Scripture readings for Christmas
10-05-2025, 04:21 PM
10-05-2025, 04:35 PM
(10-05-2025, 12:00 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: Welcome back bro ...
(10-05-2025, 01:28 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: Tot u come here to defend your Moslem fren
U never call us fren bef
"Shalom" means 'peace' lah!

Greetings from Sabah, East Malaysia lah! Now on mission trip lah! My time is limited here lah!
10-05-2025, 05:34 PM
(10-05-2025, 04:35 PM)cheekopekman Wrote: "Shalom" means 'peace' lah!Jesus used that word when He greeted His disciples upon His resurrection lah! "Peace to you!"
Greetings from Sabah, East Malaysia lah! Now on mission trip lah! My time is limited here lah!
Hope good harvest
😊
As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
10-05-2025, 06:37 PM
(10-05-2025, 04:35 PM)cheekopekman Wrote: "Shalom" means 'peace' lah!Jesus used that word when He greeted His disciples upon His resurrection lah! "Peace to you!"
Greetings from Sabah, East Malaysia lah! Now on mission trip lah! My time is limited here lah!
Good job, pls convert more moslems into christians..

10-05-2025, 06:39 PM
if people were not to commit sins, Allah would replace them with another people who would commit sins and then seek forgiveness, and Allah would forgive them.
This is based on a hadith (saying of Prophet Muhammad) narrated by Abu Huraira, where the Prophet said, "By Him in Whose Hand is my life, if you were not to commit sin, Allah would sweep you out of existence and He would replace (you by) those people who would commit sin and seek forgiveness from Allah, and He would have pardoned them," according to a hadith collection.
Now that is the main difference between Islam and christianity
This is based on a hadith (saying of Prophet Muhammad) narrated by Abu Huraira, where the Prophet said, "By Him in Whose Hand is my life, if you were not to commit sin, Allah would sweep you out of existence and He would replace (you by) those people who would commit sin and seek forgiveness from Allah, and He would have pardoned them," according to a hadith collection.
Now that is the main difference between Islam and christianity
10-05-2025, 06:56 PM
(10-05-2025, 04:12 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: You are right ..no one has met him..he is a fictional character
That means man made words not from above
Rest copied from bible n changed some to make their religion exists
As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
10-05-2025, 07:00 PM
10-05-2025, 07:00 PM
(10-05-2025, 06:39 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: if people were not to commit sins, Allah would replace them with another people who would commit sins and then seek forgiveness, and Allah would forgive them.
This is based on a hadith (saying of Prophet Muhammad) narrated by Abu Huraira, where the Prophet said, "By Him in Whose Hand is my life, if you were not to commit sin, Allah would sweep you out of existence and He would replace (you by) those people who would commit sin and seek forgiveness from Allah, and He would have pardoned them," according to a hadith collection.
Now that is the main difference between Islam and christianity
Bef people convert did they fully read what their book consists of
Or convert without understanding in order to get married to Muslim spouse.
As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
10-05-2025, 07:01 PM
(10-05-2025, 07:00 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: Some verses said by Allah is exactly what Paul said...
Allah also make the same statements as Jesus in many verses...
Copy cat Liao
No wonder no vision or dreams from their god.
As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
10-05-2025, 07:02 PM
(10-05-2025, 07:00 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: Bef people convert did they fully read what their book consists of
Or convert without understanding in order to get married to Muslim spouse.
In many cases we read, people convert to Islam after studying the Quran. The Quran is the reason why many people became Muslim.
10-05-2025, 07:05 PM
(10-05-2025, 07:00 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: Bef people convert did they fully read what their book consists of
Or convert without understanding in order to get married to Muslim spouse.
Just say the Shahada and you are a moslem..many before their final moments also did it...
Knowledge of the Quran is not required
10-05-2025, 07:08 PM
(10-05-2025, 07:05 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: Just say the Shahada and you are a moslem..many before their final moments also did it...
Knowledge of the Quran is not required
Like taking a plane not knowing its destination
As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
10-05-2025, 07:08 PM
10-05-2025, 07:10 PM
(10-05-2025, 07:08 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: Like taking a plane not knowing its destination
But as it is written: “Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, nor have entered into the heart of man the things which God has prepared for those who love Him.” (1 Corinthians 2:9) - 54 A.D.
About 600 years later, Muhammad is recorded in a Hadith Qudsi as saying:
Allah Most High said: 'I have prepared for My righteous worshipers what no eye has seen, no ear has heard, and no human heart has conceived.' (Jami` at-Tirmidhi 3197 - Grade: Sahih)
10-05-2025, 07:24 PM
(10-05-2025, 07:08 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: like the one in 1 Corinthians 2:9 and the Hadith Qudsi, are essentially identical in their wording, raising questions about their origin.
The Hadith was written 250 years later after Muhammad death by some one who had never met him.
It’s copied from the bible
Quran Written 2 years after his death n was destroyed n rewrote wow!
As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
10-05-2025, 07:28 PM
(10-05-2025, 07:24 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: The Hadith was written 250 years later after Muhammad death by some one who had never met him.
It’s copied from the bible
Good thinking...you are right..
I believe the Hadiths are corrupted..

there is a strong academic consensus that a significant portion of hadiths, particularly those collected later in Islamic history, may be fabrications or unreliable.
Can we also apply this corruption to the Quran?

10-05-2025, 07:32 PM
(10-05-2025, 07:28 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: Good thinking...you are right..
I believe the Hadiths are corrupted..
there is a strong academic consensus that a significant portion of hadiths, particularly those collected later in Islamic history, may be fabrications or unreliable.
Can we also apply this corruption to the Quran?
Both could be confirmed corrupted since it was written without knowledge by someone
N moslems have no vision of who is their god.
As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
10-05-2025, 07:56 PM
(10-05-2025, 07:32 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: Both could be confirmed corrupted since it was written without knowledge by someone
N moslems have no vision of who is their god.
God alone has immortality, who dwells in light that no one can approach, whom no one has ever seen or can see. To him be honor and eternal power. - 1 Tim 6:16
In the Bible, it says no one can see God. So, if you can see Jesus, even if it is in your dreams, that means he is not God.
Btw, that verse was just brought up a few days ago. It says God cannot die. So why do you believe your God died?
10-05-2025, 07:58 PM
10-05-2025, 07:59 PM
God alone has immortality, who dwells in light that no one can approach, whom no one has ever seen or can see. To him be honor and eternal power. - 1 Tim 6:16
Who wrote that? Paul. Did Paul knew people can see Jesus? Yes. Did Paul believe Jesus died? Yes.
If you use a little bit of your thinking power, you can immediately conclude that Paul doesn't believe Jesus is God because he said God cannot die and God cannot be seen.
Who wrote that? Paul. Did Paul knew people can see Jesus? Yes. Did Paul believe Jesus died? Yes.
If you use a little bit of your thinking power, you can immediately conclude that Paul doesn't believe Jesus is God because he said God cannot die and God cannot be seen.
10-05-2025, 08:01 PM
Dei....you cannot see God face to face lah..but God can appear in your dreams to send you a message
10-05-2025, 08:09 PM
Jesus birth on earth involved of the Holy Spirit and God
As God is a Spirit no one can see Him
Only through Jesus we can see the Father as we were created in their image
God is seeking True worshippers who worship God in spirit and in truth
As God is a Spirit no one can see Him
Only through Jesus we can see the Father as we were created in their image
God is seeking True worshippers who worship God in spirit and in truth
As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
10-05-2025, 08:10 PM
You keep saying God cannot die..Jesus is fully man fully God...He died as a man but with his divinity He lives again...
Is Jesus dead or alive accordingly to the Quran?
If He is a man, can He still be alive? where is his tomb stone? You cannot go to the Barzahk in a human body
According to Islamic belief, Jesus' human body is in heaven...you like to be clear in the mind then why is Jesus human body able to withstand time?
He is the last messenger because all the messengers before him were all dead...your shahada should include Jesus because He can still hear you...
Is Jesus dead or alive accordingly to the Quran?
If He is a man, can He still be alive? where is his tomb stone? You cannot go to the Barzahk in a human body
According to Islamic belief, Jesus' human body is in heaven...you like to be clear in the mind then why is Jesus human body able to withstand time?
He is the last messenger because all the messengers before him were all dead...your shahada should include Jesus because He can still hear you...
10-05-2025, 08:12 PM
In John 14:8, Philip asks Jesus, "Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us,". Jesus replies, "Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known me, Philip? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father". Essentially, Philip is asking for a physical or tangible demonstration of the Father, while Jesus is stating that He is the Father's representation on earth and that knowing Him is knowing the Father.
As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
10-05-2025, 08:15 PM
(10-05-2025, 08:10 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: You keep saying God cannot die..Jesus is fully man fully God...He died as a man but with his divinity He lives again...
Is Jesus dead or alive accordingly to the Quran?
If He is a man, can He still be alive? where is his tomb stone? You cannot go to the Barzahk in a human body
According to Islamic belief, Jesus' human body is in heaven...you like to be clear in the mind then why is Jesus human body able to withstand time?
He is the last messenger because all the messengers before him were all dead...your shahada should include Jesus because He can still hear you...
Ya loh he is still spiritually blinded by his religion
As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
10-05-2025, 08:21 PM
Jesus did not die eternally
Only 3 days
His tomb is empty with a folded cloth which means it’s finished,done.
He is the alpha and the omega
The first and the last
Who was and is to come
Only 3 days
His tomb is empty with a folded cloth which means it’s finished,done.
He is the alpha and the omega
The first and the last
Who was and is to come
As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
10-05-2025, 08:28 PM
(10-05-2025, 08:12 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: In John 14:8, Philip asks Jesus, "Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us,". Jesus replies, "Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known me, Philip? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father". Essentially, Philip is asking for a physical or tangible demonstration of the Father, while Jesus is stating that He is the Father's representation on earth and that knowing Him is knowing the Father.
I can accept that explanation. It can support the argument that Jesus is not God.
10-05-2025, 08:30 PM
10-05-2025, 08:43 PM
Dey...As an eternal being of spirit, He was immortal. Only the physical body was capable of dying
10-05-2025, 08:44 PM
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