[lionkingch55]

Any idea how are those countries that used vaccines without mRNA such as Sinovac for example Phillippines and Indonesia doing?
Seems to me like these countries already achieved natural immunity without the need of this living with Covid model and the fear and sufferings that one has to go through to achieve the herd immunity if this mofel works.......

Don't believe in all these reported numbers. It all depend on how you test them. Just look at the number of deaths. But this figure can also be fudged.