[Ali Imran]

Show me one moslem scholar who had spoken against the prophet and not face any punishment...you can't!

Argument from silence. That's a fallacy.

[pinkpanther]

LOL

Seriously? Did you engage your brain before saying that?

These people are exactly the same people who told Muhammad that the shooting stars are missiles targeting the devil 

[pinkpanther]

Argument from silence. That's a fallacy.

Just show me the plight of a moslem scholar who spoke against the prophet...there is no freedom of speech in islam...

[Ali Imran]

These people are exactly the same people who told Muhammad that the shooting stars are missiles targeting the devil 

That again, using a wrong interpretation. 

Anyhow, which of his friends knew the universe is expanding? Mankind didn't know the universe is expanding until the 20th century.

[Ali Imran]

Just show me the plight of a moslem scholar who spoke against the prophet...there is no freedom of speech in islam...

Muslim scholars? None.

[pinkpanther]

That again, using a wrong interpretation. 

Anyhow, which of his friends knew the universe is expanding? Mankind didn't know the universe is expanding until the 20th century.

So what was his explanation for the expansion? Did he go into details? Look it could be a good guess, it could be from some one he knew

[pinkpanther]

Muslim scholars? None.

Why? Because of persecution!! That is the fact

[pinkpanther]

That again, using a wrong interpretation. 

Anyhow, which of his friends knew the universe is expanding? Mankind didn't know the universe is expanding until the 20th century.

even a broken clock is right twice a day

[Ali Imran]

even a broken clock is right twice a day

Yeah sure.

That means you didn't engage your brain.

[Ali Imran]

Why? Because of persecution!! That is the fact

So, an argument from silence.

[Ali Imran]

So what was his explanation for the expansion? Did he go into details? Look it could be a good guess, it could be from some one he knew

How could Muhammad صلي الله عليه وسلم possibly know the reason for the expansion of the universe? 

But the information given is accurate. And also the following verse after that, where it says that every living thing has its origin from water. No one knew that at that time. Another lucky guess?

[pinkpanther]

So, an argument from silence.

Yasir Qadhi

https://muslimseekers.com/islamic-schola...the-quran/

[pinkpanther]

How could Muhammad صلي الله عليه وسلم possibly know the reason for the expansion of the universe? 

But the information given is accurate. And also the following verse after that, where it says that every living thing has its origin from water. No one knew that at that time. Another lucky guess?

Life coming from water is a recurring theme in many ancient mythologies long before Muhammad

[Ali Imran]

Yasir Qadhi

https://muslimseekers.com/islamic-schola...the-quran/

Was he killed or punished as you said earlier?

[Ali Imran]

Life coming from water is a recurring theme in many ancient mythologies long before Muhammad

Show me one.

[pinkpanther]

Yeah sure.

That means you didn't engage your brain.

You are so gullible
Are they also like Muhammad?

Yes, science fiction writers and inventors have envisioned devices with touch-sensitive screens long before their actual widespread adoption. While the specific technology and its implementation have evolved, the concept of interacting with a device through touch is not new. For example, Nikola Tesla, in 1901, predicted wireless communication devices that bear some resemblance to modern cell phones. Additionally, the idea of a "smart tablet" with pen input was featured in Dick Tracy comic strips as early as the 1940s

[Ali Imran]

You are so gullible
Are they also like Muhammad?

Yes, science fiction writers and inventors have envisioned devices with touch-sensitive screens long before their actual widespread adoption. While the specific technology and its implementation have evolved, the concept of interacting with a device through touch is not new. For example, Nikola Tesla, in 1901, predicted wireless communication devices that bear some resemblance to modern cell phones. Additionally, the idea of a "smart tablet" with pen input was featured in Dick Tracy comic strips as early as the 1940s

One is the 20th century and the other is the 7th century.

LOL

[pinkpanther]

Show me one.

 is your brain working fine?
Cultural Significance:
Water is not just a physical necessity; it also holds deep cultural and spiritual significance, often associated with purity, cleansing, and renewal. This symbolism further reinforces its role in creation myths. 

Examples include the Babylonian myth of Tiamat, the Greek myth of Oceanus, and various Indigenous Australian creation stories. 

[pinkpanther]

AI Overview


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Yes, the idea of life originating from or being closely connected to water is a recurring motif in many ancient mythologies, predating Islam. This theme is found in various cultures across the globe, reflecting a deep-seated human understanding of water's vital role in sustaining life.

[pinkpanther]

One is the 20th century and the other is the 7th century.

LOL

A broken clock is right twice a day

[Ali Imran]

AI Overview


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Yes, the idea of life originating from or being closely connected to water is a recurring motif in many ancient mythologies, predating Islam. This theme is found in various cultures across the globe, reflecting a deep-seated human understanding of water's vital role in sustaining life.

Show me one where it says EVERY living thing originates from water.

[pinkpanther]

Show me one where it says EVERY living thing originates from water.

It already said the idea of  life originating from the water...

Every living thing imply life itself ...can you understand simple English?

[Ali Imran]

It already said the idea of  life originating from the water...

Every living thing imply life itself ...can you understand simple English?

So you cannot show me even one.

Ok noted.

[pinkpanther]

So you cannot show me even one.

Ok noted.

Already showed you..

[Ali Imran]

Already showed you..

No, you didn't show me even one.

[pinkpanther]

No, you didn't show me even one.

Symbolism of Life:

Water is often depicted as a source of life, purification, and renewal, reflecting its vital role in sustaining all living things.

Global Examples:
Ancient Greece: The myth of the primordial ocean, Oceanus, and the life-giving properties of water are prominent.

Hinduism: Water is considered sacred and is associated with creation, with deities like Vishnu often depicted reclining on the cosmic waters.
Judaism: 

The concept of "living water" (mayim chaim) is central to Jewish rituals and symbolizes purification and spiritual connection.

Buddhism: Water symbolizes purity, clarity, and the cleansing of the mind, aligning with the Buddhist emphasis on purification and enlightenment.

Babylonian Mythology: Ishtar's descent to the underworld to retrieve Tammuz and her sprinkling with the Water of Life is a story of renewal and resurrection.

This widespread motif underscores the deep-seated human understanding of water's fundamental role in the origin and continuation of life.

[Ali Imran]

Symbolism of Life:

Water is often depicted as a source of life, purification, and renewal, reflecting its vital role in sustaining all living things.

Global Examples:
Ancient Greece: The myth of the primordial ocean, Oceanus, and the life-giving properties of water are prominent.

Hinduism: Water is considered sacred and is associated with creation, with deities like Vishnu often depicted reclining on the cosmic waters.
Judaism: 

The concept of "living water" (mayim chaim) is central to Jewish rituals and symbolizes purification and spiritual connection.

Buddhism: Water symbolizes purity, clarity, and the cleansing of the mind, aligning with the Buddhist emphasis on purification and enlightenment.

Babylonian Mythology: Ishtar's descent to the underworld to retrieve Tammuz and her sprinkling with the Water of Life is a story of renewal and resurrection.

This widespread motif underscores the deep-seated human understanding of water's fundamental role in the origin and continuation of life.

Did any of that says "EVERY living thing created from water"? None at all.

So, a broken clock that tells the time accurately every time is indeed a miracle.

[pinkpanther]

Did any of that says "EVERY living thing created from water"? None at all.

So, a broken clock that tells the time accurately every time is indeed a miracle.

Muhammad knew about it long before and it wasn't divine relevation...let us not kid ourselves..
 Babylonian Mythology:
In the Enuma Elish, Abzu (groundwater) and Tiamat (saltwater) are the source of all things.

[Ali Imran]

Muhammad knew about it long before and it wasn't divine relevation...let us not kid ourselves..
 Babylonian Mythology:
In the Enuma Elish, Abzu (groundwater) and Tiamat (saltwater) are the source of all things.

Do you think there was google at that time? Or a library there? 

LOL

[pinkpanther]

Do you think there was google at that time? Or a library there? 

LOL

There were libraries before Muhammad's time...people read, information spreads