Scripture readings for Christmas

(10-08-2025, 10:32 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  If Allah knows what you are going to do next..that means you have no free will..you are just following His scripts...can His script change? No!

If you want to believe that you don't have the freedom of choice, I will not argue. Go ahead and be a robot.
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(10-08-2025, 10:36 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Why do you blame God's chosen? Why do you blame the Christians? Why do you blame the media? Why do you blame those who help? Why do you blame us for giving you our honest opinions when it is most easy for you to put the blame on your beliefs!

I don't blame God for the evil men chose to do.

But you constantly putting the blame on God for that.
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(10-08-2025, 10:36 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  If you want to believe that you don't have the freedom of choice, I will not argue. Go ahead and be a robot.

Since when does Islam gives free will?
The gift of the free will is a death penalty! people died trying to free themselves from Islam..leaving Islam is punishable!
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(10-08-2025, 10:38 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I don't blame God for the evil men chose to do.

But you constantly putting the blame on God for that.

You're not blaming God because you're not in Gaza... but if your family were wiped out in the war, you'd feel helpless and unable to blame those you consider responsible....you can only blame your beliefs!
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(10-08-2025, 10:38 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I don't blame God for the evil men chose to do.

But you constantly putting the blame on God for that.

i want you to be judged by your own double standards

Do you thank God for what He had given you in life like wealth, health and family or do you thanks the men?
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(10-08-2025, 10:38 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I don't blame God for the evil men chose to do.

But you constantly putting the blame on God for that.

it's logically inconsistent to thank God for good things but not blame God for bad things, as it implies a selective attribution of responsibility
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(10-08-2025, 10:36 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Why do you blame God's chosen? Why do you blame the Christians? Why do you blame the media? Why do you blame those who help? Why do you blame us for giving you our honest opinions when it is most easy for you to put the blame on your beliefs!
Because he is not one of us

As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
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(10-08-2025, 10:38 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I don't blame God for the evil men chose to do.

But you constantly putting the blame on God for that.
Then why you come out with number 31?
to use it to blame God what else it’s in your mind
U are a Wolf in sheep clothing

As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
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(10-08-2025, 11:03 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Because he is not one of us

He has to make up his mind fast...cannot pray to the Father and Allah at the same time!
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(10-08-2025, 10:48 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  i want you to be judged by your own double standards

Do you thank God for what He had given you in life like wealth, health and family or do you thanks the men?

Those are not the evil men do.

You're equivocating and that is a fallacy.
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(10-08-2025, 11:21 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Those are not the evil men do.

You're equivocating and that is a fallacy.

It's logically inconsistent to attribute only positive outcomes to God while assigning blame for negative ones to other sources, such as human actions or chance...

So don be a hypocrite and push the blame to God's chosen!
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(10-08-2025, 10:51 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  it's logically inconsistent to thank God for good things but not blame God for bad things, as it implies a selective attribution of responsibility

Do you do that? Blame God for bad things that happened to you?
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(10-08-2025, 11:28 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Do you do that? Blame God for bad things that happened to you?

If you attribute all your blessings to God, you should also be fair when things don't go well...that's human nature. 

Most people thank God for their successes but never hold God responsible for their failures. That kind of inconsistency is hypocritical.

For me, I give thanks to God...and for failures, I give thanks....you should give thanks to the evil men! Try it!
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(10-08-2025, 11:16 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  He has to make up his mind fast...cannot pray to the Father and Allah at the same time!

Maybe wait until his last breath..

As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
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(10-08-2025, 11:21 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Those are not the evil men do.

You're equivocating and that is a fallacy.

The evil men are the descendants of Jacob...God had a convenant with His people...God blessed them but you call them evil?
you belong to the descendants of  the Ishmaelites who worship false God Laughing

Nowadays you like to misquote and misrepresent me..
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(10-08-2025, 10:19 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Jesus have his own will and he, being a Muslim, submits to the will of God.

So you're wrong to say Jesus will is the same as God's will.

John 4:34 reads: "Jesus said to them, 'My food is to do the will of him who sent me and to accomplish his work

You believe that Jesus was sent for Bani Israel, but why did Allah allow Jesus' injil to be lost? Why did Allah create Him to be sinless, then cause a substitute to replace Jesus, and finally have Him unalive?

In summary, Muhammad didn't like Jesus...he is not respectful to Jesus!
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There’s no reason to trust the Quran
The late Christian apologist Nabeel Qureshi said he converted from Islam because he asked himself, “What reason is there to stand by the koranic claims about Jesus when all the other records disagree? The Quran was written 600 years after Jesus and 600 miles away. The only reason to believe the Quran is an a priori faith in Islam.” In his analysis of all the nonbiblical references to Jesus, Robert Van Voorst concludes of the Quran, “Scholarship has almost unanimously agreed that these references to Jesus are so late and tendentious as to contain virtually nothing of value for understanding the historical Jesus” (Jesus Outside the New Testament, 17).
In other words, because the Quran is so far removed from the historical events it purports to describe, the only reason to trust its testimony would be if it were the inspired word of God. But Muhammad never claimed to have performed any miracles that would vindicate his prophetic claims, so there is no reason to believe the Quran is inspired.
The Quran even admits that no sign or miracle had been given to confirm Muhammad’s message. Sura (Quran verse) 13:7 says, “[T]hose who disbelieved say, ‘Why has a sign not been sent down to him from his Lord?’”, to which God tells Muhammad, “You are only a warner, and for every people is a guide.”
The Quran does offer one proof for the validity of its own testimony. Sura 2:23 says, “If you are in doubt about what we have sent down upon Our Servant [Muhammad], then produce a sura the like thereof and call upon your witnesses other than Allah, if you should be truthful.” In other words, “If you don’t trust the Quran, try to write something better.”
Muslim scholar Meraj Ahmad describes this “argument from literary eloquence” this way: “[N]o one has been able to imitate [the Quran’s] unique literary form. [What] makes the Quran a miracle is that it lies outside the productive capacity of the nature of the Arabic language and literature” (“Literary Miracle of the Quran”).
Does it follow that just because something can’t be imitated it must have a divine origin? The works of Shakespeare or Dostoevsky are unique and inimitable, but that doesn’t mean God dictated them.

As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
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(10-08-2025, 02:37 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  John 4:34 reads: "Jesus said to them, 'My food is to do the will of him who sent me and to accomplish his work

You believe that Jesus was sent for Bani Israel, but why did Allah allow Jesus' injil to be lost? Why did Allah create Him to be sinless, then cause a substitute to replace Jesus, and finally have Him unalive?

In summary, Muhammad didn't like Jesus...he is not respectful to Jesus!

Same as pachik also don’t like Christians

As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
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Wow France also closed 1/3 of mosques 
https://youtu.be/SsI4R5QMt74?si=vLhIkyJYBXvAvbsk

As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
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(10-08-2025, 02:02 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  The evil men are the descendants of Jacob...God had a convenant with His people...God blessed them but you call them evil?
you belong to the descendants of  the Ishmaelites who worship false God Laughing

Nowadays you like to misquote and misrepresent me..

The people who tried to kill the son of Mary, pbuh, are they good or bad people?
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(10-08-2025, 11:39 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  If you attribute all your blessings to God, you should also be fair when things don't go well...that's human nature. 

Most people thank God for their successes but never hold God responsible for their failures. That kind of inconsistency is hypocritical.

For me, I give thanks to God...and for failures, I give thanks....you should give thanks to the evil men! Try it!

You can go ahead and be thankful to evil men should do they harm to you.
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(10-08-2025, 02:37 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  John 4:34 reads: "Jesus said to them, 'My food is to do the will of him who sent me and to accomplish his work

So not the same will huh?
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(10-08-2025, 11:05 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Then why you come out with number 31?
to use it to blame God what else it’s in your mind
U are a Wolf in sheep clothing

You forgot why I brought out that verse in Numbers 31? It wasn't to blame God. It was to show your ignorance.
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https://youtu.be/yJnRDTbH8bc

As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
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(10-08-2025, 04:13 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  You forgot why I brought out that verse in Numbers 31? It wasn't to blame God. It was to show your ignorance.

u already showed the verse so many times not once
it’s not related to my replies.

As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
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(09-08-2025, 05:47 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Moses and king David did not capture woman and use them as sex slaves or sell them cannot compare to your muh

Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known a man by sleeping with him. But all the young girls who have not known a man by sleeping with him, keep alive for yourselves. - Numbers 31
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(10-08-2025, 04:40 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  u already showed the verse so many times not once
it’s not related to my replies.

There, I repost it again. Read your post and you will understand why I replied with that verse in Numbers 31.
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(10-08-2025, 04:10 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  The people who tried to kill the son of Mary, pbuh, are they good or bad people?

They might try but the one who really unalive the son of Mary is none other than who? Yes..Your God!! You said they are evil and I can say that about your almighty too!
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(10-08-2025, 11:21 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Those are not the evil men do.

You're equivocating and that is a fallacy.
those evils what your prophet did ?

As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
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(10-08-2025, 04:11 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  You can go ahead and be thankful to evil men should do they harm to you.

why should they mess with us? We have never taken their land...we are not interested in the land...you and the Jews can die fighting it for generations...

We prefer peace over land claims!
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