[Hope]

 
Jibril is a spirit and Muhammad is a physical being...it is irrational and illogical for him to ascend so high up without passing out or dying....

My point to Alisabeth is he shouldn't use logical and rational thinking into religion..or else he will have to deal with his own dilemma....Muhammad split the moon..how do you explain

What do you know about Mikaeel?
How did Jesus anc Enoch ascend to heaven?

[Hope]

Surah Al-Imran (3:55) states:

"When Allah said: 'O Jesus, I will take you and raise you to Myself and purify you from those who disbelieve, and I will make those who follow you superior to those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection. Then to Me is your return, and I will judge between you concerning that in which you used to differ.'"

  Allah is right!  

Do you follow his teachings of oneness of God?

[Hope]

Do u know what idols worshipping consists of ?

As per Islam, Accepting other powers and divinities as associate with Allah.

What about your belief?

[Hope]

Don run away...

It is an innovation and every innovation will lead you to hell fire...

Quran 3:144 - Muhammad is no more than a messenger: many were the messenger that passed away before him. So if he was to die or be killed, would you turn back on your heels?

Celebrating the birthday of the Prophet (pbuh) is an imitation of the Christians, because they celebrate the birth of the Messiah (peace be upon him). Imitating them is extremely haraam. The hadeeth tells us that it is forbidden to imitate the kuffaar, and we are commanded to differ from them. The Prophet (pbuh) said: “Whoever imitates a people is one of them” (narrated by Ahmad, 2/50; Abu Dawood, 4/314).

Do you know how many countries celebrate the birthday of Muhammad? 
When Moslems talk about obedience to God.....I say it is all false...

Countries don’t celebrate. But some people .

Less than 1% of Total Muslim population in this world celebrate prophet’s birthday.

[Hope]

The birthday of Prophet Muhammad, also known as Mawlid, is being celebrated across the world. In some Muslim countries, the day is a public holiday. In more conservative countries like Saudi Arabia and Qatar, the practice is forbidden as there is no record of the Prophet observing the day

Why some countries celebrate and some Don? Pls explain! There is absolutely no unity..

https://www.trtworld.com/life/heres-how-...day-250772

Which country officially celebrate?

[Hope]

Very good question my friend...

There is no actual first.

God in God's entirety has always existed.
When Jesus is as one with God through the Holy Spirit,, Jesus is a complete part of God

Jesus is a complete part of God when the Holy Spirit is overflowing the vessel that Jesus is.

Therefore, when Jesus is in that state (complete part of GOD), he has always existed (I AM).

So, Jesus controls the sun, moon, rain, reproduction?
Jesus created us to sleep in the night?

[pinkpanther]

Do you follow his teachings of oneness of God?

We are monotheist....

The Quran gets the wrong info that the Trinity consist of God, Jesus and Mary.....How did Muhammad get this wrong?

[pinkpanther]

Which country officially celebrate?

[Hope]

The Legacy of Baba Vanga mention year 2043 European undergoes a significant cultural transformation with Islam becoming the predominant religion.

Next islam revolution comes from west.Muslim have bought hundreds of closed churches already.They are also building new one.

Not from Arabia, Africa, South Asia, Central Asia,South east Asia.


“He is the One Who has sent His Messenger with ˹true˺ guidance and the religion of truth, making it prevail over all others, even to the dismay of the polytheists.”Quran 9:33


And the messenger Muhammad (saw) said:
“Verily Allah has shown me the eastern and western part of the earth, and I saw the authority of my Ummah (nation) dominate all that I saw.” (Saheeh Muslim, hadeeth #2889)



Chapter 110 -Revealed before the victory over Mecca 1400 years ago.

“When Allah’s ˹ultimate˺ help comes and the victory ˹over Mecca is achieved˺,

“and you ˹O Prophet˺ see the people embracing Allah’s Way in crowds,

“then glorify the praises of your Lord and seek His forgiveness, for certainly He is ever Accepting of Repentance.

[pinkpanther]

Countries don’t celebrate. But some people 
Less than 1% of Total Muslim population in this world celebrate prophet’s birthday.

You can check for yourself...even Malaysia declared it a public holiday..

[Hope]

I like your honesty...you don bend around looking for excuses to get away with difficult questions.....very much unlike your good friend Alisha 

How many times did you get away?

[Hope]

Europe will never allow Islam to grow too big!

😂

[pinkpanther]

What do you know about Mikaeel?
How did Jesus anc Enoch ascend to heaven?

Archangel Michael is the chief commander....there are only a few passages in the Bible that talks about him...something like the protector of Israel...

You mean Elijah and Enoch? I think one of them walked with God for a while and then he is gone....

[pinkpanther]

So, Jesus controls the sun, moon, rain, reproduction?
Jesus created us to sleep in the night?

God!

[pinkpanther]

How many times did you get away?

None...I like to present my findings and build my case ..
Totally opposite from Alisabeth...He can commit Taqiyya to build up his arguments..  but on rare occasions he is truthful and he will admit it..

Surprisingly there is still goodness in him...lol

[Lukongsimi]

As per Islam, Accepting other powers and divinities as associate with Allah.

What about your belief?

I wrote so much here u should know what is my belief

[S I M T A N]

Yes, I already know what you believe about our Creator. You believe our Creator is not a forgiving God. He created us with a propensity to sin, yet he cannot tolerate our sins. You believe God will throw me in hell for stealing a lollipop because he cannot just forgive me, even if I am sorry for that wrong.

Do you have an answer as to why our Creator created us with the propensity to sin when he cannot tolerate sins?

You have brought up this theodicy which theologians have been wrestling with over the eons. Also, that paradox - why would a benevolent
God create evil and permit suffering? The origin of evil hasn't been adequately explained. This theodicy is somewhat beyond the scope of this discussion, but I'll try to figure it out.

The most common theodicy to the problem of evil with all its tendencies to sin is to ground the origin of evil in the free will of man. We've the ability to sin because we're free. God isn't the author of evil since the Bible places the guilt and responsibility for sin on man.

Sin comes with the power of freedom of choice. Sin entered the human experience by way of the fall of A & E. They were created good and then fell by choosing to sin. Here, Adam, who brought death to humanity, is contrasted with Christ, who brings the eternal life of His resurrection. Redemption through Christ could enable men to overcome sin and thus become whole.

[cheekopekman]

“And the LORD said unto Moses, Wherefore criest thou unto me? speak unto the children of Israel, that they go forward: but lift thou up thy rod, and stretch out thine hand over the sea, and divide it: and the children of Israel shall go on dry ground through the midst of the sea.”
‭‭Exodus‬ ‭14‬:‭15‬-‭16‬ ‭KJV‬‬
https://bible.com/bible/1/exo.14.15-16.KJV

Lukongsimi is not wrong lah bro

The Staff of Moses, also known as the Rod of Moses or Staff of God, is mentioned in the Bible and Quran as a walking stick used by Moses.

Quran says walking stick wor.....you see the contradiction?

You proved that you're right so I'm wrong lah!  I don't use KJV only NIV lah! KJV used lots of ancient English difficult to understand lah!

[cheekopekman]

You have brought up this theodicy which theologians have been wrestling with over the eons. Also, that paradox - why would a benevolent
God create evil and permit suffering? The origin of evil hasn't been adequately explained. This theodicy is somewhat beyond the scope of this discussion, but I'll try to figure it out.

The most common theodicy to the problem of evil with all its tendencies to sin is to ground the origin of evil in the free will of man. We've the ability to sin because we're free. God isn't the author of evil since the Bible places the guilt and responsibility for sin on man.

Sin comes with the power of freedom of choice. Sin entered the human experience by way of the fall of A & E. They were created good and then fell by choosing to sin. Here, Adam, who brought death to humanity, is contrasted with Christ, who brings the eternal life of His resurrection. Redemption through Christ could enable men to overcome sin and thus become whole.

Sin came into the world through Satan in Genesis 3 and he used a serpent 🐍 to tempt Adam and Eve in the garden to eat the forbidden fruit lah!  The devil actually possessed the snake to speak lah!

[Hope]

It's not a multiplication of food but rather a miracle only God could do lah!  Just as God rained down manna from heaven to feed those Israelites in the wilderness and sent quails to them, nothing is impossible for God lah!

If Nothing is impossible, why couldn’t Jesus make Jerusalem a city of Christian only?

[Hope]

In Surah Al-Ma'idah (5:111), the Quran mentions that Jesus asked for a table spread with food from heaven, and the disciples expressed their faith in him. They are often recognized for their faith and commitment to Jesus's teachings. The Quran highlights the important role they played during Jesus's ministry, though it does not go into detail about individual disciples as the Christian texts do.

Which Quran verses mentioned the important roles disciples played?

[Hope]

Who else can multiply food to feed thousands?
and still got balance food left 
It’s only God Himself don’t u agree ?

If he can do such miracle, why did he depend on others for his daily meals?

[Hope]

It's a staff not a rod lah!  God commanded Moses to speak to the rock but he hit it twice and water came out lah! Moses disobeyed God so he couldn't enter the promised land lah! God punished him and he had to die lah!

Moses or Israelites disobeyed ?
Is Moses a sinner in your bible?

[Hope]

The Staff of Moses, also known as the Rod of Moses or Staff of God, is mentioned in the Bible and Quran as a walking stick used

Which Quran verses mentioned as a walking stick?

[Hope]

The Quran has no names mentioned...pls show me if there is!
So you need to go back to previous scriptures  and ask those who have read before you  and do not doubt...this is what Allah commands....

When the Quran does not mention any names or the number of disciples..you must ask why? Why write stories about them but leave out their profiles?

Quran didn’t mention the names of those disciples. Their end is matching with Quran verse .



“Allah answered, “I am sending it down to you. But whoever among you denies afterwards will be subjected to a torment I have never inflicted on anyone of My creation.”Quran 5:115



Has Bible mentioned the fate of those disciples?


https://youtube.com/shorts/pPngIvxVNRA?s...G-OrEe5IQe

[pinkpanther]

Alcohol was not banned at once . It was tolerated as it was part of Arab culture .


“O believers! Intoxicants, gambling, idols, and drawing lots for decisions are all evil of Satan’s handiwork. So shun them so you may be successful”.Quran 5:90


“They ask you ˹O Prophet˺ about intoxicants and gambling. Say, “There is great evil in both, as well as some benefit for people—but the evil outweighs the benefit.”1 They ˹also˺ ask you ˹O Prophet˺ what they should donate. Say, “Whatever you can spare.” This is how Allah makes His revelations clear to you ˹believers˺, so perhaps you may reflect”Quran 2:219


“O believers! Do not approach prayer while intoxicated until you are aware of what you say, nor in a state of ˹full˺ impurity—unless you merely pass through ˹the mosque˺—until you have bathed. But if you are ill, on a journey, or have relieved yourselves, or been intimate with your wives and cannot find water, then purify yourselves with clean earth, wiping your faces and hands. And Allah is Ever-Pardoning, All-Forgiving.”Quran 4:43

Allah's Apostle said, "Whoever drinks alcoholic drinks in the world and does not repent (before dying), will be deprived of it in the Hereafter."

So drinking is allowed but you must repent....

[pinkpanther]

You proved that you're right so I'm wrong lah!  I don't use KJV only NIV lah! KJV used lots of ancient English difficult to understand lah!

Both you and lksm also right lah...

[Lukongsimi]

Which Quran verses mentioned as a walking stick?

U should know which verse as u are so well knowing in the Quran
((Allah) said: "Cast it down, O Musa!") "Throw down this stick that is in your right hand, O Musa."

فَأَلْقَـهَا فَإِذَا هِىَ حَيَّةٌ تَسْعَى
(He cast it down, and behold! It was a snake, moving quickly.) This means that the stick changed into a huge snake, like a long python, and it moved with rapid movements. It moved as if it were the fastest type of small snake. Yet, it was in the form of the largest snake, while still having the fastest of movements.

[Hope]

Lukongsimi is not wrong lah bro

The Staff of Moses, also known as the Rod of Moses or Staff of God, is mentioned in the Bible and Quran as a walking stick used by Moses.

Quran says walking stick wor.....you see the contradiction?

Which Quran verses?

[pinkpanther]

Which Quran verses mentioned the important roles disciples played?

When you ask me which verses from the Quran.....it shows that the Quran is inadequate 
Only the Bible tells you their roles...