[Ali Imran]

For your info...the hadiths for Sunnis and shias were late for reporting...meaning they were at least 2-300 yrs late....you want to go by the word of mouth? From imams to imams to unknown?  There were no credible records to show as well!

Some Muslims prefer not to use the hadith....I think in your very earliest posts...you refuted the accuracies of the hadiths

I am not a Hadith scholar. I know very little about Hadith but the little I know is a mountain standing next to your molehill.

Any historians would take our Sahih Hadith as historical records to determine a historical event. All the Gospels put together can only give them clues, not records. For records of events, historians need to turn to Josephus, whose writings came close to being historical records. Is there a Gospel according to Josephus? No, there isn't any.