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Your God also understand because He created Adam first then Eve 

There is only one creator.

What is the reason as per Christianity?

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Same for Islam...in some islamic countries, homosexual is punishable by death and in some Islamic countries..it is not a crime! Why the double standards? What does Allah says?

Quran didn’t not mention any punishment.

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There is only one creator.

What is the reason as per Christianity?

But in Islam, there are two Creators...Jesus creates life through clay!

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Quran didn’t not mention any punishment.

So homosexual is only a sin but not a crime.

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But in Islam, there are two Creators...Jesus creates life through clay!

Creator means the creator of this universe.

Jesus didn’t create anything. He did miracles with the permission of Allah to convince the Israelites.
How ever we don’t believe your bible mentioned miracles of walking on the water and sharing 2 fish with 10000 people.

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So homosexual is only a sin but not a crime.

Punishment driven from Hadith

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Creator means the creator of this universe.

Jesus didn’t create anything. He did miracles with the permission of Allah to convince the Israelites.
How ever we don’t believe your bible mentioned miracles of walking on the water and sharing 2 fish with 10000 people.

We also don believe that Muhammad met Jesus during the night journey 

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Quran didn’t not mention any punishment.

Every religion also have gays...even they have the rights to practise their faiths tiok boh..

But are they going to Jannah? I don know what your book says!

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all muslim LGBT can be beheaded in muslim country
it is their laws

dont believe you can ask the KSA Saudi Arabia

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That is why Quran says that Saboor, Taurat, Injeel have been altered.

Here is the long read bro


Muslims Say That the Bible Has Been Corrupted, but the Quran and Muslim Scholars Say Otherwise

Muslims assert that the Bible's text has been corrupted, because if the Bible has not been corrupted, then their Quran is proven false due to making claims that contradict the Bible (e.g. that one of Noah's sons died in the flood source; that Jesus was not crucified but that Allah only made him appear to be so and raised him up to heaven source; that God Himself leads people astray source; etc).

However, the Quran tells Muhammad/ readers of the Quran to ask the People of the Book [the Bible] to affirm its contents, such as its accounts of events pertaining to Noah, Moses and Pharaoh, etc (Surah 10:71 - 10:95). It does this because the People of the Book have the original book in which these events were recorded. I have quoted the specific verses in which the Quran suggests that Muhammad/ its readers do this below; however, if you want the full context in which it provides its accounts of Noah, Moses, and Pharaoh, read Surah 10:71 to 10:93 here.

Surah 10:94-95. “If thou wert in doubt as to what We have revealed unto thee, THEN ASK THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN READING THE BOOK FROM BEFORE THEE: the Truth hath indeed come to thee from thy Lord: so be in no wise of those in doubt. And be not thou of those who deny the revelations of Allah, for then wert thou of the losboom.

The Quran also implies in the following passages that the Bible has NOT been corrupted.

Sura 7:156-157. ˹They are˺ the ones who follow the Messenger [Muhammad], the unlettered Prophet, WHOSE DESCRIPTION THEY FIND IN THEIR TORAH AND GOSPEL.

If the Bible had been corrupted when this verse was "revealed," then why would Allah state that it can be relied upon as prophesying Muhammad's "prophethood"? Obviously, in the mind of whoever wrote this verse, the Bible had not been corrupted when they wrote it; also, the Bible that existed then (the manuscripts) exists now, which means that the Bible has still not been corrupted.

Surah 5:46-47. Then in the footsteps of the prophets, We sent Jesus, son of Mary, confirming the Torah revealed before him. And We gave him the Gospel containing guidance and light and confirming what was revealed in the Torah—a guide and a lesson to the God-fearing. SO LET THE PEOPLE OF THE GOSPEL JUDGE BY WHAT ALLAH HAS REVEALED IN IT. And those who do not judge by what Allah has revealed are ˹truly˺ the rebellious.

This passage speaks in present tense, which means that it is referring to the Christians of the time in which it was "revealed." Once again, if the Bible had been corrupted at that time, then commanding that Christians judge according to what Allah had supposedly revealed in the Gospel would not make sense.

The Quran also states that both the Jews and Christians had the wrong opinions about each other and that they should not have had such opinions since they both had "the book"; in other words, the Quran states that since each group had "the book," they should have had the right opinion about each other. This passage does not make sense if "the book" had been corrupted during the time that the Quran was "revealed."

Sura 2:113. "The Jews say, The Christians are not (founded) upon anything.' And the Christians say,The Jews are not (founded) upon anything.' And yet THEY READ THE BOOK."

Here are more passages that convey the same idea (i.e. that the Bible had not been corrupted during the time period that the Quran was "revealed").

Sura 5:71. "Say, O People of the Book! You are not (founded) on anything UNTIL you PERFORM the TORAH and the GOSPEL, and what was revealed to you from your Lord."

Sura 3:93-94. "All food was lawful to the children of Israel except what Israel made unlawful for itself before the Torah was revealed. Say, `BRING the TORAH and READ it, if you are men of truth.' If any, after this, invent a lie and attribute it to God, they are indeed transgressors."

Some Muslims claim that the Torah and Gospel to which the Quran refers are not the ones that Jews and Christians use today but are other books that were the actual, original Torah and Gospel. However, it is a historical fact that the Torah and Gospel that Jews and Christians of the time during which the Quran was "revealed" were the Masorectic Text and the Four canonical Gospels that Jews and Christians use today.

Furthermore, there are hadiths that quote from the Torah, thus confirming that the Torah to which the Quran refers is that which is used today. By the way, keep in mind that when the Quran says "Torah," it's referring to the entire Old Testament.

*Mishkat al-Masabih, Book XXVI, Ch. XVIII, pp. 1232, 1233 and ch. XIX, p. 1244.

Ata b. Yasar told that he met Abdallah b.Amr b. al-As and asked him to inform him of the description of God's messenger given in the Torah. He agreed, swearing by God that he was certainly described in the Torah by part of the description of him given in the Qur'an when it says, "O prophet, We have sent you as a witness, a bearer of good tidings, and a warner, and a guard for the common people." (From Al-Ahzab 33:45 up to here. The following is from the Torah-Old Testament, Isaiah 42:1-3,6-7.) "You are my servant and my messenger; I have called you the one who trusts, not harsh or rough, nor loud-voiced in the streets. He will not repulse evil with evil, but will pardon and forgive, and God will not take him till He uses him to straighten the crooked creed so that people may say there is no god but God, and he opens thereby blind eyes, deaf ears and hardened hearts. Bukhari transmitted it, and Darimi also gives something to the same effect on the authority of `Ata who gave as his authority Ibn Salam.

There's also the following hadith in which Muhammad himself is described as stating his belief in the Torah available in his time.

Kitab al-Hudud, i.e., Prescribed Punishments), No. 4434: Narrated Abdullah Ibn Umar: A group of Jews came and invited the Apostle of Allah (peace-be-upon-him) to Quff. So he visited them in their school. They said: Abul Qasim, one of our men has committed fornication with a woman; so pronounce judgement upon them. They placed a cushion for the Apostle of Allah (peace-be-upon-him) who sat on it and said: Bring the Torah. It was then brought. He then withdrew the cushion from beneath him and placed the Torah on it saying: I believed in thee and in Him who revealed thee. He then said: Bring me one who is learned among you. Then a young man was brought. The transmitter then mentioned the rest of the tradition of stoning similar to the one transmitted by Malik from Nafi' (see also No. 4431).

As for the Gospels, consider the words of the following Muslim scholars:

"Ibn Mazar and Ibn Hatim state, in the commentary known as the Tafsir Durr-I-Mansur, that they have it on the authority of Ibn Muniyah, that the Taurat (i.e. the books of Moses), and the Injil (i.e. the Gospels), are in the same state of purity in which they were sent down from heaven, and that no alterations had been made in them, but that the Jews were wont to deceive the people by unsound arguments, and by wresting the sense of Scripture... Shah Waliyu Illah, in his commentary, the Fauzull-Kabir, and also Ibn `Abbas, support the same view." (T. P. Hughes, p. 62)

"Ibn Kathir in his book Al-Bidaya wa al-Nihaya quotes Muhammad saying about the Jews and Christians: 'David died in the midst of his friends. They were not led astray, nor changed [their books]. The Friends of Christ stayed in His ordinances and guidance for two hundred years' (proved by Ibn Hibban). It is well-known that we have copies of the New Testament that go back to the fourth century A.D. These are in harmony with the books as they are today." (True Guidance, p. 179)

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I hope Muslims don't have the mentality that the Quran is the supreme authority over the previous scriptures. In reality, the Torah and the Gospel serve as references to verify the truth of the Quran, rather than the other way around....

If the Torah and Gospel were good during Muhammad's time....then why can't we find his name Ahmed mentioned in them?

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