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(27-07-2021, 06:37 AM)winbig Wrote: (26-07-2021, 11:57 PM)Tangsen Wrote: Well, it depends on how things are perceived ..... if non jabbed are endangering others as well as preventing people and biz from trying to go back to normal ....
Is this discrimination or a nusiance to society?
Can those unjabbed endanger those already jabbed?
Yes, because unjabbed will get seriously ill and thus waste medical resources and $$$ when it's preventable. Medical resources and $$$ can be put for other important use for everyone instead of trying and save those unwilling to jab.
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(27-07-2021, 06:15 AM)RichDad Wrote: (27-07-2021, 01:11 AM)gottogo Wrote: Vaccination does not stop you from infecting others. It also does not stop you from getting infected. So how does the non-vaccinated
endanger others?
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It is not about non vacc endangering others. It is about the non vacc getting infected and needing hospital resources. That's their main argument.
Gahmen is placing all hopes on vaccination to prevent overloading the health care system, don't care what side effects. As long as overall benefits outweigh risks (for the country), they will pursue this.
It is a very difficult and touchy policy that even ang moh gahmens are introducing. For ang moh, this is a violation of their rights. Here, probably all toe the line.
Wait for Sinovac or Novavax to be approved (for people who don't want mRNA), no choice liao.
I think once the mRNA & non mRNA vaccines are officially approved, they will make vacc compulsory. For now, they don't dare so chut pattern first ![Angry Angry](https://sgtalk.net/images/smilies/angry.png)
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Bottomline .... it's best for some to die than all to die ....
It is what it is.
We are just a single digit in the whole millions and billions equation
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(27-07-2021, 11:59 AM)gottogo Wrote: (27-07-2021, 08:48 AM)OLT Wrote: non vaccinated, when infected, has higher viral load and can spread to more pple when infected.
I have not seen such a report. Can you provide a link?
u shd be able to google it. it's everywhere. i just give u 1 here.
https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/699576
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(27-07-2021, 01:57 PM)OLT Wrote: (27-07-2021, 11:59 AM)gottogo Wrote: I have not seen such a report. Can you provide a link?
u shd be able to google it. it's everywhere. i just give u 1 here.
https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/699576
Then how to explain this local data:
Figure 3: Local Cases in the Last 14 Days by Age Group and Vaccination Status
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(27-07-2021, 02:28 PM)gottogo Wrote: (27-07-2021, 01:57 PM)OLT Wrote: u shd be able to google it. it's everywhere. i just give u 1 here.
https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/699576
Then how to explain this local data:
![[Image: figure03_21jul.png?sfvrsn=9ea67c1f_0]](https://www.moh.gov.sg/images/librariesprovider5/covid-19-chart-(pr)/figure03_21jul.png?sfvrsn=9ea67c1f_0)
b4 u ask me anything,
do u agree that
1) unvaccinated has higher viral load den vaccinated
2) higher viral load means can spread the virus easier.
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(27-07-2021, 02:36 PM)OLT Wrote: (27-07-2021, 02:28 PM)gottogo Wrote: Then how to explain this local data:
![[Image: figure03_21jul.png?sfvrsn=9ea67c1f_0]](https://www.moh.gov.sg/images/librariesprovider5/covid-19-chart-(pr)/figure03_21jul.png?sfvrsn=9ea67c1f_0)
b4 u ask me anything,
do u agree that
1) unvaccinated has higher viral load den vaccinated
2) higher viral load means can spread the virus easier.
There are many reports and no one can tell which one is definitive until the dusts have settled
maybe one or more years later. At the moment I take all reports with a big pinch of salt.
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(27-07-2021, 02:40 PM)gottogo Wrote: (27-07-2021, 02:36 PM)OLT Wrote: b4 u ask me anything,
do u agree that
1) unvaccinated has higher viral load den vaccinated
2) higher viral load means can spread the virus easier.
There are many reports and no one can tell which one is definitive until the dusts have settled
maybe one or more years later. At the moment I take all reports with a big pinch of salt.
if u are talking about 2 conflicting reports, and as a layman u dunno wat to believe, i can understand u choose wait for sometimes for a clearer picture.
but now, u have tonnes of articles out there saying the same things, and u cannot find any to refute it, and u choose not to believe.... den i duno wat to say.
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(26-07-2021, 11:53 PM)happyharvest Wrote: (26-07-2021, 11:37 PM)Reallymeh Wrote: Does that mean unvaccinated persons cannot eat out at food places? This discrimination is just not right.
only tabao.. wait till they say unvax cannot go inside mall ... need enough voice to stamp their tyranny behaviour
Young or old...
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Bo chap seow...dead or alive n or on wheelchair. Chinhu TP is 80% to be
Vaccinated. "Obedient local peoples follow rules and regulation end up punished not allow dine out."
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(27-07-2021, 02:48 PM)OLT Wrote: (27-07-2021, 02:40 PM)gottogo Wrote: There are many reports and no one can tell which one is definitive until the dusts have settled
maybe one or more years later. At the moment I take all reports with a big pinch of salt.
if u are talking about 2 conflicting reports, and as a layman u dunno wat to believe, i can understand u choose wait for sometimes for a clearer picture.
but now, u have tonnes of articles out there saying the same things, and u cannot find any to refute it, and u choose not to believe.... den i duno wat to say.
Obamao got tonnes of article to refute but unfortunately he not around or dun want post.....
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(27-07-2021, 02:53 PM)Huliwang Wrote: (27-07-2021, 02:48 PM)OLT Wrote: if u are talking about 2 conflicting reports, and as a layman u dunno wat to believe, i can understand u choose wait for sometimes for a clearer picture.
but now, u have tonnes of articles out there saying the same things, and u cannot find any to refute it, and u choose not to believe.... den i duno wat to say.
Obamao got tonnes of article to refute but unfortunately he not around or dun want post..... ![Rolleyes Rolleyes](https://sgtalk.net/images/smilies/rolleyes.png)
of course he got alot of fake news to post.
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(27-07-2021, 03:06 PM)Huliwang Wrote: (27-07-2021, 02:58 PM)OLT Wrote: of course he got alot of fake news to post.
![Rotfl Rotfl](https://sgtalk.net/images/smilies/Animated/rotl_s.gif)
He also got Singlion supporting him posting plenty articles confirming ill-effect of the vaccine. Unfortunately Singlion also MIA......... ![Rotfl Rotfl](https://sgtalk.net/images/smilies/Animated/rotl_s.gif)
Canada very funny, vaccinated users were banned from entering.
Reason? People who've received Covid-19 shot could "shed" virus to others and cause harm, according to some store's owner.
Let's get matter straight: COVID-19 vaccines do come with a list of potential side effects.
https://www.health.com/condition/infecti...ding-covid
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(27-07-2021, 03:06 PM)Huliwang Wrote: (27-07-2021, 02:58 PM)OLT Wrote: of course he got alot of fake news to post.
![Rotfl Rotfl](https://sgtalk.net/images/smilies/Animated/rotl_s.gif)
He also got Singlion supporting him posting plenty articles confirming ill-effect of the vaccine. Unfortunately Singlion also MIA......... ![Rotfl Rotfl](https://sgtalk.net/images/smilies/Animated/rotl_s.gif)
They can form a conspiracy theory club lor.
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Who let in n lead virus in by the fishery port?. Who?.. Who?.
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(27-07-2021, 03:32 PM)Teeth53 Wrote: Who let in n lead virus in by the fishery port?. Who?.. Who?.
if u have been eating fish, den u are partly responsible for the virus to come in.
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