[Goldmine]

Vaccination does put u at risk of heart attack if your body do not react well with the vaccine. If you have underlying medical history of heart related problems u run the risk of a severe adverse reaction. The vaccine seems to react negatively on the vascular system.  If u have heart issues think carefully before u decide to take the jab. Your remaining life may be cut short suddenly if a heart attack is triggered. My personal opinion as a layman.

as a layman, i dunno where u get this info "Vaccination does put u at risk of heart attack"

Were there not reports surfacing that were posted in this forum and other forum that people landed in hospital due to cardiac arrest after jab?

[OLT]

as a layman, i dunno where u get this info "Vaccination does put u at risk of heart attack"

Were there not reports surfacing that were posted in this forum and other forum that people landed in hospital due to cardiac arrest after jab?

i tink u might have missed the later report that the cardic arrest is unrelated to the vaccine.

[Huliwang]

OK, mai kia, I think the plot of the story is now changed to more effectively convince those stubborn anti-vax diehards to go for vaccination.
Now the new story plot is those vaccinated can still be infected but the infection is not severe at all. At most you probably feel a slight headache like a common cold and treated as outpatients where hospitalisation is not needed. Data has shown that out of 100 vaccinated people infected only 14 needed hospitalisations.
For those did not vaccinate the risk of hospitalisation and severe symptom is almost 100 percent..........


COVID: Don’t focus too much on infection numbers, says health minister
https://www.msn.com/en-sg/news/singapore/covid-don-t-focus-too-much-on-infection-numbers-says-health-minister/ar-AAMz75U?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531

[gottogo]

Vaccination does not stop you from infecting others. It also does not stop you from getting infected.  So how does the non-vaccinated
endanger others?  

non vaccinated, when infected, has higher viral load and can spread to more pple when infected.

I have not seen such a report. Can you provide a link?

[Notdumb]

Aiyah by next week can dine in again lah. Ministers all kena fark by businesses liao.

[Tangsen]

The nurse who got vaccinated and wear mask also kana covid, so what is the point go for vaccine?

Ask him lor


‘I advise everyone to get it’: Covid patients tell of regrets over refusing jab

https://sg.yahoo.com/news/advise-everyon...26470.html

[Tangsen]

non vaccinated, when infected, has higher viral load and can spread to more pple when infected.

I have not seen such a report. Can you provide a link?

Suddenly SGtalk full of PHD and professors in genome and medical researchers ... so impressed   

[Huliwang]

I have not seen such a report. Can you provide a link?

Suddenly SGtalk full of PHD and professors in genome and medical researchers ... so impressed   

They bluffing each other lah. Blind leading the blind.......

[Tangsen]

Well, if shiteland CECA too far .... maybe asked Muddyisa Boleh .... many rushing for jab .... any jab
It's ok ... you can treat it as fake news while the world moves on ....  

waiting for all vax to have a big party around the world.. interesting case study next

https://sg.yahoo.com/news/not-hoax-famil...18892.html

[Tangsen]

Suddenly SGtalk full of PHD and professors in genome and medical researchers ... so impressed   

They bluffing each other lah. Blind leading the blind.......

They did much research during the pass few months .... they signed up the fast track PHD programme lah

[Tangsen]

Well, it depends on how things are perceived ..... if non jabbed are endangering others as well as preventing people and biz from trying to go back to normal ....
Is this discrimination or a nusiance to society?

Vaccination does not stop you from infecting others. It also does not stop you from getting infected.  So how does the non-vaccinated
endanger others?  

Simple actually, their intention is NOT to strained the medical system and COST $$$ to keep people alive. Especially those elderly who are economically non-productive. Covid can never be immunized like the common flu thus jab is to reduce the illness where you can rest and recovery at home. Like my peer and his family in JKT. Whole family jabbed and got infected, all resting at home.

If you get infected, especially the unjabbed elderly sure kenna ICU ... if quick death ok but kenna ICU for months ..... waste of proper resource.

[gottogo]

I have not seen such a report. Can you provide a link?

Suddenly SGtalk full of PHD and professors in genome and medical researchers ... so impressed   

I am impressed also. Never heard of such a thing.

[Tangsen]

Well, it depends on how things are perceived ..... if non jabbed are endangering others as well as preventing people and biz from trying to go back to normal ....
Is this discrimination or a nusiance to society?

Can those unjabbed endanger those already jabbed?

Yes, because unjabbed will get seriously ill and thus waste medical resources and $$$ when it's preventable. Medical resources and $$$ can be put for other important use for everyone instead of trying and save those unwilling to jab.

[babygirl]

Well, it depends on how things are perceived ..... if non jabbed are endangering others as well as preventing people and biz from trying to go back to normal ....
Is this discrimination or a nusiance to society?

Vaccination does not stop you from infecting others. It also does not stop you from getting infected.  So how does the non-vaccinated
endanger others?  

[babygirl]

Vaccination does not stop you from infecting others. It also does not stop you from getting infected.  So how does the non-vaccinated
endanger others?  

It is not about non vacc endangering others. It is about the non vacc getting infected and needing hospital resources.  That's their main argument. 

Gahmen is placing all hopes on vaccination to prevent overloading the health care system, don't care what side effects. As long as overall benefits outweigh risks (for the country), they will pursue this.

It is a very difficult and touchy policy that even ang moh gahmens are introducing. For ang moh, this is a violation of their rights. Here, probably all toe the line.

Wait for Sinovac or Novavax to be approved (for people who don't want mRNA), no choice liao.

I think once the mRNA & non mRNA vaccines  are officially approved, they will make vacc compulsory. For now, they don't dare so chut pattern first 

[babygirl]

Vaccination does not stop you from infecting others. It also does not stop you from getting infected.  So how does the non-vaccinated
endanger others?  

Vaccination does put u at risk of heart attack if your body do not react well with the vaccine. If you have underlying medical history of heart related problems u run the risk of a severe adverse reaction. The vaccine seems to react negatively on the vascular system.  If u have heart issues think carefully before u decide to take the jab. Your remaining life may be cut short suddenly if a heart attack is triggered. My personal opinion as a layman.

[Tangsen]

Bottomline .... it's best for some to die than all to die ....
It is what it is.
We are just a single digit in the whole millions and billions equation

[OLT]

non vaccinated, when infected, has higher viral load and can spread to more pple when infected.

I have not seen such a report. Can you provide a link?

u shd be able to google it.  it's everywhere.  i just give u 1 here.

https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/699576

[gottogo]

I have not seen such a report. Can you provide a link?

u shd be able to google it.  it's everywhere.  i just give u 1 here.

https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/699576

Then how to explain this local data:

Figure 3: Local Cases in the Last 14 Days by Age Group and Vaccination Status

[OLT]

u shd be able to google it.  it's everywhere.  i just give u 1 here.

https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/699576

Then how to explain this local data:

b4 u ask me anything,

do u agree that 

1) unvaccinated has higher viral load den vaccinated 
2) higher viral load means can spread the virus easier.

[gottogo]

Then how to explain this local data:

b4 u ask me anything,

do u agree that 

1) unvaccinated has higher viral load den vaccinated 
2) higher viral load means can spread the virus easier.

There are many reports and no one can tell which one is definitive until the dusts have settled

maybe one or more years later. At the moment I take all reports with a big pinch of salt.

[OLT]

b4 u ask me anything,

do u agree that 

1) unvaccinated has higher viral load den vaccinated 
2) higher viral load means can spread the virus easier.

There are many reports and no one can tell which one is definitive until the dusts have settled

maybe one or more years later. At the moment I take all reports with a big pinch of salt.

if u are talking about 2 conflicting reports, and as a layman u dunno wat to believe, i can understand u choose wait for sometimes for a clearer picture.

but now, u have tonnes of articles out there saying the same things, and u cannot find any to refute it, and u choose not to believe.... den i duno wat to say.

[Teeth53]

Does that mean unvaccinated persons cannot eat out at food places? This discrimination is just not right.

only tabao.. wait till they say unvax cannot go inside mall ... need enough voice to stamp their tyranny behaviour

Young or old... Bo chap seow...dead or alive n or on wheelchair. Chinhu TP is 80% to be
Vaccinated. "Obedient local peoples follow rules and regulation end up punished not allow dine out."

[Huliwang]

There are many reports and no one can tell which one is definitive until the dusts have settled

maybe one or more years later. At the moment I take all reports with a big pinch of salt.

if u are talking about 2 conflicting reports, and as a layman u dunno wat to believe, i can understand u choose wait for sometimes for a clearer picture.

but now, u have tonnes of articles out there saying the same things, and u cannot find any to refute it, and u choose not to believe.... den i duno wat to say.

Obamao got tonnes of article to refute but unfortunately he not around or dun want post.....

[OLT]

if u are talking about 2 conflicting reports, and as a layman u dunno wat to believe, i can understand u choose wait for sometimes for a clearer picture.

but now, u have tonnes of articles out there saying the same things, and u cannot find any to refute it, and u choose not to believe.... den i duno wat to say.

Obamao got tonnes of article to refute but unfortunately he not around or dun want post.....

of course he got alot of fake news to post.

[Huliwang]

Obamao got tonnes of article to refute but unfortunately he not around or dun want post.....

of course he got alot of fake news to post.

He also got Singlion supporting him posting plenty articles confirming ill-effect of the vaccine. Unfortunately Singlion also MIA.........

[Teeth53]

of course he got alot of fake news to post.

He also got Singlion supporting him posting plenty articles confirming ill-effect of the vaccine. Unfortunately Singlion also MIA.........

Canada very funny, vaccinated users were banned from entering. Reason? People who've received Covid-19 shot could "shed" virus to others and cause harm, according to some store's owner.

Let's get matter straight: COVID-19 vaccines do come with a list of potential side effects.

https://www.health.com/condition/infecti...ding-covid

[OLT]

of course he got alot of fake news to post.

He also got Singlion supporting him posting plenty articles confirming ill-effect of the vaccine. Unfortunately Singlion also MIA.........

They can form a conspiracy theory club lor.

[Teeth53]

Who let in n lead virus in by the fishery port?. Who?.. Who?.

[OLT]

Who let in n lead virus in by the fishery port?. Who?.. Who?.

if u have been eating fish, den u are partly responsible for the virus to come in.