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(03-06-2024, 08:30 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: Actually, we don't do our daily prayers because they energize us. We do it in obedience to God. It so happens to be energizing for me.
I though I better make that clear in case you think we do it for worldly benefit.
I know, the energising is side benefit which you gain unintentionally.
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(03-06-2024, 08:09 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: The washing alone is enough to refresh you. I'm sure you know we Muslims wash ourselves before every prayer.
PinkPanther, do you know that inn the book of Exodus, there is a command to wash oneself too?
Then the Lord said to Moses, “Make a bronze basin, with its bronze stand, for washing. Place it between the tent of meeting and the altar, and put water in it. Aaron and his sons are to wash their hands and feet with water from it. Whenever they enter the tent of meeting, they shall wash with water so that they will not die. - Exodus 30
Are you going to say this spiritual washing is exactly what a Muslim does before praying?
We no longer need a ritualistic washing with water to come before God, because Christ has provided purification for sins...
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(03-06-2024, 08:24 PM)Huliwang Wrote: The posture and movements of the prayer is used in many qigong and yoga exercise which is very energising. ![Big Grin Big Grin](https://sgtalk.net/images/smilies/biggrin.png)
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(03-06-2024, 08:54 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: Are you going to say this spiritual washing is exactly what a Muslim does before praying?
We no longer need a ritualistic washing with water to come before God, because Christ has provided purification for sins...
The goot Moslem, Yeshua pbuh, didn't wash when he pleaded with God to *rescue* him.
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(03-06-2024, 08:54 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: Are you going to say this spiritual washing is exactly what a Muslim does before praying?
We no longer need a ritualistic washing with water to come before God, because Christ has provided purification for sins...
We always end our prayers in Jesus' Name. It is through His Name that communion with God is restored and we can even say Heavenly Father.
And when we pray, we don't RECITE the Bible. Prayer is literally talking with God just like we talk to anyone else. We can tell God our worries and ask for His guidance and help. We also thank Him for his abundant blessings.
In the case of Ee Mun, his idea of praying is NOT talking to Allah but just reciting the Quran day after day. This is a big difference between the God of the Bible and the Allah of the Quran.
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(03-06-2024, 08:54 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: Are you going to say this spiritual washing is exactly what a Muslim does before praying?
We no longer need a ritualistic washing with water to come before God, because Christ has provided purification for sins...
Sometimes, I stare at the screen for like 5 minutes thinking of the right way to tell you what I see in your faith. After a while, I will finally give up and not write anything at all because no matter how I say it, it's gonna hurt you.
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(03-06-2024, 09:13 PM)Oyk Wrote: We always end our prayers in Jesus' Name. It is through His Name that communion with God is restored and we can even say Heavenly Father.
And when we pray, we don't RECITE the Bible. Prayer is literally talking with God just like we talk to anyone else. We can tell God our worries and ask for His guidance and help. We also thank Him for his abundant blessings.
In the case of Ee Mun, his idea of praying is NOT talking to Allah but just reciting the Quran day after day. This is a big difference between the God of the Bible and the Allah of the Quran.
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And if your English is not so goot, so chiu can't express yourself, verbalize your thoughts well in it, but are more proficient in speaking your mother tongue, Hokkien, then by all means speak (pray) to God in that language. And yes, you don't go and recite the Chinese Bible in Hokkien. That's not how Christians pray...also no need to die die pray (recite) in Arabic which you don't understand lorh.
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(03-06-2024, 09:14 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: Sometimes, I stare at the screen for like 5 minutes thinking of the right way to tell you what I see in your faith. After a while, I will finally give up and not write anything at all because no matter how I say it, it's gonna hurt you.
God's willing that you cannot proceed to write to hurt me with your words!
Allah stopped you isn't it!
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(03-06-2024, 09:13 PM)Oyk Wrote: We always end our prayers in Jesus' Name. It is through His Name that communion with God is restored and we can even say Heavenly Father.
And when we pray, we don't RECITE the Bible. Prayer is literally talking with God just like we talk to anyone else. We can tell God our worries and ask for His guidance and help. We also thank Him for his abundant blessings.
In the case of Ee Mun, his idea of praying is NOT talking to Allah but just reciting the Quran day after day. This is a big difference between the God of the Bible and the Allah of the Quran.
..there you have it Ah Lee...this is the proper prayer!
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(03-06-2024, 09:24 PM)Oyk Wrote: cont'd
And if your English is not so goot, so chiu can't express yourself, verbalize your thoughts well in it, but are more proficient in speaking your mother tongue, Hokkien, then by all means speak (pray) to God in that language. And yes, you don't go and recite the Chinese Bible in Hokkien. That's not how Christians pray...also no need to die die pray (recite) in Arabic which you don't understand lorh.
Hope can memorise the quran in Arabic...what a fantastic feat! But does he understand Arabic...you have to question him!...I took history during my sec school days..and I also can memorise all the paragraphs by hard without understanding anything!
Muslims recite the prayers and greet each other in arabic but somehow don know how to read and write Arabic.....this is quite weird! Why can't you be yourself...why do you have to pretend to speak a language that you don even bother to master!
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(03-06-2024, 09:42 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: ..there you have it Ah Lee...this is the proper prayer!
What about the Holy Spirit? What is his name? If you know his name, which you don't, should you also include his name?
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(03-06-2024, 10:13 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: Hope can memorise the quran in Arabic...what a fantastic feat! But does he understand Arabic...you have to question him!...I took history during my sec school days..and I also can memorise all the paragraphs by hard without understanding anything!
Why didn't you bother to understand it? I know you can pass your exam by just memorizing all the paragraphs but wouldn't it be better if you understand it too?
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(03-06-2024, 10:14 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: What about the Holy Spirit? What is his name? If you know his name, which you don't, should you also include his name?
What do you think is his name? You participated in those religious forum since the 90s...
This small knowledge you should know right....who are you kidding pretending to be a bergin
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(03-06-2024, 10:18 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: Why didn't you bother to understand it? I know you can pass your exam by just memorizing all the paragraphs but wouldn't it be better if you understand it too?
Why should I understand if I have great memory....some Muslims specifically said they memorised the whole quran but fall short to understand it! What an achievement!
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(03-06-2024, 10:14 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: What about the Holy Spirit? What is his name? If you know his name, which you don't, should you also include his name?
His name is Jibril tiok boh?
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(03-06-2024, 10:19 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: What do you think is his name? You participated in those religious forum since the 90s...
This small knowledge you should know right....who are you kidding pretending to be a bergin ![Big Grin Big Grin](https://sgtalk.net/images/smilies/biggrin.png)
I've no idea what is the Holy Spirit's name.
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(03-06-2024, 10:24 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: His name is Jibril tiok boh? ![Big Grin Big Grin](https://sgtalk.net/images/smilies/biggrin.png)
Jibril is a holy spirit, yes.
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(03-06-2024, 10:22 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: Why should I understand if I have great memory....some Muslims specifically said they memorised the whole quran but fall short to understand it! What an achievement!
If they don't bother to understand, they will get only the benefit of memorizing it but not the benefit of understanding it.
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(03-06-2024, 10:26 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: Jibril is a holy spirit, yes.
There you go...no need to ask if the Christian holy spirit has a name!
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