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(04-08-2024, 12:02 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]Where got?
Islam started by your Muh, 500 plus years later

God has his own wisdom and why does things .It is not for us to question God wisdom out of criticism why he took 500 plus years to send prophet Muhammad and Quran.we are not in a position to explain behalf of him.
During these years , There were two major waring civilisations ,The Roman and Persian.Had a prophet risen among them, They would most likely have been killed or persecuted like did to Jesus.If that happened, his message would not have a large impact.
We must know God give many
Chances to humanity before he damn them.
Abraham, Moses, David, Solomon came hundreds ,thousands years before Jesus.Does this the same reason Jews didn’t want to accept Jesus?

Quran 5:48”We have revealed to you ˹O Prophet˺ this Book with the truth, as a confirmation of previous Scriptures and a supreme authority on them. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and do not follow their desires over the truth that has come to you. To each of you We have ordained a code of law and a way of life. If Allah had willed, He would have made you one community, but His Will is to test you with what He has given ˹each of˺ you. So compete with one another in doing good. To Allah you will all return, then He will inform you ˹of the truth˺ regarding your differences.”
(04-08-2024, 11:13 AM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]God has his own wisdom and why does things .It is not for us to question God wisdom out of criticism why he took 500 plus years to send prophet Muhammad and Quran.we are not in a position to explain behalf of him.
During these years , There were two major warnings civilisations ,The Roman and Persian.Had a prophet risen among them, They would most likely have been killed or persecuted like did to Jesus.If that happened, his message would not have a large impact.
We must know God give many
Chances to humanity before he damn them.
Abraham, Moses, David, Solomon came hundreds ,thousands years before Jesus.Does this the same reason Jews didn’t want to accept Jesus?

Quran 5:48”We have revealed to you ˹O Prophet˺ this Book with the truth, as a confirmation of previous Scriptures and a supreme authority on them. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and do not follow their desires over the truth that has come to you. To each of you We have ordained a code of law and a way of life. If Allah had willed, He would have made you one community, but His Will is to test you with what He has given ˹each of˺ you. So compete with one another in doing good. To Allah you will all return, then He will inform you ˹of the truth˺ regarding your differences.”

“And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. All these are the beginning of sorrows. Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭24‬:‭4‬-‭14‬ ‭KJV
(03-08-2024, 09:57 PM)singaporean1964 Wrote: [ -> ]king charles is a moslem...

The Prophet (peace and blessings be him) said in a Qudsi Hadith, “Allah Almighty says, ‘I created all My servants hunafa’ (i.e. following the original religion of monotheism), then the devils misled them from their religion and forbade them from what I made lawful for them and commanded them to associate with Me that which I have not sent down any authority for.” (Muslim)


The Prophet (peace and blessings be him) also said, “Every child is born with the fitrah, but his parents make him a Jew, Christian or a Zoroastrian.” (Al-Bukhari and Muslim)
(04-08-2024, 11:08 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]Submit to the will of God u said
Why many countries see Islam as a threat to them ?

Don't conflate the political landscape of today's world with our faith.
(04-08-2024, 11:08 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]Submit to the will of God u said
Why many countries see Islam as a threat to them ?

Because it May change their lifestyle 

From nakedness to fully covering 
No Drugs ,Alcohol ,partying
No pork, dog, insects ,reptiles meat
No interest bearing business 
No porn
No red light area 
No promiscuity 
No stealing, Robbery 
No fraudulent activity 
No fraudulent business 
Cannot abondon old parents or disabled
Can not abort fetus
No Homosexual


People would run behind God instead of Money and worldly affairs
(04-08-2024, 11:08 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]Submit to the will of God u said

Yes, submit to God's will. 

Do you know that we Muslims say "Inshaallah" often? That is a manifestation of our submission to God's will. We think we will wake up tomorrow morning but we know we may not. We submit to whatever our Creator wills. That's why we say "Inshaallah" which means "If Allah wills".

Do you know that this practice is taught by James? Read below and you will see how similar our religion is to the religion of James. Who taught him his religion? Jesus, the Messiah pbuh. James 4.  

Now listen, you who say, “Today or tomorrow we will go to this or that city, spend a year there, carry on business and make money.” Why, you do not even know what will happen tomorrow. What is your life? You are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes. Instead, you ought to say, “If it is the Lord’s will, we will live and do this or that.” - James 4. As you can see clearly, James taught his people to say "Inshaallah".
(04-08-2024, 10:43 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Prophet Muhammad was a prophet like Prophet Moses, a law bringer. Peace and blessings be upon them. The 5 daily Solah is a new law that came with Prophet Muhammad. 

The Jews also have a similar law, the 3 daily prayer service. 

Islam is also a state of mind. The best of us are those who are constantly in a state of submission, even as we go on with our daily lives. But this topic is esoteric so its not easy to explain using a few words here.


Quran 33:41 -45”O believers! Always remember Allah often,

and glorify Him morning and evening.

He is the One Who showers His blessings upon you—and His angels pray for you—so that He may bring you out of darkness and into light. For He is ever Merciful to the believers.

Their greeting on the Day they meet Him will be, “Peace!” And He has prepared for them an honourable reward.

O Prophet! We have sent you as a witness, and a deliverer of good news, and a warner,
(04-08-2024, 11:42 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Yes, submit to God's will. 

Do you know that we Muslims say "Inshaallah" often? That is a manifestation of our submission to God's will. We think we will wake up tomorrow morning but we know we may not. We submit to whatever our Creator wills. That's why we say "Inshaallah" which means "If Allah wills".

Do you know that this practice is taught by James? Read below and you will see how similar our religion is to the religion of James. Who taught him his religion? Jesus, the Messiah pbuh. James 4.  

Now listen, you who say, “Today or tomorrow we will go to this or that city, spend a year there, carry on business and make money.” Why, you do not even know what will happen tomorrow. What is your life? You are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes. Instead, you ought to say, “If it is the Lord’s will, we will live and do this or that.” - James 4. As you can see clearly, James taught his people to say "Inshaallah".

If same teachings, today there will be no hamas n Israel war.
Both will live happily under one God.
Pbuh is a normal greetings nothing is connected in both faith 
Why the 5 Moslems beat up the Chinese woman who was alone isn’t this called bully the weak?
U ever saw Christians do that? I mean in Singapore
(04-08-2024, 11:38 AM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]Because it May change their lifestyle 

From nakedness to fully covering 
No Drugs ,Alcohol ,partying
No pork, dog, insects ,reptiles meat
No interest bearing business 
No porn
No red light area 
No promiscuity 
No stealing, Robbery 
No fraudulent activity 
No fraudulent business 
Cannot abondon old parents or disabled
Can not abort fetus
No Homosexual


People would run behind God instead of Money and worldly affairs
U mean only u moslem very holy n pure 
While the Christians are bad eggs?

How you spewed vulgarities against Jesus u forgot ?
(04-08-2024, 12:50 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]If same teachings, today there will be no hamas n Israel war.
Both will live happily under one God.
Pbuh is a normal greetings nothing is connected in both faith 
Why the 5 Moslems beat up the Chinese woman who was alone isn’t this called bully the weak?
U ever saw Christians do that? I mean in Singapore

We are discussing the teachings of the prophets. What I'm showing you is the similarity of their teachings. James was taught by Jesus pbuh. What James practice, saying "if God wills", is the same practice I follow. 

If 5 Muslims beat up 1 Chinese woman, I say we catch them and bring them to justice. But that doesn't mean Islam is wrong.
(04-08-2024, 12:59 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]U mean only u moslem very holy n pure 
While the Christians are bad eggs?

How you spewed vulgarities against Jesus u forgot ?

There are 3 more vulgar Christians here and I never see you say something against their vulgarity.
(04-08-2024, 01:08 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]There are 3 more vulgar Christians here and I never see you say something against their vulgarity.
They didn’t mock our faith n Jesus like u hope do ma
(04-08-2024, 01:06 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]We are discussing the teachings of the prophets. What I'm showing you is the similarity of their teachings. James was taught by Jesus pbuh. What James practice, saying "if God wills", is the same practice I follow. 

If 5 Muslims beat up 1 Chinese woman, I say we catch them and bring them to justice. But that doesn't mean Islam is wrong.
I didn’t say about your Islam it’s your people ma
(03-08-2024, 02:10 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]We follow God hor...you follow a dead Muhammad hor...
That is the reality!

Where is Oyk..I will pass the mic to him!
I'm sure he has plenty to add!
Oyk went holidays?
(04-08-2024, 12:59 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]U mean only u moslem very holy n pure 
While the Christians are bad eggs?

How you spewed vulgarities against Jesus u forgot ?
Christianity has been hijacked .They are Okay with everything I mentioned.Only Muslim society can still resist those.
(04-08-2024, 01:22 PM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]Christianity has been hijacked .They are Okay with everything I mentioned.Only Muslim society can still resist those.
Do u know this is pride exalting own self?
What proof to say Christians are ok with that?
(04-08-2024, 01:13 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]They didn’t mock our faith n  Jesus like u hope do ma

We don’t mock Jesus or Mary.
(04-08-2024, 01:24 PM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]We don’t mock Jesus or Mary.

Culprit will never admit wrong lah
(03-08-2024, 02:10 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]We follow God hor...you follow a dead Muhammad hor...
That is the reality!

Where is Oyk..I will pass the mic to him!
I'm sure he has plenty to add!


Quran 3:144
“Muḥammad is no more than a messenger; other messengers have gone before him. If he were to die or to be killed, would you regress into disbelief? Those who do so will not harm Allah whatsoever. And Allah will reward those who are grateful.”

Quran 21:34”We have not granted immortality to any human before you ˹O Prophet˺: so if you die, will they live forever?”
Plenty lubbish to exalt their faith
(04-08-2024, 01:25 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]Culprit will never admit wrong lah

Have you read Quran verses related to Jesus or Mary?
We always keep our comment accordingly.We cannot make fun or criticise them.
(04-08-2024, 01:39 PM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]Have you read Quran verses related to Jesus or Mary?
We always keep our comment accordingly.We cannot make fun or criticise them.

Didn’t u make fun of Jesus n now claim innocent!
(04-08-2024, 01:23 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]Do u know this is pride exalting own self?
What proof to say Christians are ok with that?

No.we don’t exalts
It is because Islam is from God.It will be there like a beacon .

Christian Okay with
Abortions.
Gay marriage in church .
Gay priest .
Nakedness even when praying God In church
Promiscuity
(04-08-2024, 01:43 PM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]No.
It is because Islam is from God.It will be there like a beacon .

Christian Okay with
Abortions.
Gay marriage in church .
Gay priest .
Nakedness even when praying God In church
Oh I see..
U mean your people don’t have gays,transvetitte, drug abusers..etc?
U mean Christians no wear clothings when praying?
U mean your people never go abortions ? Ons etc..
Wow very holy ..
No wonder got 72 vergeens waiting down under
(04-08-2024, 01:18 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]Oyk went holidays?

He is enjoying GST money 😂
(04-08-2024, 01:53 PM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]He is enjoying GST money 😂

N u r here condemning Christians
(04-08-2024, 01:43 PM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]No.we don’t exalts
It is because Islam is from God.It will be there like a beacon .

Christian Okay with
Abortions.
Gay marriage in church .
Gay priest .
Nakedness even when praying God In church
Promiscuity

Pls lah...Islam and the Quran are definitely not from Allah..

5:51 tells you Muslims not to be friends with Christians and Jews....which God teaches hatred?
Only Shytan!

The Bible has nothing on Islam and Muslim...so I don believe what a Muslim and its book has to say!
(04-08-2024, 01:58 PM)You pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]Pls lah...Islam and the Quran are definitely not from Allah..

5:51 tells you Muslims not to be friends with Christians and Jews....which God teaches hatred?
Only Shytan!

The Bible has nothing on Islam and Muslim...so I don believe what a Muslim and its book has to say!

Allah knows what’s hidden( In heart as well)
Do you know the occasion this verse was revealed?


Quran 5:51”O believers! Take neither Jews nor Christians as guardians—they are guardians of each other.Whoever does so will be counted as one of them. Surely Allah does not guide the wrongdoing people.”
(04-08-2024, 02:05 PM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]Allah knows what’s hidden( In heart as well)
Do you know the occasion this verse was revealed?


Quran 5:51”O believers! Take neither Jews nor Christians as guardians—they are guardians of each other.Whoever does so will be counted as one of them. Surely Allah does not guide the wrongdoing people.”

Then how come copy our bible n ali claim James  same teachings ?
(04-08-2024, 02:14 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]Then how come copy our bible n ali claim James  same teachings ?

Because their prophet cannot read or write, he relies on other Christians to help complete the book. However, he doesn't seem concerned about the accuracy of the content.

Naturally, he wants everyone to believe in his religion, which is why he will go to great lengths to undermine Jesus.
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