Scripture readings for Christmas

(Yesterday, 12:14 PM)Hope Wrote:  Why should we destroy your belief?We can’t destroy if your belief is strong.

We don’t gain anything.

We are sharing our beliefs about Jesus, David, Moses, Jacob, Issac, Abraham and their God.
U are sharing lies lol

As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
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(Yesterday, 12:11 PM)Hope Wrote:  Quran was not eaten by goat.

When Quran verse was revealed, it was memorised and written simultaneously.

Nothing can be lost.

Don’t pretend u don’t know
The world knows about it 
Internet spreads fast
The claim that a sheep ate parts of the Quran is based on a specific hadith (an account of the Prophet Muhammad's teachings and actions) narrated by Aisha, one of the Prophet's wives. The hadith suggests that a verse about stoning and breastfeeding an adult was revealed, written down, and then eaten by a sheep. However, this hadith is not universally accepted and is considered problematic by some scholars, particularly those who emphasize the Quran's perfect preservation.
Here's a more detailed explanation:
The Hadith:
The hadith in question, found in Sunan ibn Majah, states that the verse was written down and kept under Aisha's pillow. A sheep then entered and ate the paper containing the verse.
Contradiction:
Some Muslims find this story problematic because the Quran is believed to be perfectly preserved by Allah. If a verse was eaten, it raises questions about the completeness and reliability of the Quran.
Scholarly Perspectives:
Some scholars argue that the hadith is weak or not authentic, suggesting that the verse may have been abrogated (meaning it was replaced by another verse) rather than physically lost.

As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
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(Yesterday, 10:01 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Twist again u refuse to accept the truth

First, you agree that God is not a man.

Then you twisted and say a man is God.

Is that the truth you want me to accept?
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(Yesterday, 12:46 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Don’t pretend u don’t know
The world knows about it 
Internet spreads fast
The claim that a sheep ate parts of the Quran is based on a specific hadith (an account of the Prophet Muhammad's teachings and actions) narrated by Aisha, one of the Prophet's wives. The hadith suggests that a verse about stoning and breastfeeding an adult was revealed, written down, and then eaten by a sheep. However, this hadith is not universally accepted and is considered problematic by some scholars, particularly those who emphasize the Quran's perfect preservation.
Here's a more detailed explanation:
The Hadith:
The hadith in question, found in Sunan ibn Majah, states that the verse was written down and kept under Aisha's pillow. A sheep then entered and ate the paper containing the verse.
Contradiction:
Some Muslims find this story problematic because the Quran is believed to be perfectly preserved by Allah. If a verse was eaten, it raises questions about the completeness and reliability of the Quran.
Scholarly Perspectives:
Some scholars argue that the hadith is weak or not authentic, suggesting that the verse may have been abrogated (meaning it was replaced by another verse) rather than physically lost.



There is no one on the face of the earth more ignorant than one who thinks that the prophet and the his companions were all careless with regard to the Quran and that they would not memorise it and learn it by heart, and that they would rely for confirming it on a sheet that was placed under the bed of ‘Aishah only, a sheet that was thrown on the floor and disrespected, until the neighbourhood goat came in and ate it, resulting in the loss of that sheet and whatever was written on it!
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(Yesterday, 12:44 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  U are sharing lies lol

If we say “ God is one “, is it a lie?

If we say “ Jesus was a prophet like all 80+ prophets mentioned in the bible “. Is it a lie?

If we say “ Jesus ate food like any other human “ is it a lie?

If we say “ Jesus earned money to buy food “, is it a lie?
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(Yesterday, 12:21 PM)Hope Wrote:  Why should he dwell in the womb for 280 days like other humans?

As a person who performed so many miracles even in his own conception,Why couldn’t he do another miracle to shorten the period in the womb?

280 days are like one school academic year .

(Yesterday, 12:41 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Who are you to suggest what should be to God ?   Laughing


I am not suggesting anything.
Why should your God stay in the womb for 280 days like any other human?
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(Yesterday, 10:49 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Ok .your Quran always never mention anything..it always leave you clueless ...

Jacob is trying to secure God's blessing through wrestling...this is written in the Torah and gospel confirmed by Jesus and Muhammad....why is your Quran not showing? Big Grin

Jacob was blessed even before his birth. Remember his grandfather father was promised great nations?

He was blessed with few wives and 13 children.

He was blessed with the title “ Israel “

He was bless with 12 tribes .

He was blessed with Josheph.

Why should he wrestle to get blessings again ?
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(Yesterday, 06:00 PM)Hope Wrote:  There is no one on the face of the earth more ignorant than one who thinks that the prophet and the his companions were all careless with regard to the Quran and that they would not memorise it and learn it by heart, and that they would rely for confirming it on a sheet that was placed under the bed of ‘Aishah only, a sheet that was thrown on the floor and disrespected, until the neighbourhood goat came in and ate it, resulting in the loss of that sheet and whatever was written on it!

Did Allah ask Muhammad to memorise this Quranic verse? Is this a revelation?

Quran 33:53
O believers! Do not enter the homes of the Prophet without permission ˹and if invited˺ for a meal, do not ˹come too early and˺ linger until the meal is ready. But if you are invited, then enter ˹on time˺. Once you have eaten, then go on your way, and do not stay for casual talk. Such behaviour is truly annoying to the Prophet, yet he is too shy to ask you to leave. But Allah is never shy of the truth. And when you ˹believers˺ ask his wives for something, ask them from behind a barrier. This is purer for your hearts and theirs. And it is not right for you to annoy the Messenger of Allah, nor ever marry his wives after him. This would certainly be a major offence in the sight of Allah.
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(Yesterday, 10:52 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Our true God has many testimonies, Jesus is alive, moslems dream about Jesus, the Holy spirit is around...

I like to ask you where is the evidences of Allah?
It is better for you to believe in aliens because you might just find a piece of evidence from the Americans but you will have no chance of an evidence to prove the existent of Allah

Everything around you  proves the existence of Allah.

From conception to death what ever you enjoy comes from Allah.
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(Yesterday, 06:25 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Did Allah ask Muhammad to memorise this Quranic verse? Is this a revelation?

Quran 33:53
O believers! Do not enter the homes of the Prophet without permission ˹and if invited˺ for a meal, do not ˹come too early and˺ linger until the meal is ready. But if you are invited, then enter ˹on time˺. Once you have eaten, then go on your way, and do not stay for casual talk. Such behaviour is truly annoying to the Prophet, yet he is too shy to ask you to leave. But Allah is never shy of the truth. And when you ˹believers˺ ask his wives for something, ask them from behind a barrier. This is purer for your hearts and theirs. And it is not right for you to annoy the Messenger of Allah, nor ever marry his wives after him. This would certainly be a major offence in the sight of Allah.

Yes, it is a revelation from Allah. Every single verse in the Quran is a revelation from Allah. We believe that 100%, without a shred of doubt.
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(Yesterday, 06:25 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Did Allah ask Muhammad to memorise this Quranic verse? Is this a revelation?

Quran 33:53
O believers! Do not enter the homes of the Prophet without permission ˹and if invited˺ for a meal, do not ˹come too early and˺ linger until the meal is ready. But if you are invited, then enter ˹on time˺. Once you have eaten, then go on your way, and do not stay for casual talk. Such behaviour is truly annoying to the Prophet, yet he is too shy to ask you to leave. But Allah is never shy of the truth. And when you ˹believers˺ ask his wives for something, ask them from behind a barrier. This is purer for your hearts and theirs. And it is not right for you to annoy the Messenger of Allah, nor ever marry his wives after him. This would certainly be a major offence in the sight of Allah.

Yes, it is a revelation from Allah. Every single verse in the Quran is a revelation from Allah. We believe that 100%, without a shred of doubt.

Do you have the same level of faith in the Bible?
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(Yesterday, 06:19 PM)Hope Wrote:  Jacob was blessed even before his birth. Remember his grandfather father was promised great nations?

He was blessed with few wives and 13 children.

He was blessed with the title “ Israel “

He was bless with 12 tribes .

He was blessed with Josheph.

Why should he wrestle to get blessings again ?

Jacob was not a good person at first and he wants to change that so he wrestle with God with determination and faith just to receive His blessings...

The Quran will never teach you a lesson on persistent, determination and faith from this story...what the Quran tells you to eat till you are full and get ready to leave the home of Muhammad because he is a shy person
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(Yesterday, 06:31 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Yes, it is a revelation from Allah. Every single verse in the Quran is a revelation from Allah. We believe that 100%, without a shred of doubt.

This is not a revelation..this is a question and answer you will find back in the 90s under "The Newpaper" directed to Aunty Abigail!
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(Yesterday, 06:10 PM)Hope Wrote:  I am not suggesting anything.
Why should your God stay in the womb for 280 days like any other human?
Since He was born a human needs to follow human production process 
Born as a human die as a human n resurrect up as God to prove that He is God in the flesh.

As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
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(Yesterday, 10:59 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Their Allah remains a mystery 
No sound no pic

(Yesterday, 11:06 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Ya...like in a hiding
Have you seen father in the heaven and Jesus in person?

We Muslims almost 1/3 of the world population still believe in unseen.It is the main difference we have between us.



This is the Book! There is no doubt about it—a guide for those mindful ˹of Allah

who believe in the unseen,establish prayer, and donate from what We have provided for them,

and who believe in what has been revealed to you ˹O Prophet˺ and what was revealed before you, and have sure faith in the Hereafter.

It is they who are ˹truly˺ guided by their Lord, and it is they who will be successful.

As for those who persist in disbelief, it is the same whether you warn them or not—they will never believe.”Quran 2:2-6
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(Yesterday, 06:39 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  This is not a revelation..this is a question and answer you will find back in the 90s under "The Newpaper" directed to Aunty Abigail!

We believe it is a revelation from Allah. If you don't believe it, it doesn't make it false.
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(Yesterday, 06:55 PM)Hope Wrote:  Have you seen father in the heaven and Jesus in person?

We Muslims almost 1/3 of the world population still believe in unseen.It is the main difference we have between us.



This is the Book! There is no doubt about it—a guide for those mindful ˹of Allah

who believe in the unseen,establish prayer, and donate from what We have provided for them,

and who believe in what has been revealed to you ˹O Prophet˺ and what was revealed before you, and have sure faith in the Hereafter.

It is they who are ˹truly˺ guided by their Lord, and it is they who will be successful.

As for those who persist in disbelief, it is the same whether you warn them or not—they will never believe.”Quran 2:2-6
Yes I have seen Jesus face to face numerous times since as a kid 
This is no joke
many people saw Him not only me.

As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
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(Yesterday, 06:55 PM)Hope Wrote:  Have you seen father in the heaven and Jesus in person?

We Muslims almost 1/3 of the world population still believe in unseen.It is the main difference we have between us.



This is the Book! There is no doubt about it—a guide for those mindful ˹of Allah

who believe in the unseen,establish prayer, and donate from what We have provided for them,

and who believe in what has been revealed to you ˹O Prophet˺ and what was revealed before you, and have sure faith in the Hereafter.

It is they who are ˹truly˺ guided by their Lord, and it is they who will be successful.

As for those who persist in disbelief, it is the same whether you warn them or not—they will never believe.”Quran 2:2-6
Yes I have seen Jesus face to face numerous times since as a kid 
This is no joke
many people saw Him not only me.

As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
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(Yesterday, 06:57 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  We believe it is a revelation from Allah. If you don't believe it, it doesn't make it false.

It is irrelevant because Muhammad is no longer around and you will never get the chance to have a meal with him
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(Yesterday, 11:09 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  If I enter the mosque I will be a traitor to my God
No thanks
The only mosque I entered once was an abandoned old mosque to take a look what was inside

Singaporean regardless of their religion are allowed to enter any mosque during 5AM to 10PM

There are few mosques which have been gazetted as Singapore heritage sites allow tourists to enter during 10-12 and 2-4 .

The mosque in Arab streets is a heritage site which attracts thousands of visitors except on Friday.

Visiting a mosque doesn’t betray your God.Nobody there preach Islam or  force you to convert.No one will ask you to wear like a Malay.

You may feel comfortable visiting this mosque with tourists . I suggest you to visit during 2-4 seasons.
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(Yesterday, 03:58 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  First, you agree that God is not a man.

Then you twisted and say a man is God.

Is that the truth you want me to accept?
I didn’t twist u twisted
God at first is not a man 
Later He becomes a man n dwells among man to fulfilll His mission on earth 
after mission completed He ascended to heaven with many people as witness 
Can your prophet a man do that?

As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
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Really tedious explaining to the 2 abdools.
if I don’t explain they will call me names
lol

As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
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Explained so many times to their repeated questions
Still catch no balls
small kid easy to understand not old people

As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
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(Yesterday, 07:09 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  I didn’t twist u twisted
God at first is not a man 
Later He becomes a man n dwells among man to fulfilll His mission on earth 
after mission completed He ascended to heaven with many people as witness 
Can your prophet a man do that?

So you believe God at first was not a man, and later, he changed to a man.

That is another contradiction because Malachi 3 says God does not change.
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(Yesterday, 07:06 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  It is irrelevant because Muhammad is no longer around and you will never get the chance to have a meal with him

It is very relevant. We learn how to be a gracious host and a polite visitor.
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(Yesterday, 07:19 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  So you believe God at first was not a man, and later, he changed to a man.

That is another contradiction because Malachi 3 says God does not change.

Malachi 3 just further emphasize that the holy land must be return to the Israelites
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(Yesterday, 07:09 PM)Hope Wrote:  Singaporean regardless of their religion, They are allowed to enter any mosque during 5AM to 10PM

There are few mosques which have been gazetted as Singapore heritage sites allow tourists to enter during 10-12 and 2-4 .

The mosque in Arab streets is a heritage site which attracts thousands of visitors except Friday.

Visiting a mosque doesn’t betray your God.Noond there preach Islam or  force you to convert.No one will ask you to wear like a Malay.

You may feel comfortable visiting this mosque with tourists . I suggest you to visit during 2-4 seasons.
Nope I don’t even feel comfortable even to read the Koran n Hadith posted online 
Not interest..lol

As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
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(Yesterday, 07:23 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Malachi 3 just further emphasize that the holy land must be return to the Israelites

Ok. As soon as they accept Jesus as their Messiah.
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(Yesterday, 07:22 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  It is very relevant. We learn how to be a gracious host and a polite visitor.

That should be in the Hadiths..
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(Yesterday, 07:28 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  That should be in the Hadiths..

Ok noted.

So, you disbelieving it doesn't make it false.

What about Malachi 3 which says God does not change but you believe God changed into a man?
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