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(05-06-2024, 09:07 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: Remember friend. Once we die, we cannot come back. So we better get it right. Use our brain, not our emotions to seek truth.
Many people including muslims on nde met Jesus were given sec chance to repent n walk the correct path
how come no met your muh or allah? Use your brain think
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If you don take back what was said abt me....I won't play nice with you! I will be 10 times worse than Oyk!
Prior to you calling me a liar...I have never insulted your family or call you a liar...infact I said you made a honest mistake!....now I even cover my own arse to tell Muslims here not to believe too much into what I said...
If you cannot show integrity...I will show no manners to you as well!
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(05-06-2024, 09:08 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: Let me remind you what was reported ..this was taken from a pro Islam website..
I said muh ordered the massacre...they say he killed all the fighting men..
Why are you calling me aliar then!
Ibn Umar reported:
فَقَتَلَ رِجَالَهُمْ وَقَسَمَ نِسَاءَهُمْ وَأَوْلَادَهُمْ وَأَمْوَالَهُمْ بَيْنَ الْمُسْلِمِينَ إِلَّا أَنَّ بَعْضَهُمْ لَحِقُوا بِرَسُولِ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ فَآمَنَهُمْ وَأَسْلَمُوا
Thus, the Prophet killed their fighting men and he distributed their women, children, and property among the Muslims except for some of them who had joined the Messenger of Allah and so he granted them protection and they embraced Islam.
Many of the male descendants of Quraiza lived, some of them embracing Islam, which is proof that the Prophet did not commit genocide (extermination of an entire race), but rather he only approved the execution of their combatants as an act of self-defense.
I never say muh kill hor...! Will you take back your words that I am a liar?
Please show me the site.
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(05-06-2024, 08:33 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: You are also not sure where you're going, up or down.
We place our faith in Jesus. The criminal who was crucified next to Jesus...I wouldn't know what all his sins all his life were. I guess he must have committed lots of them, as all of us had. He had done nothing...NOTHING....to atone for his sins. He only had one thing going for him: he had faith. And right then and there, Jesus forgave all his sins and said that that very day, he would be in paradise with Him.
We are sure where we will be going. Your "also" shows that you aren't sure.
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(05-06-2024, 09:28 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: Please show me the site.
https://www.abuaminaelias.com/prophet-ge...u-qurayza/
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(05-06-2024, 09:32 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: https://www.abuaminaelias.com/prophet-ge...u-qurayza/
This fact is confirmed by Dr. Marco Schöller:
The Islamic tradition knows a number of descendants from the Qurayẓa by name, most famous among them being the traditionist Muḥammad b. Kaʿb al-Quraẓī, who was born a Muslim and died in Medina in 120/738 or some years before. Others include his father Kaʿb ibn Asad ibn Sulaym and his brother Isḥāq, as well as ʿAṭiyya al-Quraẓī, al-Zubayr ibn ʿAbd al-Raḥmān ibn al-Zabīr, ʿAlī ibn Rifāʿa and the progeny of Abū Malik al-Quraẓī. This suggests that… several male persons of the Qurayẓa did survive the conflict in Medina, probably because of their young age at the time.
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(05-06-2024, 09:12 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: Many people including muslims on nde met Jesus were given sec chance to repent n walk the correct path
how come no met your muh or allah? Use your brain think
Is that the truth? If a Hindu tells you that Ganesh came to him during a nde and gave him a second chance, does it mean Ganesh is true?
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(05-06-2024, 09:28 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: Please show me the site.
Next time pls bother to read...I know you are lazy....if you don read what I refuted...there is no point in carrying on any conversation with you! It is very disrespectful to the works that I have done
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(05-06-2024, 09:34 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: Is that the truth? If a Hindu tells you that Ganesh came to him during a nde and gave him a second chance, does it mean Ganesh is true?
So many u can find in utube
Hindu? Du your head lah
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(05-06-2024, 09:34 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: Is that the truth? If a Hindu tells you that Ganesh came to him during a nde and gave him a second chance, does it mean Ganesh is true?
Right. When I mentioned Hindus, I was accused by you of strawmanning...
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(05-06-2024, 09:08 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: Let me remind you what was reported ..this was taken from a pro Islam website..
I said muh ordered the massacre...they say he killed all the fighting men..
Why are you calling me aliar then!
Ibn Umar reported:
فَقَتَلَ رِجَالَهُمْ وَقَسَمَ نِسَاءَهُمْ وَأَوْلَادَهُمْ وَأَمْوَالَهُمْ بَيْنَ الْمُسْلِمِينَ إِلَّا أَنَّ بَعْضَهُمْ لَحِقُوا بِرَسُولِ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ فَآمَنَهُمْ وَأَسْلَمُوا
Thus, the Prophet killed their fighting men and he distributed their women, children, and property among the Muslims except for some of them who had joined the Messenger of Allah and so he granted them protection and they embraced Islam.
Many of the male descendants of Quraiza lived, some of them embracing Islam, which is proof that the Prophet did not commit genocide (extermination of an entire race), but rather he only approved the execution of their combatants as an act of self-defense.
I never say muh kill hor...! Will you take back your words that I am a liar?
Do you know where he got that saying of ibn Umar? We need to know if the source is reliable. I am not sure of that site so I won't say anything yet.
Say a group of men, like 50, were found guilty of treason by a judge, sentenced to death, and all 50 put to death on the same morning. Would you consider that a massacre?
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(05-06-2024, 09:28 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: Please show me the site.
You cannot say this website is anti Islam
In addition, even though the Muslims suffered this bitter conflict with the Jewish tribes of Medina, this did not diminish the Prophet’s teachings of kindness and good character toward Jewish neighbors. In fact, the Prophet died will in the middle of a business contract with a Jew.
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(05-06-2024, 09:43 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: Do you know where he got that saying of ibn Umar? We need to know if the source is reliable. I am not sure of that site so I won't say anything yet.
Say a group of men, like 50, were found guilty of treason by a judge, sentenced to death, and all 50 put to death on the same morning. Would you consider that a massacre?
No...I want to ask you if I am lying? This is a pro Islamic website!
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(05-06-2024, 09:46 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: No...I want to ask you if I am lying? This is a pro Islamic website!
That's what we are trying to determine.
You made it sound like our prophet suka suka killed his defenseless enemies or prisoners. And you said our prophet ordered a massacre.
Then you come to know that there was a judge and a death sentence was issued to those men by that judge, not our prophet. So it is false to say that our prophet ordered a massacre.
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