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The other day, a Dr Tong (董金华博士医师) letter to PM Lee revealed to me about a law and regulation putting Chinese medicines as supplementary role and it prohibits TCM from practicing certain areas of disease. I believe that includes Covid19. Physicians who entered into such areas can be regarded as a contravention that can be subject to legal actions.  

That also probably made western medical practitioners as superior and will try to exclude such Chinese medicines from being used for treatment of Covid19.   

If so, that can be an obstacle for use as a treatment for Covid19. I think we should see China's success in controlling Covid19 in China. Refusal in learning and using China's way of controlling the disease is a reason that lead us to our predicament now.  

I hope we should change and learn to improve our handling the disease instead of rejecting a good way of treating the disease.  

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Too many interested parties involved. Husband and Wife. Decisions come with consequences.
AMTK mah!  Rotfl
In the recent Dorm Westlite at Jalan Tukang event, China's embassy sent in 莲花清瘟胶囊 to aid their workers.

I am eager to know if those med works. If works, we should learn and let physicians to prescribe such medication for healing patients. 

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Think majority of them are vaccinated with Pfizer as they are already here. Shipping Essential industry. The later arrivals may likely be Sinovac or Sinopharm. Closed to all are fully vaccinated.
好不容易刚练成金刚不败的童子身,竟然轻易被西卡破功了
lets see will FICA be exercise.  Rotfl
I would like to know who are these bunch bananas that made the rules and policies. The discrimination is so obvious and absurd and started long time ago..

Worldwide shortage of masks. Free boxes given to GP but not TCM clinics.. until Amy called up and trashed them

During cb, Cake shop can open but not TCM shops

China vaccines excluded from national vaccination program. (They specially created this program????)

Originally they also didn't recognize jabbing with Chinese vaccines as "vaccinated".

Now we have to pay $100 bucks for it while they generously donated 20000 Sinovac to JB then 200000 Sinopharm to Indonesia
(22-10-2021, 12:27 PM)Harry Lee Wrote: [ -> ]I would like to know who are these bunch bananas that made the rules and policies. The discrimination is so obvious and absurd and started long time ago..

Worldwide shortage of masks. Free boxes given to GP but not TCM clinics

During cb, Cake shop can open but not TCM shops

China vaccines excluded from  national vaccination program. (They specially created this program????)

Originally they also didn't recognize jabbing with Chinese vaccines as "vaccinated".

Now we have to pay $100 bucks for it while they generously donated 20000 Sinovac to JB then 200000 Sinopharm to Indonesia

Charity should begin at home......why donate to JB and Indonesia when we need the vaccine badly..... Angry
When they don't dare classify as foreign intereference? only dare bully own citizens? Laughing
(22-10-2021, 12:35 PM)debono Wrote: [ -> ]Charity should begin at home......why donate to JB and Indonesia when we need the vaccine badly..... Angry

You should ask your MP!
(22-10-2021, 10:34 AM)webinarian Wrote: [ -> ]In the recent Dorm Westlite at Jalan Tukang event, China's embassy sent in 莲花清瘟胶囊 to aid their workers.

I am eager to know if those med works. If works, we should learn and let physicians to prescribe such medication for healing patients. 

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I took it a week ago when I was feeling feverish when I thought I got covided. After 5 mins your throat will feel a nice "cooling" effect and I felt sleepy...I took it before bedtime. Next morning I felt light as though congestion cleared. I didn't follow the 3 times a day dosage, but took it again the 2nd nite.  I think it was becos of binging on KitKat, luckily, it's not Covid. But I like the cooling effect on the throat, nice feeling
Say too much and will be branded as CCP supporters..
i paid for the vaccine for it, yet our very own gov donate to other country for free. For that i will vote them out. Just for a vaccine that cost 99 U cannot provide for us, yet donate to other country. will not vote for you ever again.
(22-10-2021, 03:25 PM)jus4lucky Wrote: [ -> ]i paid for the vaccine for it, yet our very own gov donate to other country for free. For that i will vote them out. Just for a vaccine that cost 99 U cannot provide for us, yet donate to other country. will not vote for you ever again.

Too bad you need to wait for another 4 years...... crying crying
(22-10-2021, 03:25 PM)jus4lucky Wrote: [ -> ]i paid for the vaccine for it, yet our very own gov donate to other country for free. For that i will vote them out. Just for a vaccine that cost 99 U cannot provide for us, yet donate to other country. will not vote for you ever again.
There are many who ill afford the 99. So have to gamble with their life
MOH die2 must stick on Pfizer even though it is not even 40% effective.

Even those not infected by Covid, they die from the jab (see below image msg).

What is the point on continuing with Pfizer mRNA vaccine, why not switch to a safer and at least more effective vaccine.


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They still die die don't want to make Sinovac and Sinopharm available freely, just like Pfizer and Moderna?  Angry
(23-10-2021, 09:51 AM)cityhantam Wrote: [ -> ]They still die die don't want to make Sinovac and Sinopharm available freely, just like Pfizer and Moderna?  Angry

They may be ill-informed about the downside of using Pfizer and Moderna vaccines, on the other hand, how would they know if the Sinovac and Sinopharm vaccines are better an option than the P&M vaccines....
(23-10-2021, 09:58 AM)debono Wrote: [ -> ]They may be ill-informed about the downside of using Pfizer and Moderna vaccines, on the other hand, how would they know if the Sinovac and Sinopharm vaccines are better an option than the P&M vaccines....

Give people the choice!
They already allow people to take it...what's the problem?
Tear Zzzzz…whine whine whine
(22-10-2021, 01:50 PM)Harry Lee Wrote: [ -> ]I took it a week ago when I was feeling feverish. I thought I got covided. After 5 mins your throat will feel a nice "cooling" effect and I felt sleepy...I took it before bedtime. Next morning I felt light as though congestion cleared. I didn't follow the 3 times a day dosage, but took it again the 2nd nite.  I think it was becos of binging on KitKat, luckily, it's not Covid. But I like the cooling effect on the throat, nice feeling

Yes. I had the same experience about 3 months ago. I had a terrible cough and sneeze in the night. I took the med and slept for the night. The next morning I was completely relieved.   

I still visited Raffles Medical Clinic and took a swab test. The next day, the test result is negative. 

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(23-10-2021, 10:02 AM)sgbuffett Wrote: [ -> ]They already allow people to take it...what's the problem?

Yes, they already given people the choice on what vaccine to use.  Only thing is that the P&M vaccines are readily available and is given free of charge by our garment.  The Sinovac and Sinopharm vaccines can only be available in private clinics and hospitals, at a cost..... Thinking
(22-10-2021, 12:27 PM)Harry Lee Wrote: [ -> ]I would like to know who are these bunch bananas that made the rules and policies. The discrimination is so obvious and absurd and started long time ago..

Worldwide shortage of masks. Free boxes given to GP but not TCM clinics.. until Amy called up and trashed them

During cb, Cake shop can open but not TCM shops

China vaccines excluded from  national vaccination program. (They specially created this program????)

Originally they also didn't recognize jabbing with Chinese vaccines as "vaccinated".

Now we have to pay $100 bucks for it while they generously donated 20000 Sinovac to JB then 200000 Sinopharm to Indonesia

MOH had an inherent discrimination against Chinese medicine and vaccine at the detriment of life and death for Singaporeans.     

Next election, many people would not give their votes to PAP.
(23-10-2021, 10:02 AM)sgbuffett Wrote: [ -> ]They already allow people to take it...what's the problem?

You don't see the discrimination and unequal treatment vs the 40% effective Pfizer?   

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So far, any one deactivated vaccinated infection?

I haven't heard a single case yet.

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https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33485973/
The use of Chinese herbal medicines that are capable of inhibiting SARS-Cov-2 infection may help to address this immediate unmet clinical need and may be attractive to other countries that are also seeking new options for effective COVID-19 treatment.

And it is not just the Chinese herbal plants,
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10....71498/full
Bangladesh, Malaysia , India, Brazil , Crete etc

Just need consolidate and test out.

Modern medicine have limitations, need to give traditional medicine chances.
(22-10-2021, 03:25 PM)jus4lucky Wrote: [ -> ]i paid for the vaccine for it, yet our very own gov donate to other country for free. For that i will vote them out. Just for a vaccine that cost 99 U cannot provide for us, yet donate to other country. will not vote for you ever again.
Added to yours, the previous donation of Sinopharm vaccine to seniors was from OUE private organisation, and not a Govt institution.
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