Islam is full of contradictions
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While the Quran claims to be the word of Allah, and Muslims accept this claim, there is no real evidence to support it. To the contrary, the Quran contradicts God’s earlier revelations to humanity; the Old Testament and the New Testament.
The Quran presents a different revelation of God than the one found in Scripture and hence it has led untold numbers of people astray from God’s truth. God’s truth is found in Holy Scripture and in it alone. This is the only standard of divine truth that God has revealed to the human race. All others are mere pretenders. This includes the Quran.
(06-08-2024, 09:01 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Why not?
It don’t agree Jesus is God but only a prophet n will come again to marry
It’s about how to lust more than born again
What a joke!
(06-08-2024, 10:49 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]It don’t agree Jesus is God but only a prophet n will come again to marry
What a joke!
No, the Quran doesn't say Jesus will marry.
Jesus didn't say he is God. He said clearly that he has a God who is also our God.
If we study the scriptures, we will learn that Jesus is not God so how can I be faulted for not believing that a man who was walking around in Jerusalem 2000+ years ago was God?
(06-08-2024, 10:56 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]No, the Quran doesn't say Jesus will marry.
Jesus didn't say he is God. He said clearly that he has a God who is also our God.
If we study the scriptures, we will learn that Jesus is not God so how can I be faulted for not believing that a man who was walking around in Jerusalem 2000+ years ago was God?
Hope said Jesus will come down n marry
Don’t want waste time argue with u
Bible n Quran are 2 different teachings
(06-08-2024, 09:15 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]While the Quran claims to be the word of Allah, and Muslims accept this claim, there is no real evidence to support it. To the contrary, the Quran contradicts God’s earlier revelations to humanity; the Old Testament and the New Testament.
The Quran presents a different revelation of God than the one found in Scripture and hence it has led untold numbers of people astray from God’s truth. God’s truth is found in Holy Scripture and in it alone. This is the only standard of divine truth that God has revealed to the human race. All others are mere pretenders. This includes the Quran.
Will get cursed for adding n subtracting the scriptures
(06-08-2024, 10:56 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]No, the Quran doesn't say Jesus will marry.
Jesus didn't say he is God. He said clearly that he has a God who is also our God.
If we study the scriptures, we will learn that Jesus is not God so how can I be faulted for not believing that a man who was walking around in Jerusalem 2000+ years ago was God?
Your Quran lacks sufficient detail; it provides only a partial account rather than a complete narrative. If Muhammad truly aims to refute the divinity of Jesus, don't just give us a half baked story and ask us to believe it.... instead please present some evidence, preferably from eyewitnesses.
Jesus claimed to be God in many verses....so don need to pretend he did not say that!
Jesus was known by the local people as a “miracle-worker,” a person who healed the sick, raised the dead, and cast out demons. His own resurrection from the dead was of course the greatest miracle of them all....one performed by his Father.
Miracles demonstrated the close relationship Jesus had with God, his Father. It is through the power of God that Jesus is able to perform miracles. Miracles proved that Jesus' teachings were true. Jesus was who he said he was...
Your religion, your Quran has no eye witnesses accounts or any evidences to discredit the Bible and the divinity of Jesus...then claimed all prophets are Muslims...see how unreasonable this is getting to be!
The world gave you a chance to live in denial yet you want to meddle with the truth...
(06-08-2024, 11:08 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]Will get cursed for adding n subtracting the scriptures
There are many verses added and subtracted from the Bible since the beginning.
How do you reconcile that with what you're saying?
(06-08-2024, 11:01 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]Hope said Jesus will come down n marry
Don’t want waste time argue with u
Bible n Quran are 2 different teachings
The New Testament has 2 opposing teachings on Sola Fide. Paul taught Sola Fide and James said you're a fool for believing what Paul taught.
How do you reconcile that?
(06-08-2024, 12:08 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]The New Testament has 2 opposing teachings on Sola Fide. Paul taught Sola Fide and James said you're a fool for believing what Paul taught.
How do you reconcile that?
What is there to reconcile....Don sow discord lah
Paul and James are not contradictory but rather provide a fuller understanding of faith. True faith naturally produces good works. Therefore, while salvation is by faith alone, that faith is confirmed by the way one lives....
Why? You sense some tension between Paul and James... what do you do? You pursue it relentlessly, like a shark sensing blood....
(06-08-2024, 12:08 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]The New Testament has 2 opposing teachings on Sola Fide. Paul taught Sola Fide and James said you're a fool for believing what Paul taught.
How do you reconcile that?
Same shits everyday nothing else !
(06-08-2024, 12:05 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]There are many verses added and subtracted from the Bible since the beginning.
How do you reconcile that with what you're saying?
Where ? Not just talk prove it
(06-08-2024, 11:32 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]Jesus claimed to be God in many verses....so don need to pretend he did not say that!
you can hear the MotherFaker Satan keep lying and twisting facts
(06-08-2024, 02:02 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]Where ? Not just talk prove it
The most glaring addition (or subtraction) is 1 John 5:7
You can find it in KJV but not in other Bible like NIV or NASB.
Why did scholars believe it was a verse added later on? There are 2 points in the answer.
1. The verse is not found in the earliest complete manuscripta of the New Testament, like Codex Sinaiticus.
2. No early church fathers like Polycarp or Iraneus ever mention this very important verse. They quoted a lot of NT verses in their homilies but not once did they ever quote 1 John 5:7.
(06-08-2024, 01:59 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]Same shits everyday nothing else !
Yes, it is manure.
Why do you have manure in your faith?
(06-08-2024, 02:29 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Yes, it is manure.
Why do you have manure in your faith?
U admit your faith is a manure?
lol
(06-08-2024, 02:28 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]The most glaring addition (or subtraction) is 1 John 5:7
You can find it in KJV but not in other Bible like NIV or NASB.
Why did scholars believe it was a verse added later on? There are 2 points in the answer.
1. The verse is not found in the earliest complete manuscripta of the New Testament, like Codex Sinaiticus.
2. No early church fathers like Polycarp or Iraneus ever mention this very important verse. They quoted a lot of NT verses in their homilies but not once did they ever quote 1 John 5:7.
Your faith even worse twist n turn until don’t know which path is correct.
(06-08-2024, 02:34 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]Your faith even worse twist n turn until don’t know which path is correct.
His motherfark satanic faith
(06-08-2024, 02:32 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]U admit your faith is a manure?
lol
We were talking about Sola Fide and the two opposing camps, James and Paul. You call that manure.
Why is there manure in the first place?
(06-08-2024, 02:34 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]Your faith even worse twist n turn until don’t know which path is correct.
I beg to differ, of course.
For us, we are clear about our faith and religion. It has been clearly defined right from the very start. Our religion consists of 5 pillars and our faith is based on 6 principles. It is the same everywhere, whether in China, France, or Indonesia. Whether we want to call ourselves Sunni or Shia. Nothing is added or taken out, even after 1,400+ years already.
Nothing is added or taken out
But most of it are satanically twisted distorted debase disgraceful untruthful deceitful and false
(06-08-2024, 03:05 PM)grotesqueness Wrote: [ -> ]Nothing is added or taken out
But most of it are satanically twisted distorted debase disgraceful untruthful deceitful and false
In our testimony of faith, we declare that there is only 1 God and a messenger God sent is not God but a servant of God.
In Jesus's testimony of faith, he too declared in John 17:3, that there is only 1 God and Jesus was sent as the promised Messiah.
Tell me how is that satanic?
(06-08-2024, 03:15 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]In our testimony of faith, we declare that there is only 1 God and a messenger God sent is not God but a servant of God.
In Jesus's testimony of faith, he too declared in John 17:3, that there is only 1 God and Jesus was sent as the promised Messiah.
Tell me how is that satanic?
YOUR GOD is a SATANIC GOD
(06-08-2024, 03:19 PM)grotesqueness Wrote: [ -> ]YOUR GOD is a SATANIC GOD
I worship the God of Jesus, the one Jesus said is the ONLY true God. (John 17:3)
(06-08-2024, 03:21 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]I worship the God of Jesus, the one Jesus said is the ONLY true God. (John 17:3)
you worship Fake God and Fake Jesus
jesus will tell you ' 'I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness'
(06-08-2024, 03:15 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]In our testimony of faith, we declare that there is only 1 God and a messenger God sent is not God but a servant of God.
In Jesus's testimony of faith, he too declared in John 17:3, that there is only 1 God and Jesus was sent as the promised Messiah.
Tell me how is that satanic?
He cited the words of Satan....how can he be associated with God!
He was Satan tool!
Gabriel came to the Prophet and said, 'O Muhammad, what have you done! You have recited to the people something which I have not brought you from God, and you have spoken what He did not say to you.'
Then God sent down the revelation. 'By the star when it sets! Your companion has not erred or gone astray, and does not speak from mere fancy…' [Q.53:1] When he reached God's words, "Have you seen al-Lāt and al-'Uzzā and Manāt, the third, the other?' [Q.53:19–20] Satan cast upon his tongue, because of what he had pondered in himself and longed to bring to his people, 'These are the high-flying cranes and their intercession is to be hoped for.'
When Quraysh heard that, they rejoiced.