Scripture readings for Christmas

(04-03-2025, 09:23 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Any prophets got the authority to forgive sins ?
Only God has  the authority n Jesus is God 
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Did you miss the part where Jesus said he was given the authority? If Jesus is God, does he need to be given the authority?
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(04-03-2025, 09:17 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  In order to live as man to die for our sin 

Get it?

Before Jesus, God has always been forgiving sins. Why suddenly God lost the ability to forgive sins?
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Good for you to know that God forgives sins before Jesus...who paid the price? Animals! God is no longer interested...but only one religion practise mass killings of animals to show their obedience to God

Jesus had to sacrifice himself to God because it was the only satisfactory offering. Only the death of the God-man could satisfy the righteous demands of a holy God. Everything we do is tainted by sin...

No more blood is required...
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(04-03-2025, 09:23 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Any prophets got the authority to forgive sins ?
Only God has  the authority n Jesus is God 
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Good morning pengyu.

Can you forgive someone who sins against you? Yes, can. It says so in your Lord's prayer.

Can the priest forgive sins? Yes, they have been doing that for more than a thousand years before your type of Christianity came into the picture. You do know that your brand of Christianity came about a thousand years after Jesus, I hope.
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The belief in Islam is not even in unity.. Definitely worse than Christianity..It has always been Trinity and nothing changed..Just look at Islam

Ahmadi Muslims believe the Messiah of Bani Israel (Children of Israel) has died as per the Qur’an and Ahadith [sayings of the Holy Prophet (sa)] and will never return

Shi'a Islam) Muslims believe in one God, Allah, who revealed his word to humanity through a line of special messengers known as prophets. Allah's final prophet was Muhammad, to whom the Qur'an was revealed.

Wahhabism advocates a purification of Islam, rejects Islamic theology and philosophy developed after the death of the Prophet Muhammad, and calls for strict adherence to the letter of the Koran and hadith [the recorded sayings and practices of the Prophet]

In contrast to the Muslims, Bahåʟís do not believe that Muhammad is the final messenger of God, or rather define eschatology and end times references as metaphorical for changes in the ages or eras of mankind but that it and progress of God's guidance continues.

As a creed that teaches the symbolic/esoteric reading of Qur'anic verses, Alawite theology is based on the belief in reincarnation and views Ali as a divine incarnation of God

Sufis believe the name of Muhammad is holy and sacred. Devotion to Muhammad is the strongest practice within Sufism. Sufis have historically revered Muhammad as the prime personality of spiritual greatness.

The Ismailis hold that Muslims are commanded to be a community of the middle path and of balance, a community that avoids extremes and that enjoins good and …
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Shambolic! Different ideas, different beliefs..
Still dare to criticise the many Christian denominations....
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So which one should a moslem follow or should I ask which sect is closer to Allah?
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Q6:159] Surely they who divided their religion into parts and became sects, you have no concern with them; their affair is only with Allah, then He will inform them of what they did. Indeed those who split up their religion and became sects, you will not have anything to do with them.

 In Quran we are commanded not to divide ourselves into sects. Thus dividing our religion into sects is against God's command. Those who divide into sects are termed as idol worshippers, and not members of God's religion.

Isnt it clear that Sunnis and Shia are two diferent sects? Now I know why Allah remains as a no show..He is just not interested in His disobedient followers anymore..

What is the point of praying 5 times daily and yet failed to obey His words..

Mohsin Khan: And whosoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad SAW), and transgresses His limits, He will cast him into the Fire, to abide therein; and he shall have a disgraceful torment.
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The divide between Sunnis and Shia is the largest and oldest in the history of Islam. Members of the two sects have co-existed for centuries and share many fundamental beliefs and practices. But they differ in doctrine, ritual, law, theology and religious organisation.
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The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) also described them in the following terms: “My ummah will split into seventy-three sects, all of whom will be in Hell except one group.” They said: Who are they, O Messenger of Allah? He said: “(Those who follow) that which I and my companions follow.” This is mentioned in the hadeeth of ‘Abd-Allah ibn ‘Amr which was recorded and classed as hasan by al-Tirmidhi (2641). It was also classed as hasan by al-‘Iraaqi in Ahkaam al-Quran (3/432), al-‘Iraaqi in Takhreej al-Ihya’ (3/284) and al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Tirmidhi. 

What are your chances of entering jannah my moslem friends  Big Grin
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(05-03-2025, 06:08 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Good morning pengyu.

Can you forgive someone who sins against you? Yes, can. It says so in your Lord's prayer.

Can the priest forgive sins? Yes, they have been doing that for more than a thousand years before your type of Christianity came into the picture. You do know that your brand of Christianity came about a thousand years after Jesus, I hope.

We are taught to forgive each other directly or pray the Lord’s Prayer for forgiveness and repent

But those who refuse to believe Christ is the way to kingdom of God they are condemned.

 No weapon that forms against me shall prospers.
Silly people will only ask repeated silly questions 
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(05-03-2025, 09:10 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) also described them in the following terms: “My ummah will split into seventy-three sects, all of whom will be in Hell except one group.” They said: Who are they, O Messenger of Allah? He said: “(Those who follow) that which I and my companions follow.” This is mentioned in the hadeeth of ‘Abd-Allah ibn ‘Amr which was recorded and classed as hasan by al-Tirmidhi (2641). It was also classed as hasan by al-‘Iraaqi in Ahkaam al-Quran (3/432), al-‘Iraaqi in Takhreej al-Ihya’ (3/284) and al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Tirmidhi. 

What are your chances of entering jannah my moslem friends  Big Grin

Like hoping to strike lottery 
N not sure ?

 No weapon that forms against me shall prospers.
Silly people will only ask repeated silly questions 
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(04-03-2025, 09:35 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Did you miss the part where Jesus said he was given the authority? If Jesus is God, does he need to be given the authority?

Why only Jesus given the authority ?
Think

 No weapon that forms against me shall prospers.
Silly people will only ask repeated silly questions 
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(04-03-2025, 09:37 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Before Jesus, God has always been forgiving sins. Why suddenly God lost the ability to forgive sins?
The laws made man impossible to follow all 
God so love us that He has to think of an easier way
to save humanity soul which is eternal

 No weapon that forms against me shall prospers.
Silly people will only ask repeated silly questions 
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(05-03-2025, 10:00 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Like hoping to strike lottery 
N not sure ?

Actually they do not know that they are sinning against God. Islam does not allow sects and I believe our 2 moslem friends belong to sunni sect.

It is haram. Some sects don't believe in the Prophet Muhammad (SAW) and they believe in someone else. Some sects believe you can have tattoos, which is also haram. Obviously these things are haram, meaning if you partake in sects, you are committing a sin
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(05-03-2025, 10:46 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Actually they do not know that they are sinning against God. Islam does not allow sects and I believe our 2 moslem friends belong to sunni sect.

It is haram. Some sects don't believe in the Prophet Muhammad (SAW) and they believe in someone else. Some sects believe you can have tattoos, which is also haram. Obviously these things are haram, meaning if you partake in sects, you are committing a sin

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 No weapon that forms against me shall prospers.
Silly people will only ask repeated silly questions 
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Tot they only have 1 sect
After search really shocks me
Yet they mock us having so
Many denominations 

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73 Sects (Hadith) The hadith attributed to Muhammad and known as the hadith of 73 sects states that there will be 73 different sects and groups within Islam, and that only one of these groups will reach salvation or heaven, while the others will be destined for hell.

 No weapon that forms against me shall prospers.
Silly people will only ask repeated silly questions 
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(05-03-2025, 01:24 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Tot they only have 1 sect
After search really shocks me
Yet they mock us having so
Many denominations 

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73 Sects (Hadith) The hadith attributed to Muhammad and known as the hadith of 73 sects states that there will be 73 different sects and groups within Islam, and that only one of these groups will reach salvation or heaven, while the others will be destined for hell.

95% of the Muslims today are the followers of Prophet Muhammad, described as 'ahli-sunnah wal-jamaah'.

It is very simple. Our prophet doesn't want his ummah to be like the Christians, divided into many denominations because, inevitably, there will always be some smart-alec who will think they know better and will come up with a heretical idea. But because of that Hadith, they are either small fringe groups, or they will die a natural death.

Peace be upon Prophet Muhammad, who made sure that we remain on the straight path even after 1446 years already.
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(05-03-2025, 10:01 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Why only Jesus given the authority ?
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What about the many priests? How come they have the authority too?
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(05-03-2025, 09:49 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  We are taught to forgive each other directly or pray the Lord’s Prayer for forgiveness and repent

But those who refuse to believe Christ is the way to kingdom of God they are condemned.

I believe Jesus, the son of Mary, is the way to God.

But do I have his teachings today? The answer is no.
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(05-03-2025, 02:00 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  95% of the Muslims today are the followers of Prophet Muhammad. 

It is very simple. Our prophet doesn't want his ummah to be like the Christians, divided into many denominations. Inevitably, there will always be some smart-alex who will think they know better and will come up with a heretical idea. But because of that Hadith, they all never are either small fringe groups, or they will die a natural death.

Peace be upon Prophet Muhammad, who made sure that we remain on the straight path even after 1446 years already.
Means most moslems worship man ?

 No weapon that forms against me shall prospers.
Silly people will only ask repeated silly questions 
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(05-03-2025, 02:03 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I believe Jesus, the son of Mary, is the way to God.

But do I have his teachings today? The answer is no.
Jesus teachings all in the Bible not in your Koran that is why

 No weapon that forms against me shall prospers.
Silly people will only ask repeated silly questions 
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(05-03-2025, 02:05 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Jesus teachings all in the Bible not in your Koran that is why

If I follow the teachings of Jesus from the Bible, I will be a Muslim because Jesus in the Bible says that there is only 1 God.

So how?
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(05-03-2025, 02:04 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Means most moslems worship man ?

No, we worship the one true God.
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(05-03-2025, 02:08 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  No, we worship the one true God.

U claim most moslems followers of your muh Sunni?
95% 😮

 No weapon that forms against me shall prospers.
Silly people will only ask repeated silly questions 
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(05-03-2025, 02:07 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  If I follow the teachings of Jesus from the Bible, I will be a Muslim because Jesus in the Bible says that there is only 1 God.

So how?

U follow muh so u r a moslem 
Follow Christ is Christians

 No weapon that forms against me shall prospers.
Silly people will only ask repeated silly questions 
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(05-03-2025, 02:09 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  U claim most moslems followers of your muh Sunni?

Yes, we are followers of Prophet Muhammad. He is the way to God for us. Jesus, the son of Mary, was also the way to God for his followers.
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(05-03-2025, 02:13 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  U follow muh so u r a moslem 
Follow Christ is Christians

But Jesus said there is only 1 God, not 3.
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(05-03-2025, 02:13 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Yes, we are followers of Prophet Muhammad. He is the way to God for us. Jesus, the son of Mary, was also the way to God for his followers.
Not same path 
One is horny 
One is holy

 No weapon that forms against me shall prospers.
Silly people will only ask repeated silly questions 
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(05-03-2025, 02:14 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  But Jesus said there is only 1 God, not 3.

U r a moslem cannot see the truth lah

 No weapon that forms against me shall prospers.
Silly people will only ask repeated silly questions 
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