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According to Jay, the Quran is also not the word of God wor.

What did he say?  As follows....

How can someone who lived thousands of miles from where Muh was born and died, and over a hundred years after his death even know what Muh said, other than writing down a Quran that's based on hearsay?  The hadiths were even later, as long as three hundred years after Muh died.   That's like someone living in South Korea telling you that he heard that your great great greeeeat grandfather who lived in Muar three hundred years ago....he said this, that and the other, and his favourite fruit was the Buah Duku, and he said that it's okay to eat pork satay.  You believe?

Next, you'd argue that the Quran was memorized.  But Jay had found various versions of the Qurans still in circulation, but the manuscripts were destroyed.  Why?  So which Quran was memorised?

Carbon dating revealed some inconvenient things you shant like to read so I will spare you for nao.

Suffice to say it that it was.....horror of horrors!  Science!  it was discovered that words were erased, written over, edited, changed....eew!  did Jibril suddenly discover that he told Muh the wrong things, or did Allah have to tell subsequent writers to do the corrections because they memorized the wrong things?

And what took it so long for the Quran to be written down?  The Islamic world was by no means a small one in the seventh century.  There was not a single person who knew how to write?  You think they were all a bunch of illiterate kampung...erm desert dwellers who did not know how to write Arabic?  Cannot be right.

I have done my part to tediously write down what Jay said in his beedio (only some of it) again.  Are you gentleman enough to nao reply, after I did what you ordered me to do? 

All Muslim scholars, without exception, since 1,400+ years ago, believe the Quran is the verbatim word of God.

You are free to believe Jay Smith who doesn't even know Arabic over the hundreds of thousands of Muslim scholars.

I wrote so much, as ordered, and you had said you would be glad to reply.

But your reply was to delete my points, almost my entire post, and just do a personal attack on Jay's linguistic ability?  So all of us must study Hebrew, Greek, Aramic, Arabic and make sure we score A1 to discuss at this Speakers Corner?  Wow!  Another Ee Mun antic at play wor!