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Tough job for opposition this coming elections.... - sgbuffett - 22-06-2024
I volunteered at several.elections for opposition campaigns..3 rounds 12yrs passed now we are close to another election.
My view is this. Some 15yrs ago I thought there should be a way to steer the country from its current path of high inequality, pro elites, high stress and pressure to a society that is more compassionate and just. No doubt those in position of wealth and power did everything to prevent change and kept steering the country in what I saw was a wayward direction
Life in Singapore has deteriorated for the commoners.
Owning a home is harder. Getting a good job is harder. Saving for retirement is harder. Access to medical care is more expensive and harder - just end of last yr it was reported hospitals have insufficient beds leading to long wait times. For those who need a car it is harder to own and maintain one.
In a thread 3 months ago I asked people which aspect of life has improved from 15yrs ago in a big way due to the govt. The only area people said has improved was public transport. While this is true, it improved only because we hit rock bottom 10yrs ago with frequent mrt delays and breakdowns.
Anyway, only a small minority thinks the economy has improved as the affordability of things have gone down across the board.
You may think this type lf decline will bring about a resurgence of the opposition.
I actually don't think so ...and the reason is this.
People have come to realised that what the PAP has done is irreversible. The damage is already done.
Take the unaffordable price of.housing. if the opposition comes in and bring down the price of.housing, home owners will cry foul when they see their asset prices falling. The.chance to solve this by moderating the foreign influx and preventing the population increase that led rapid rise of hosimg costs is already lost. We can only live with the consequences.
The opposition cannot do much to fix the situation.
It is hard now for the opposition to stand on stage to promise to fix the many problems we face because these problems are now entrenched.after so many years.
It is therefore hard for opposition to win more seats as voters will brush them off knowing they ",can't do much".
While I will still render my support to them, sadly I have lost motivation to do more as I can see the limit of where all this is going.
The ruling party will also use various tactics against opposition leaders to cripple them..The court case is coming up and will throw a major opposition party into disarray - I believe they will jail a few of them before the election.
In the end I also wonder if it is worth saving. The country over time will be occupied by new economic migrants forming majority of the populace often just using Singapore as a transient stop to other advanced countries. Singaporeans will be struggling just trying to stay afloat in these difficult circumstances with no time to worry about the future of their own society. This just gives the elites a free hand to turn the city state into a playground for the rich and stressful rat race for the rest.
RE: Tough job for opposition this coming elections.... - pinkpanther - 22-06-2024
You volunteer got free makan?
RE: Tough job for opposition this coming elections.... - winbig - 22-06-2024
(22-06-2024, 03:26 PM)sgbuffett Wrote: I volunteered at several.elections for opposition campaigns..3 rounds 12yrs passed now we are close to another election.
My view is this. Some 15yrs ago I thought there should be a way to steer the country from its current path of high inequality, pro elites, high stress and pressure to a society that is more compassionate and just. No doubt those in position of wealth and power did everything to prevent change and kept steering the country in what I saw was a way ward direction
Life in Singapore has deteriorated foe the commoners.
Owning a home is harder. Getting a good job is harder. Saving for retirement is harder. Access to medical care is more expensive and harder - just end of last yr it was reported hospitals have insufficient beds leading to long wait times. For those who need a car it is harder to own and maintain one.
In a thread 3 months ago I asked people which aspect of life has improved from 15yrs ago in a big way due to the govt. The only area people said has improved was public transport. While this is true, it improved only because we hit rock bottom 10yrs ago with frequent mrt delays and breakdowns.
Anyway, only a small minority will think the economy has improved as the affordability of things have gone down across the board.
You may think this type lf decline will bring about a resurgence of the opposition.
I actually don't think so ...and the reason is this.
People have come to realised that what the PAP has done is irreversible. The damage is already done.
Take the unaffordable price of.housing. if the opposition comes in and bring down the price of.housing, home owners will cry foul when they see their asset prices falling. The.chance to solve this by moderating the foreign influx and preventing the population increase that led rapid rise of hosimg costs is already lost. We can only live with the consequences.
The opposition cannot do much to fix the situation.
It is hard now for the opposition to stand on stage to promise to fix the many problems we face because these problems are now entrenched.after so many years.
It is therefore hard for opposition to win more seats as voters will brush them off knowing they ",can't do much".
While I will still render my support to them, sadly I have lost motivation to do more as I can see the limit of where all this is going.
The ruling party will also use various take action against opposition leaders to cripple these parties..The court case is coming up and will throw a major opposition party into disarray - I believe they will jail a few of them before the election.
In the end I also wonder if it is worth saving. The country over time will be occupied by new economic migrants forming majority of the populace often just using Singapore as a transient stop to other advanced countries. Singaporeans will be busy just trying to stay afloat in these difficult circumstances with no time to worry about the future of their own society. This just gives the elites a free hand to turn the city state into a playground for the rich and stressful rat race for the rest.
Having said so much, u have found the perfect excuse for yourself to vote for pap liao.
RE: Tough job for opposition this coming elections.... - Ola - 22-06-2024
Jac Lau Fart Sun King already said above
PAP support foreigners like him
So we need Opposition to support Citizens
RE: Tough job for opposition this coming elections.... - Oyk - 22-06-2024
(22-06-2024, 04:48 PM)winbig Wrote: Having said so much, u have found the perfect excuse for yourself to vote for pap liao.
That WOT of his is a make-believe. Very negative and self deceiving. In another country, he wouldn't be able to remain unemployed and live off his mommy for 20 years which he did.
RE: Tough job for opposition this coming elections.... - moonrab - 22-06-2024
(22-06-2024, 03:26 PM)sgbuffett Wrote: I volunteered at several.elections for opposition campaigns..3 rounds 12yrs passed now we are close to another election.
My view is this. Some 15yrs ago I thought there should be a way to steer the country from its current path of high inequality, pro elites, high stress and pressure to a society that is more compassionate and just. No doubt those in position of wealth and power did everything to prevent change and kept steering the country in what I saw was a way ward direction
Life in Singapore has deteriorated foe the commoners.
Owning a home is harder. Getting a good job is harder. Saving for retirement is harder. Access to medical care is more expensive and harder - just end of last yr it was reported hospitals have insufficient beds leading to long wait times. For those who need a car it is harder to own and maintain one.
In a thread 3 months ago I asked people which aspect of life has improved from 15yrs ago in a big way due to the govt. The only area people said has improved was public transport. While this is true, it improved only because we hit rock bottom 10yrs ago with frequent mrt delays and breakdowns.
Anyway, only a small minority will think the economy has improved as the affordability of things have gone down across the board.
You may think this type lf decline will bring about a resurgence of the opposition.
I actually don't think so ...and the reason is this.
People have come to realised that what the PAP has done is irreversible. The damage is already done.
Take the unaffordable price of.housing. if the opposition comes in and bring down the price of.housing, home owners will cry foul when they see their asset prices falling. The.chance to solve this by moderating the foreign influx and preventing the population increase that led rapid rise of hosimg costs is already lost. We can only live with the consequences.
The opposition cannot do much to fix the situation.
It is hard now for the opposition to stand on stage to promise to fix the many problems we face because these problems are now entrenched.after so many years.
It is therefore hard for opposition to win more seats as voters will brush them off knowing they ",can't do much".
While I will still render my support to them, sadly I have lost motivation to do more as I can see the limit of where all this is going.
The ruling party will also use various take action against opposition leaders to cripple these parties..The court case is coming up and will throw a major opposition party into disarray - I believe they will jail a few of them before the election.
In the end I also wonder if it is worth saving. The country over time will be occupied by new economic migrants forming majority of the populace often just using Singapore as a transient stop to other advanced countries. Singaporeans will be busy just trying to stay afloat in these difficult circumstances with no time to worry about the future of their own society. This just gives the elites a free hand to turn the city state into a playground for the rich and stressful rat race for the rest.
"In the end I also wonder if it is worth saving. The country over time will be occupied by new economic migrants forming majority of the populace often just using Singapore as a transient stop to other advanced countries. Singaporeans will be busy just trying to stay afloat in these difficult circumstances with no time to worry about the future of their own society. This just gives the elites a free hand to turn the city state into a playground for the rich and stressful rat race for the rest."
In the end, 65% still vote for PAP...
Singaporean still enjoying our island nation. That's all it matters...🤣
Meanwhile you still can whining over here forever. 🤭
Even Opposition also tulan with you, because you condemned them until become a useless parties.
If you really want change, fight for a coalition government.
WP, PSP and SDP..
PM, Deputy PM, Minister of Finance, etc...🤣
RE: Tough job for opposition this coming elections.... - Gemstar - 22-06-2024
(22-06-2024, 05:22 PM)moonrab Wrote: "In the end I also wonder if it is worth saving. The country over time will be occupied by new economic migrants forming majority of the populace often just using Singapore as a transient stop to other advanced countries. Singaporeans will be busy just trying to stay afloat in these difficult circumstances with no time to worry about the future of their own society. This just gives the elites a free hand to turn the city state into a playground for the rich and stressful rat race for the rest."Totally agrees. It is coalition the only strategy to beat those pappies. If only the Oppositions are united then can works. Least but not last, those hopeless Oppositions Parties that garner miserable votes shd back-off and retire for good.
In the end, 65% still vote for PAP...
Singaporean still enjoying our island nation. That's all it matters...🤣
Meanwhile you still can whining over here forever. 🤭
Even Opposition also tulan with you, because you condemned them until become a useless parties.
If you really want change, fight for a coalition government.
WP, PSP and SDP..
PM, Deputy PM, Minister of Finance, etc...🤣
RE: Tough job for opposition this coming elections.... - moonrab - 22-06-2024
(22-06-2024, 05:26 PM)Gemstar Wrote: Totally agrees. It is coalition the only strategy to beat those pappies. If only the Oppositions are united then can works. Least but not last, those hopeless Oppositions Parties that garner miserable votes shd back-off and retire for good.
WP too proud la...and selfish lo...🤣
PSP, SDP must contest in HG, Aljun, SK...
Let WP eat humble pie!!!cheers!!!
Let Opposition voters have another choice!!!! Yeah!!!
RE: Tough job for opposition this coming elections.... - Gemstar - 22-06-2024
(22-06-2024, 05:30 PM)moonrab Wrote: WP too proud la...and selfish lo...🤣I think this does not works appropriately. Let WP takes Aljunied again. And PSP as well SDP takes on other GRCs. This way, wil hv more Oppositions entry to Patlleement.
PSP, SDP must contest in HG, Aljun, SK...
Let WP eat humble pie!!!cheers!!!
Let Opposition voters have another choice!!!! Yeah!!!
RE: Tough job for opposition this coming elections.... - Oyk - 22-06-2024
(22-06-2024, 04:18 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: You volunteer got free makan?
He got a feel-good, like he'd contributed tremendously toward a better Singapore for the chewren and grandchewren of other sinkies and new sinkies alike.
This is very noble of him, to say the least, considering that he's single and the better future which he volunteered to fight so hard for is really not going to benefit his sperm-line which had been flushed away in his mother's bathroom...
RE: Tough job for opposition this coming elections.... - Oyk - 22-06-2024
(22-06-2024, 06:12 PM)Gemstar Wrote: I think this does not works appropriately. Let WP takes Aljunied again. And PSP as well SDP takes on other GRCs. This way, wil hv more Oppositions entry to Patlleement.
CECA supporter spotted.
RE: Tough job for opposition this coming elections.... - Gemstar - 22-06-2024
(22-06-2024, 05:30 PM)moonrab Wrote: WP too proud la...and selfish lo...🤣
PSP, SDP must contest in HG, Aljun, SK...
Let WP eat humble pie!!!cheers!!!
Let Opposition voters have another choice!!!! Yeah!!!
(22-06-2024, 06:12 PM)Gemstar Wrote: I think this does not works appropriately. Let WP takes Aljunied again. And PSP as well SDP takes on other GRCs. This way, wil hv more Oppositions entry to Patlleement.A 3-corner fight may ended up Oppositions having nothing.
RE: Tough job for opposition this coming elections.... - moonrab - 22-06-2024
(22-06-2024, 06:12 PM)Gemstar Wrote: I think this does not works appropriately. Let WP takes Aljunied again. And PSP as well SDP takes on other GRCs. This way, wil hv more Oppositions entry to Patlleement.
This will force WP to accept a coalition Opposition Party.
If not, we will forever vote for PAP...like what sgbuffett put it..🤣🤭
RE: Tough job for opposition this coming elections.... - moonrab - 22-06-2024
(22-06-2024, 06:26 PM)Gemstar Wrote: A 3-corner fight may ended up Oppositions having nothing.
Who ask them to fight as individual party. Combine la...
Opposition coalition vs WP.
You will see an instant collapse in WP.
After Coalition Opposition kick out WP, becoming even stronger to head on PAP in all constituents...cheers!
RE: Tough job for opposition this coming elections.... - WhatDoYouThink! - 22-06-2024
Whoever you supported always lost? This round try not to help maybe they'll hv a better chance
RE: Tough job for opposition this coming elections.... - Sentinel - 22-06-2024
(22-06-2024, 06:20 PM)Oyk Wrote: He got a feel-good, like he'd contributed tremendously toward a better Singapore for the chewren and grandchewren of other sinkies and new sinkies alike.Correction: His spermline is flushed down your mother's wide open mouth
This is very noble of him, to say the least, considering that he's single and the better future which he volunteered to fight so hard for is really not going to benefit his sperm-line which had been flushed away in his mother's bathroom...
RE: Tough job for opposition this coming elections.... - winbig - 22-06-2024
(22-06-2024, 06:42 PM)moonrab Wrote: Who ask them to fight as individual party. Combine la...
Opposition coalition vs WP.
You will see an instant collapse in WP.
After Coalition Opposition kick out WP, becoming even stronger to head on PAP in all constituents...cheers!
If the opposition consists of people like Lim Team, Goh Meng Seng, etc whatever coalition they form will collapse.
RE: Tough job for opposition this coming elections.... - Gemstar - 22-06-2024
(22-06-2024, 06:54 PM)winbig Wrote: If the opposition consists of people like Lim Team, Goh Meng Seng, etc whatever coalition they form will collapse.That is why I said useless and hopeless party like Lim Tean shd back-off and don’t spoil the whole show.
RE: Tough job for opposition this coming elections.... - moonrab - 22-06-2024
(22-06-2024, 06:54 PM)winbig Wrote: If the opposition consists of people like Lim Team, Goh Meng Seng, etc whatever coalition they form will collapse.
🤭🤣
You very bad...
But I am serious, good Opposition should combine force and settle themselves who is the Leader of Opposition party.
That's how you win election, no 2 ways about.
Like Sgbuffett said, our Oppies is a waste of time..haiz
RE: Tough job for opposition this coming elections.... - Oyk - 22-06-2024
(22-06-2024, 06:49 PM)Sentinel Wrote: Correction: His spermline is flushed down my mother's wide open mouth
Well noted
RE: Tough job for opposition this coming elections.... - WhatDoYouThink! - 22-06-2024
With the amount of negative energy you bring to them, they sure lose. This time try to offer yr help to a puppy and see how
RE: Tough job for opposition this coming elections.... - Oyk - 22-06-2024
(22-06-2024, 07:22 PM)moonrab Wrote: 🤭🤣
You very bad...
But I am serious, good Opposition should combine force and settle themselves who is the Leader of Opposition party.
That's how you win election, no 2 ways about.
Like Sgbuffett said, our Oppies is a waste of time..haiz
Sgbuffet is worth quoting?
RE: Tough job for opposition this coming elections.... - Oyk - 22-06-2024
(22-06-2024, 07:17 PM)Gemstar Wrote: That is why I said useless and hopeless party like Lim Tean shd back-off and don’t spoil the whole show.
Lim Tean, HHH, Roy Ngerng, Charles 体统 ， KJ, Pritam, RK....the whole lot of them. Whom did you vote for?
RE: Tough job for opposition this coming elections.... - moonrab - 22-06-2024
(22-06-2024, 07:41 PM)Oyk Wrote: Sgbuffet is worth quoting?
Ok la, at times can lo..🤣
RE: Tough job for opposition this coming elections.... - Oyk - 22-06-2024
(22-06-2024, 07:46 PM)moonrab Wrote: Ok la, at times can lo..🤣
Oic
RE: Tough job for opposition this coming elections.... - pinkpanther - 22-06-2024
(22-06-2024, 06:20 PM)Oyk Wrote: He got a feel-good, like he'd contributed tremendously toward a better Singapore for the chewren and grandchewren of other sinkies and new sinkies alike.
This is very noble of him, to say the least, considering that he's single and the better future which he volunteered to fight so hard for is really not going to benefit his sperm-line which had been flushed away in his mother's bathroom...
Contributed so much but no policies has benefited him...
What WP should at least do is to introduce him a lady of some sort
just to keep his services come erection... 
Have they done anything for ah Butt? No!His Ah Kong will be sad to know that the blood line ends here ....but don worry..ah Butt still has some time to make it right!
RE: Tough job for opposition this coming elections.... - ArielCasper - 22-06-2024
I alway see things like what it will be in corporate world.
If the vendor is in the job for too long and overcharging you, then it is time to change the vendor.
Of coz, at work you change vendor, only company benefit from the saving, but here, it will make a diff for your future generations.
RE: Tough job for opposition this coming elections.... - winbig - 22-06-2024
(22-06-2024, 07:17 PM)Gemstar Wrote: That is why I said useless and hopeless party like Lim Tean shd back-off and don’t spoil the whole show.
Hopeless and useless party happen to have lots of ego. If they cannot get elected, they'll rather take part and spoil the chances of other oppositions.
RE: Tough job for opposition this coming elections.... - Oyk - 22-06-2024
(22-06-2024, 08:20 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: Contributed so much but no policies has benefited him...
What WP should at least do is to introduce him a lady of some sort
His Ah Kong will be sad to know that the blood line ends here ....but don worry..ah Butt still has some time to make it right!
Saliva Lim taken by footballer. Nao hair white already, very scary. RK also taken but not sure he's willing to potong if still available. He should not waste his taim with ceca party...
He can try PSP. Tiagong HP still available. Good place for him to volunteer. Later can apply for BTO. 1 million will become 1.5 millionnn as he said yesterday.
RE: Tough job for opposition this coming elections.... - ODA TETSURO - 22-06-2024
It's equivalent to say....
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