(28-12-2024, 10:17 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:   
Jibril is a spirit and Muhammad is a physical being...it is irrational and illogical for him to ascend so high up without passing out or dying....

My point to Alisabeth is he shouldn't use logical and rational thinking into religion..or else he will have to deal with his own dilemma....Muhammad split the moon..how do you explain

(28-12-2024, 10:52 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Surah Al-Imran (3:55) states:

"When Allah said: 'O Jesus, I will take you and raise you to Myself and purify you from those who disbelieve, and I will make those who follow you superior to those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection. Then to Me is your return, and I will judge between you concerning that in which you used to differ.'"

  Allah is right!  

(28-12-2024, 02:06 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Do u know what idols worshipping consists of ?

(28-12-2024, 03:05 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Don run away...

It is an innovation and every innovation will lead you to hell fire...

Quran 3:144 - Muhammad is no more than a messenger: many were the messenger that passed away before him. So if he was to die or be killed, would you turn back on your heels?

Celebrating the birthday of the Prophet (pbuh) is an imitation of the Christians, because they celebrate the birth of the Messiah (peace be upon him). Imitating them is extremely haraam. The hadeeth tells us that it is forbidden to imitate the kuffaar, and we are commanded to differ from them. The Prophet (pbuh) said: “Whoever imitates a people is one of them” (narrated by Ahmad, 2/50; Abu Dawood, 4/314).

Do you know how many countries celebrate the birthday of Muhammad? 
When Moslems talk about obedience to God.....I say it is all false...

(28-12-2024, 03:28 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  The birthday of Prophet Muhammad, also known as Mawlid, is being celebrated across the world. In some Muslim countries, the day is a public holiday. In more conservative countries like Saudi Arabia and Qatar, the practice is forbidden as there is no record of the Prophet observing the day

Why some countries celebrate and some Don? Pls explain! There is absolutely no unity..

https://www.trtworld.com/life/heres-how-nine-countries-celebrated-prophet-muhammads-birthday-250772

(28-12-2024, 03:35 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Very good question my friend...

There is no actual first.

God in God's entirety has always existed.
When Jesus is as one with God through the Holy Spirit,, Jesus is a complete part of God

Jesus is a complete part of God when the Holy Spirit is overflowing the vessel that Jesus is.

Therefore, when Jesus is in that state (complete part of GOD), he has always existed (I AM).

(28-12-2024, 11:56 PM)Hope Wrote:  Do you follow his teachings of oneness of God?

(29-12-2024, 12:08 AM)Hope Wrote:  Which country officially celebrate?

(28-12-2024, 03:43 PM)Tee tiong huat Wrote:  The Legacy of Baba Vanga mention year 2043 European undergoes a significant cultural transformation with Islam becoming the predominant religion.

(29-12-2024, 12:06 AM)Hope Wrote:  Countries don’t celebrate. But some people 
Less than 1% of Total Muslim population in this world celebrate prophet’s birthday.

(28-12-2024, 03:52 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  I like your honesty...you don bend around looking for excuses to get away with difficult questions.....very much unlike your good friend Alisha 

(28-12-2024, 03:53 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Europe will never allow Islam to grow too big!

(28-12-2024, 11:55 PM)Hope Wrote:  What do you know about Mikaeel?
How did Jesus anc Enoch ascend to heaven?

(29-12-2024, 12:10 AM)Hope Wrote:  So, Jesus controls the sun, moon, rain, reproduction?
Jesus created us to sleep in the night?

(29-12-2024, 12:28 AM)Hope Wrote:  How many times did you get away?

(29-12-2024, 12:01 AM)Hope Wrote:  As per Islam, Accepting other powers and divinities as associate with Allah.

What about your belief?

(28-12-2024, 07:15 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Yes, I already know what you believe about our Creator. You believe our Creator is not a forgiving God. He created us with a propensity to sin, yet he cannot tolerate our sins. You believe God will throw me in hell for stealing a lollipop because he cannot just forgive me, even if I am sorry for that wrong.

Do you have an answer as to why our Creator created us with the propensity to sin when he cannot tolerate sins?

(28-12-2024, 08:51 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  “And the LORD said unto Moses, Wherefore criest thou unto me? speak unto the children of Israel, that they go forward: but lift thou up thy rod, and stretch out thine hand over the sea, and divide it: and the children of Israel shall go on dry ground through the midst of the sea.”
‭‭Exodus‬ ‭14‬:‭15‬-‭16‬ ‭KJV‬‬
https://bible.com/bible/1/exo.14.15-16.KJV

(28-12-2024, 09:11 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Lukongsimi is not wrong lah bro

The Staff of Moses, also known as the Rod of Moses or Staff of God, is mentioned in the Bible and Quran as a walking stick used by Moses.

Quran says walking stick wor.....you see the contradiction?

(29-12-2024, 01:22 AM)S I M T A N Wrote:  You have brought up this theodicy which theologians have been wrestling with over the eons. Also, that paradox - why would a benevolent
God create evil and permit suffering? The origin of evil hasn't been adequately explained. This theodicy is somewhat beyond the scope of this discussion, but I'll try to figure it out.

The most common theodicy to the problem of evil with all its tendencies to sin is to ground the origin of evil in the free will of man. We've the ability to sin because we're free. God isn't the author of evil since the Bible places the guilt and responsibility for sin on man.

Sin comes with the power of freedom of choice. Sin entered the human experience by way of the fall of A & E. They were created good and then fell by choosing to sin. Here, Adam, who brought death to humanity, is contrasted with Christ, who brings the eternal life of His resurrection. Redemption through Christ could enable men to overcome sin and thus become whole.

(28-12-2024, 08:17 PM)cheekopekman Wrote:  It's not a multiplication of food but rather a miracle only God could do lah!  Just as God rained down manna from heaven to feed those Israelites in the wilderness and sent quails to them, nothing is impossible for God lah!

(28-12-2024, 04:08 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  In Surah Al-Ma'idah (5:111), the Quran mentions that Jesus asked for a table spread with food from heaven, and the disciples expressed their faith in him. They are often recognized for their faith and commitment to Jesus's teachings. The Quran highlights the important role they played during Jesus's ministry, though it does not go into detail about individual disciples as the Christian texts do.

(28-12-2024, 07:17 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Who else can multiply food to feed thousands?
and still got balance food left 
It’s only God Himself don’t u agree ?

(28-12-2024, 08:27 PM)cheekopekman Wrote:  It's a staff not a rod lah!  God commanded Moses to speak to the rock but he hit it twice and water came out lah! Moses disobeyed God so he couldn't enter the promised land lah! God punished him and he had to die lah!

(28-12-2024, 08:35 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  The Staff of Moses, also known as the Rod of Moses or Staff of God, is mentioned in the Bible and Quran as a walking stick used

(28-12-2024, 09:03 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  The Quran has no names mentioned...pls show me if there is!
So you need to go back to previous scriptures  and ask those who have read before you  and do not doubt...this is what Allah commands....

When the Quran does not mention any names or the number of disciples..you must ask why? Why write stories about them but leave out their profiles?

(28-12-2024, 11:49 PM)Hope Wrote:  Alcohol was not banned at once . It was tolerated as it was part of Arab culture .


“O believers! Intoxicants, gambling, idols, and drawing lots for decisions are all evil of Satan’s handiwork. So shun them so you may be successful”.Quran 5:90


“They ask you ˹O Prophet˺ about intoxicants and gambling. Say, “There is great evil in both, as well as some benefit for people—but the evil outweighs the benefit.”1 They ˹also˺ ask you ˹O Prophet˺ what they should donate. Say, “Whatever you can spare.” This is how Allah makes His revelations clear to you ˹believers˺, so perhaps you may reflect”Quran 2:219


“O believers! Do not approach prayer while intoxicated until you are aware of what you say, nor in a state of ˹full˺ impurity—unless you merely pass through ˹the mosque˺—until you have bathed. But if you are ill, on a journey, or have relieved yourselves, or been intimate with your wives and cannot find water, then purify yourselves with clean earth, wiping your faces and hands. And Allah is Ever-Pardoning, All-Forgiving.”Quran 4:43

(29-12-2024, 06:12 AM)cheekopekman Wrote:  You proved that you're right so I'm wrong lah!  I don't use KJV only NIV lah! KJV used lots of ancient English difficult to understand lah!

(29-12-2024, 07:17 AM)Hope Wrote:  Which Quran verses mentioned as a walking stick?

(28-12-2024, 09:11 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Lukongsimi is not wrong lah bro

The Staff of Moses, also known as the Rod of Moses or Staff of God, is mentioned in the Bible and Quran as a walking stick used by Moses.

Quran says walking stick wor.....you see the contradiction?

(29-12-2024, 07:10 AM)Hope Wrote:  Which Quran verses mentioned the important roles disciples played?