Scripture readings for Christmas

(21-08-2025, 10:02 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  The Quran is protected from tampering. 

If you would like to know more, you may ask me. I will do my best to answer your question.
Proof it that it’s not been tampered
U never answer my questions correctly but called me names

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(21-08-2025, 11:43 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Your Koran also written many years later after your muh death

That is not true.

The Quran was completed and preserved before the death of Prophet Muhammad صلي الله عليه وسلم.
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(21-08-2025, 12:04 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  That is not true.

The Quran was completed and preserved before the death of Prophet Muhammad صلي الله عليه وسلم.
After the  Prophet's death, his followers collected these written fragments and memorized versions to compile into the Quran 

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(21-08-2025, 01:03 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  After the  Prophet's death, his followers collected these written fragments and memorized versions to compile into the Quran 

Who told you that?
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(21-08-2025, 01:07 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Who told you that?

Can goggle and ask ..
Goggle won’t lie

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(21-08-2025, 01:19 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Can goggle and ask ..
Goggle won’t lie

LOL

Who wrote in Google?
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(21-08-2025, 01:21 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  LOL

Who wrote in Google?


The Quran was revealed to the Prophet Muhammad between 610 CE and 632 CE, spanning approximately 23 years. It was initially transmitted orally as Muhammad recited the revelations, which were then written down by his followers.The text was compiled into a single volume after his death, with different versions circulating and eventually being standardized under the third caliph, Uthman, around 650 CE

The Quran was revealed to the Prophet Muhammad between 610 CE and 632 CE, spanning approximately 23 years. It was initially transmitted orally as Muhammad recited the revelations, which were then written down by his followers.The text was compiled into a single volume after his death, with different versions circulating and eventually being standardized under the third caliph, Uthman, around 650 CE

Different versions lol

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(21-08-2025, 01:24 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  The Quran was revealed to the Prophet Muhammad between 610 CE and 632 CE, spanning approximately 23 years. It was initially transmitted orally as Muhammad recited the revelations, which were then written down by his followers.The text was compiled into a single volume after his death, with different versions circulating and eventually being standardized under the third caliph, Uthman, around 650 CE

The Quran was revealed to the Prophet Muhammad between 610 CE and 632 CE, spanning approximately 23 years. It was initially transmitted orally as Muhammad recited the revelations, which were then written down by his followers.The text was compiled into a single volume after his death, with different versions circulating and eventually being standardized under the third caliph, Uthman, around 650 CE

Different versions lol

If there were different versions, how come there is only 1 now?
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(21-08-2025, 01:28 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  If there were different versions, how come there is only 1 now?
Despite caliph Uthman's reported work to standardize the Quran, and the belief by many Muslims that it "exists exactly as it had been revealed to the Prophet; not a word - nay, not a dot of it - has been changed" (Abul A'la Maududi), there are not one but ten different recognized versions of recitations of the Quran

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https://youtu.be/YqDQcvV4VSA?si=J4f0zI6zFThMlzO7

Who wrote the Koran ?

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(21-08-2025, 01:39 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Despite caliph Uthman's reported work to standardize the Quran, and the belief by many Muslims that it "exists exactly as it had been revealed to the Prophet; not a word - nay, not a dot of it - has been changed" (Abul A'la Maududi), there are not one but ten different recognized versions of recitations of the Quran

That is true. The Quran can be recited in multiple accents. An example similar to that in English would be 'tomato' and 'tomahto'.

There is only 1 Quran.
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(21-08-2025, 01:41 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  https://youtu.be/YqDQcvV4VSA?si=J4f0zI6zFThMlzO7

Who wrote the Koran ?

Is he a scholar?
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(21-08-2025, 01:50 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Is he a scholar?

Need to be a scholar to see the truth?

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(21-08-2025, 01:49 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  That is true. The Quran can be recited in multiple accents. An example similar to that in English would be 'tomato' and 'tomahto'.

There is only 1 Quran.
No!
More than 1
there are not one but ten different recognized versions of recitations of the Quran
U can’t proof that there is only 1 Koran

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The bible is the only true book

https://youtu.be/bLEYD_Flpww?si=baBzNPZqDAaOrSY7

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https://youtu.be/bLEYD_Flpww?si=baBzNPZqDAaOrSY7

The bible is the truth

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https://youtube.com/shorts/JvExttv8GNY?s..._VebAEG-Go

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(21-08-2025, 02:13 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  The bible is the only true book

https://youtu.be/bLEYD_Flpww?si=baBzNPZqDAaOrSY7

(21-08-2025, 02:15 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  https://youtu.be/bLEYD_Flpww?si=baBzNPZqDAaOrSY7

The bible is the truth

You're right lah! Big Grin Only the Bible is the truth lah!
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https://youtube.com/shorts/JDyqbMrlRjM?s...lCygqIeomD
Different korans something is wrong

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(21-08-2025, 08:51 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  There is only 1 Quran and we believe it is 100% the verbatim word of Allah.

Who wrote the Cairo edition of the Quran? Why do you take his interpretations and not Muhammad's interpretations?
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30 versions of Koran 

https://youtu.be/BYxxQQoYusI?si=xEtUYd4gt6S40Yap

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(21-08-2025, 08:30 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  So your "me, myself, and I", they all belong to 1 person. But you believe in 3 persons, all of whom are fully 100% Gods, albeit you group them and name it "1 God", correct?

Yes they share the same divine nature just like your children inherited your genes...
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https://youtu.be/nQPGm0qpSWk?si=ZQEjn6gZ9GfyBexB

Jesus explained the trinity to her after she died

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(21-08-2025, 02:03 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  No!
More than 1
there are not one but ten different recognized versions of recitations of the Quran
U can’t proof that there is only 1 Koran

Who knows better? You or the Muslim scholars?
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(21-08-2025, 02:33 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Who wrote the Cairo edition of the Quran? Why do you take his interpretations and not Muhammad's interpretations?

There were no changes to the content of the Quran, or the words of the Quran in the Cairo edition. We believe the Quran is 100% the words of Allah.
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(21-08-2025, 02:01 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Need to be a scholar to see the truth?

If you want to get a tutor to study the history of ancient Rome, would you check if he/she has the proper credentials to teach you about ancient Rome?
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(21-08-2025, 02:37 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Yes they share the same divine nature just like your children inherited your genes...

So there, its settled. You believe in 3 Gods.
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(21-08-2025, 03:31 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Who knows better? You or the Muslim scholars?

It’s happening now so who knows better ?

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(21-08-2025, 03:34 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  If you want to get a tutor to study the history of ancient Rome, would you check if he/she has the proper credentials to teach you about ancient Rome?
Of course not you

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(21-08-2025, 03:35 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  So there, its settled. You believe in 3 Gods.
N you believe a nameless god plus a man 1+1=2

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