporation-in-collaboration-with-singapore-nbsp-press-holdings-seeks-majority-control-of-m1-in-strategic-initiative-to-drive-6269
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#20

https://www.rigzone.com/news/oil_gas/a/1...chi_zosen/
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#21

https://www.upi.com/Archives/2001/10/09/...002600000/
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#22

the new entity may be call saint-capital marine
https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/compani...its-sights
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#23

https://www.straitstimes.com/business/co...velopments
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#24

20 years history of investing in under performing company share
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#25

https://www.sohu.com/a/156940598_692690
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#26

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV16t411L7H6
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#27

after the divestment of keppel bank in 2001
https://images.app.goo.gl/EBwx7EUHMUWGxhd49
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#28

will this stocks fall when FED keep hiking interest rates?
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#29

will this stocks stubbornly stay at such high leven even Powell aggressively raise his rates to beat inflation
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