Scripture readings for Christmas

(26-05-2025, 07:02 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Note the pronoun " I " in this verse below. (Deut 32:39)

I, and I alone, am God; no other god is real. I kill and I give life, I wound and I heal, and no one can oppose what I do.

Who is speaking there? Do you know?
In the begining there is the word and the word is God and dwells among us.
Who is the word?

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(26-05-2025, 10:00 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Whatever. 

If the Jews attack us, they are foes. If they don't, they are not foes if Jizya is collected. It's as simple as that.

Aren't you able to formulate your own argument instead of parroting?

We don't collect jizya in Israel.
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(26-05-2025, 09:45 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Our Shahadah is known as Shahadatain, meaning two Shahadah. One is to testify tauhid and the other is to testify that Muhammad صلي الله عليه وسلم is God's messenger.

Is that clearer for you now?

Allah only ask for one shahada..who ask for the 2nd shahada? You declare the first part to God and the 2nd one to man...you are playing them on equal terms..

Quran 3:18, part of Surah Ali 'Imran, is considered a Shahada, or declaration of faith, in Islam. This is the true shahada...nothing else should be added Tongue

God bears witness that there is no deity except Him, and [so do] the angels and those of knowledge who uphold justice: 'There is no deity except Him, the Almighty, the All-Wise.'" (Quran, 3:18)
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(26-05-2025, 10:03 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Aren't you able to formulate your own argument instead of parroting?

We don't collect jizya in Israel.

I am trying to be a hafiz that likes to distort the original texts Big Grin
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(26-05-2025, 10:05 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Allah only ask for one shahada..who ask for the 2nd shahada? You declare the first part to God and the 2nd one to man...you are playing them on equal terms..

Quran 3:18, part of Surah Ali 'Imran, is considered a Shahada, or declaration of faith, in Islam. This is the true shahada...nothing else should be added Tongue

God bears witness that there is no deity except Him, and [so do] the angels and those of knowledge who uphold justice: 'There is no deity except Him, the Almighty, the All-Wise.'" (Quran, 3:18)

Allah also says Muhammad صلي الله عليه وسلم is the messenger, and we affirm it in the second shahadah.
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https://youtu.be/iE7zXa-zeQ0?si=7zfws8bKHHECqoGJ

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(26-05-2025, 10:10 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Allah also says Muhammad صلي الله عليه وسلم is the messenger, and we affirm it in the second shahadah.

Look out for the omission

This one left out shahada 2nd part
Q2:163:

"And your god is one God. There is no god but He, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful."


This one left out the first shahada 

 in another passage, God said:

"مُّحَمَّدٌۭ رَّسُولُ ٱللَّهِ ۚ"

"Muḥammad is a messenger of God..." (48:29)
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(26-05-2025, 10:20 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Look out for the omission

This one left out shahada 2nd part
Q2:163:

"And your god is one God. There is no god but He, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful."


This one left out the first shahada 

 in another passage, God said:

"مُّحَمَّدٌۭ رَّسُولُ ٱللَّهِ ۚ"

"Muḥammad is a messenger of God..." (48:29)

OMG

Pinky is the first man in the history of Islam to ever prove Islam is false. That's it. No more Islam from today.
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(26-05-2025, 10:33 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  OMG

Pinky is the first man in the history of Islam to ever prove Islam is false. That's it. No more Islam from today.

Stop mocking!

What is the explanation?
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(26-05-2025, 10:53 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Stop mocking!

What is the explanation?

The twin shahadahs are found in the Quran.

You already found it.
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(26-05-2025, 10:33 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  OMG

Pinky is the first man in the history of Islam to ever prove Islam is false. That's it. No more Islam from today.
Wow why like that?
Pink is teaching us the truth about Islam should thank him instead

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(26-05-2025, 10:02 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  In the begining there is the word and the word is God and dwells among us.
Who is the word?

Deuteronomy first.

I, and I alone, am God; no other god is real. I kill and I give life, I wound and I heal, and no one can oppose what I do.

Q: Who is the "I" there? 
A: The Father. 

Q: Why did the Father make it clear right from the very beginning that He alone is God? 
A: So that we know to reject satan who will want to mislead us by making us take some others as God.
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(26-05-2025, 11:42 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Wow why like that?
Pink is teaching us the truth about Islam should thank him instead

What makes you think Pink knows the truth about Islam?
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(26-05-2025, 11:47 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Deuteronomy first.

I, and I alone, am God; no other god is real. I kill and I give life, I wound and I heal, and no one can oppose what I do.

Q: Who is the "I" there? 
A: The Father. 

Q: Why did the Father make it clear right from the very beginning that He alone is God? 
A: So that we know to reject satan who will want to mislead us by making us take some others as God.

“Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me?

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(26-05-2025, 11:48 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  What makes you think Pink knows the truth about Islam?
He knows better than you that is why u want to stop debating

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(26-05-2025, 10:56 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  The twin shahadahs are found in the Quran.

You already found it.

You know the definition of twins? The verses that I quoted are different. If you line up the 1st and 2nd shahada together..that is twins!
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(26-05-2025, 12:04 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  He knows better than you that is why u want to stop debating

You need to be honest. God is watching us here and God knows you're being dishonest.
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(26-05-2025, 11:42 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Wow why like that?
Pink is teaching us the truth about Islam should thank him instead

Yes, his Islamic knowledge has improved with my input....I am his teacher..no need for the thanks  Big Grin
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(26-05-2025, 12:18 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  You know the definition of twins? The verses that I quoted are different. If you line up the 1st and 2nd shahada together..that is twins!

In conclusion, both the Shahadah can be found in the Quran in explicit and unambiguous verses.
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(26-05-2025, 12:03 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  “Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me?

A good rebuke...
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(26-05-2025, 12:03 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  “Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me?

The disciples will also be in Jesus and the Father. Jesus said so.

So, are the disciples also gods?
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(26-05-2025, 12:19 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  You need to be honest. God is watching us here and God knows you're being dishonest.
How u know 
Are u God?
U mock our Bible
But we can’t disclose what is in your book?

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(26-05-2025, 12:47 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  How u know 
Are u God?
U mock our Bible
But we can’t disclose what is in your book?

God is ever watching.. I'm sure you believe that as well.

I don't mock. I ask questions and I give arguments.

Did Jesus say the disciples will also be in Jesus and the Father?
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If your Islam is true why moslems have no visions and revelations from your god?

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(26-05-2025, 12:47 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  How u know 
Are u God?
U mock our Bible
But we can’t disclose what is in your book?

Disclose? What are you saying?
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(26-05-2025, 12:50 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  If your Islam is true why moslems have  no visions and revelations from your god?

Is that your criteria for the truth? Must have visions?

We believe the Quran is the final revelation from God. So what are you saying no revelations?
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(26-05-2025, 12:50 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  God is ever watching.. I'm sure you believe that as well.

I don't mock. I ask questions and I give arguments.

Did Jesus say the disciples will also be in Jesus and the Father?

U are mocking Jesus is not God
U also
Mock trinity as well 
It’s very serious u better zip mouth!
U are a flickled minded person 
One moment good manner
Next moment bad behavior 
One moment called us pengyu
Next moment treat us like enemies 
If you can’t debate anymore just go away  Rotfl

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(26-05-2025, 12:54 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Is that your criteria for the truth? Must have visions?

We believe the Quran is the final revelation from God. So what are you saying no revelations?

That is not the answer

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(26-05-2025, 12:52 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Disclose? What are you saying?

What was written in your book that raise eyebrows

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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U bad mood today moslem.
Don’t debate anymore u can’t win the truth
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 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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