[pinkpanther]

I didn't say your scripture is a mirage. 

I said the wide gate you chose is a mirage.

Why are you assuming that you are right that I have chosen the wide gate. Why are you spreading falsehood

What does Allah says abt this ?

But if they intend to deceive you – then sufficient for you is Allah. It is He who supported you with His help and with the believers. [Quran, 8:62]

I am not Muslim...lol

[Ali Imran]

Why are you assuming that you are right that I have chosen the wide gate. Why are you spreading falsehood

1. Faith and works. Must be circumcised. Must go to the temple everyday. Must fast. Must not eat pork. Must observe Sabbath. And much more.
2. Faith only. No need to do all that.

You made it clear that you chose 2, what Paul taught you. 

I don't need to tell you which path is the difficult one to take.

[pinkpanther]

1. Faith and works. Must be circumcised. Must go to the temple everyday. Must fast. Must not eat pork. Must observe Sabbath. And much more.
2. Faith only. No need to do all that.

You made it clear that you chose 2, what Paul taught you. 

I don't need to tell you which path is the difficult one to take.

Haiya...when you have faith in God...naturally you will start to do all the righteous ...but is it worth a mention? I personally do not think so!

If you donate to 1 beggar out of the 10 who come asking....how are you judge by God's standards? And if I donate to all of them but a mere $0.10? How does God judge me?

[pinkpanther]

1. Faith and works. Must be circumcised. Must go to the temple everyday. Must fast. Must not eat pork. Must observe Sabbath. And much more.
2. Faith only. No need to do all that.

You made it clear that you chose 2, what Paul taught you. 

I don't need to tell you which path is the difficult one to take.

 In Paul we find a powerful witness of God....why are you making him look like a rebel?
You don know the dude...I suggest you go read up on him or his biography to understand him...

What does Allah says ?

[Ali Imran]

Haiya...when you have faith in God...naturally you will start to do all the righteous ...but is it worth a mention? I personally do not think so!

I will remind you of Tom.

When God makes Tom believe that God wants him to part some of his money to the church, according to you, Tom is already considered righteous because he believes God wants him to do that. But what happen if Tom didn't do it out of miserliness? Is he still righteous? Surely you must say no.

To add on, if we follow what Paul taught, Tom will have no incentive to actually do it. He is already righteous because he already has faith. Whether he does it or not makes no difference to him.

[pinkpanther]

I will remind you of Tom.


To add on, if we follow what Paul taught, Tom will have no incentive to actually do it. He is already righteous because he already has faith. Whether he does it or not makes no difference to him.

So?? Finish up for me ..will you!

[Ali Imran]

 In Paul we find a powerful witness of God....why are you making him look like a rebel?
You don know the dude...I suggest you go read up on him or his biography to understand him...

What does Allah says ?

Is it me who is making Paul look suspicious? No, I disagree. I am quoting James, who said you're a fool if you believe Paul. 

If I had been there at that time, I would rather have trusted James over Paul because I would have known James was taught by Jesus, and Jesus never once mention Paul.

[Ali Imran]

So?? Finish up for me ..will you!

It is hypothetical. 

You already know that we believe exactly like James.

You believe in Sola Fide, a teaching that came from Paul and directly opposed by James.

[cheekopekman]

Let’s see if he comes during our life time 👍

Jesus will come at a time you least expect Him lah!  Maybe tonight leh!

[pinkpanther]

It is hypothetical. 

You already know that we believe exactly like James.

You believe in Sola Fide, a teaching that came from Paul and directly opposed by James.

The 2 were not enemies lah...why you trying to create tensions!
Paul is inspired by God! What you want us to do? You want us to defy God and you with that evil face grinning at one corner ah!

If you want to attack Paul...you need to disclaim God is not using him for his works!
Or else whatever nonsenses you threw at Paul doesn't stand! Get it! Haiya!

I can attack muh you know...but I cannot refute he is the prophet of Allah...though I can at least try...like you lor! lol

[Ali Imran]

The 2 were not enemies lah...why you trying to create tensions!
Paul is inspired by God! What you want us to do? You want us to defy God and you with that evil face grinning at one corner ah!

If you want to attack Paul...you need to disclaim God is not using him for his works!
Or else whatever nonsenses you threw at Paul doesn't stand! Get it! Haiya!

As I've said, I would have listened to James over Paul, because James was taught directly by Jesus, and Jesus never once mentioned Paul. What about the masses? Would the masses have listened to James over Paul? The answer is yes. Ask me how I know.

[pinkpanther]

Jesus will come at a time you least expect Him lah!  Maybe tonight leh!

If the human mankind is a book consisting of 1000 pages....we might only be at page 5...

[pinkpanther]

As I've said, I would have listened to James over Paul, because James was taught directly by Jesus, and Jesus never once mentioned Paul. What about the masses? Would the masses have listened to James over Paul? The answer is yes. Ask me how I know.

The masses also reject Jesus as God...they threw stones at him..remember?

[Ali Imran]

If the human mankind is a book consisting of 1000 pages....we might only be at page 5...

If creation is scoped to one hour, we are in the last 5 seconds.

How do we know that? Eschatology.

[pinkpanther]

If creation is scoped to one hour, we are in the last 5 seconds.

How do we know that? Eschatology.

The last 5 secs could be a few thousands years from now lah...
I don know...just a guess! What makes you think we are nearing the end of times?
Entertain me on that thought..Will you!

[Oyk]

That's why you are the same as the hindus and the Buddhist...must believe and do good...those committed big wrongs can no longer be saved!

This is where we are different!
Jesus already done all the works for us to be saved thru his sacrifice.....even big sinners can be saved not by works alone but by his faith!

Not saved by faith per se.

We are saved by grace through faith.

Btw, why is that potato using James against you huh? He said he didn't believe the Bible yet he's quoting the Bible wor. Pretty obvious that he's mocking. 

[Ali Imran]

The masses also reject Jesus as God...they threw stones at him..remember?

Errmm.. not the masses, but the aristocrats, the Pharisees.

Whenever Jesus preached to the masses, people would be transfixed. There would have been a "halo over his head". Most people would be able to see it except the people whose eyes were blinded, the Pharisees.

[pinkpanther]

Is it me who is making Paul look suspicious? No, I disagree. I am quoting James, who said you're a fool if you believe Paul. 

If I had been there at that time, I would rather have trusted James over Paul because I would have known James was taught by Jesus, and Jesus never once mention Paul.

Why don you go back to muh's time during the banu Qurayza and count the death toll...this will do your book some justice!

What does Allah says about unfaithful servants?

[Oyk]

Jesus will come at a time you least expect Him lah!  Maybe tonight leh!

We don't know the exact day and hour but we are told that certain things must happen first. Tonight is unlikely.

[Ali Imran]

The last 5 secs could be a few thousands years from now lah...
I don know...just a guess! What makes you think we are nearing the end of times?
Entertain me on that thought..Will you!

Eschatology.
As you may already know, the red heifers are already in Jerusalem. As soon as that is achieved, the Messiah will appear.

[Oyk]

Why don you go back to muh's time during the banu Qurayza and count the death toll...this will do your book some justice!

What does Allah says about unfaithful servants?

It's between 600 and 900. 

50 is a lie.

[pinkpanther]

Not saved by faith per se.

We are saved by grace through faith.

Btw, why is that potato using James against you huh? He said he didn't believe the Bible yet he's quoting the Bible wor. Pretty obvious that he's mocking. 

That's right..save by grace though faith!

He doesn't want to talk about muh wor! He is petty wor....Ah Lee if you want to further your knowledge...you need to engage your nemesis Oyk but it comes at a price 

[Oyk]

Eschatology.
As you may already know, the red heifers are already in Jerusalem. As soon as that is achieved, the Messiah will appear.

That's your "Christ" not ours. 

We have been told to not believe it if someone says here's the Christ, there's the Christ. 

Tell me which religion is expecting the coming of the anti Christ. 

[Oyk]

That's right..save by grace though faith!

He doesn't want to talk about muh wor! He is petty wor....Ah Lee if you want to further your knowledge...you need to engage your nemesis Oyk but it comes at a price 

We can't be saved by works because God's standard is perfection. 

Most importantly, it's the sin DNA which has to be dealtt with.

In the OT, it was God's law. We saw the wrath of God when punishing sin.

In the NT, we see God's grace. Ee Mun rejects that. He believes Muh and says he doesn't need Christ...he has faith but not God's grace. His faith is in Muh.

[pinkpanther]

We can't be saved by works because God's standard is perfection. 

Most importantly, it's the sin DNA which has to be dealtt with.

In the OT, it was God's law. We saw the wrath of God when punishing sin.

In the NT, we see God's grace. Ee Mun rejects that. He believes Muh and says he doesn't need Christ...he has faith but not God's grace. His faith is in Muh.

Ah Lee..do you want to refute this as you know no mothers are involved

[pinkpanther]

Eschatology.
As you may already know, the red heifers are already in Jerusalem. As soon as that is achieved, the Messiah will appear.

Ah Lee...Will you entertain your nemesis just for viewership?

[pinkpanther]

When you see this kind of large numbers...it is either fake or the GE is coming or someone copied the link, mass sent to a congregation so they can also discussed among themselves...

Needless to say..Ah Lee is the star attraction

[cheekopekman]

We don't know the exact day and hour but we are told that certain things must happen first. Tonight is unlikely.

If it happens tonight how leh?  Are you ready for Him to come?

[Oyk]

If it happens tonight how leh?  Are you ready for Him to come?

Yes. I have only God's promise to save me through Christ. Ee Mun wants me to say that Paul lied. That means all Christians have been deceived.

[Oyk]

Ah Lee..do you want to refute this as you know no mothers are involved

Buddhists, Hindus, Moslems all have faith...in whatever they believe.

Chrisitans also have faith but more than that we have God's grace. Without grace, faith cannot save us. Faith is just believing in God. Satan also believes.... and trembles.