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(16-08-2024, 04:03 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  https://sunnah.com/muslim:2767a

Hello Kawan....I'm curious about why Allah seems to have such discontent towards Jews and Christians. Why isn't there a focus on Hindus or Buddhists 
Hadith is not from Allah.However Quran addresses Hindus and Buddhist as polytheists, Idol worshiper, Non believer and etc.
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(16-08-2024, 05:50 AM)cheekopekman Wrote:  You are the proof lah! Big Grin If God didn't create you how can you be writing now leh? Thinking "I am fearfully and wonderfully made."

You should prove with Bible verses.
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(17-08-2024, 10:09 AM)Hope Wrote:  You should prove with Bible verses.

Who created Adam n Eve?

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(14-08-2024, 10:31 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  This is divine speech from your prophet to an orphan girl  Big Grin

https://sunnah.com/muslim:2603

It is your misunderstanding as that slave girl did.
Please read the few lines of the Hadith again to understand .
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(17-08-2024, 10:07 AM)Hope Wrote:  Hadith is not from Allah.However Quran addresses Hindus and Buddhist as polytheists, Idol worshiper, Non believer and etc.

Hadith, corpus of the sayings or traditions of the Prophet Muhammad, revered by Muslims as a major source of religious law and moral guidance. It comprises many reports of varying length and authenticity.

This is where you face a tricky situation...every word and action of Muhammad is believed to be by the will of Allah. If the hadith isn't indirectly from Allah, then why do Muslims read it? Should you trust the book? Big Grin
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(17-08-2024, 10:23 AM)Hope Wrote:  It is your misunderstanding as that slave girl did.
Please read the few lines of the Hadith again to understand .

Your prophet cursed her not to live long! That is the message.. Big Grin
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(14-08-2024, 10:23 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Do you believe that all prophets following Moses are subject to God's laws? God nearly punished Moses for not circumcising his children, indicating that the law applies equally to everyone. If that's the case, why does God allow Muhammad to receive 30% of the spoils from wars? 

Why did he continue taking women, men, children as slaves? Why did he not set better benchmarks?Shouldn't God's fairness mean that the same standards apply to all?

Let me make it easier for you...how many of the 10 Commandments did your prophet break? Make a guess!

Prophet Muhammad or We Muslim no need to follow the commandments given to Moses and any other prophet.
Allah gave commandments and scriptures for all the prophets to apply on their respective nations only.
Quran has mentioned how to manage war spoils and slave.please read
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(14-08-2024, 09:23 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  I agreed to the 2nd last paragraph  Big Grin
Why don’t you take on Richdad?
Because you can’t prove if God exist or not?😂
Or Atheism is not a challenge to Christianity? Or  You don’t have anti atheist websites to learn?😂

Most of the Christian are becoming Atheist 🥹
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(14-08-2024, 09:21 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  The Quran was recorded on various materials such as leaves, stones, animal skins, and bones before it was compiled, and we lack information regarding the identities of the original authors. .....Isn't it possible that there could be elements of fabrication? It seems there may be more authors associated with the Quran than with the Bible.

Quran has no authors or fabrications. If there were any, Shia Muslims could have rejected the Quran and created their own.
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(17-08-2024, 10:39 AM)Hope Wrote:  Why don’t you take on Richdad?
Because you can’t prove if God exist or not?😂
Or Atheism is not a challenge to Christianity? Or  You don’t have anti atheist websites to learn?😂

Most of the Christian are becoming Atheist 🥹

Your buddy did not take him on...he replied to Richdad! Are you suggesting that he a Moslem is slowly becoming a Atheist according to your last para? Big Grin
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(17-08-2024, 10:09 AM)Hope Wrote:  You should prove with Bible verses.

You are created in the image of God lah! Big Grin Man and woman God created them lah!
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(14-08-2024, 08:41 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  He has eyes (Quran 20.39), face (Quran 55.27), hands (Quran 39.67), and legs (Quran 68.42 so he is not formless...so he is bound by space and time! If the universe has no space..he will cease to exist!

What is this?Purpose? Misleading people?
These are the complete verses of those verses you have mentioned .


Quran 20:39”‘Put him into a chest, then put it into the river. The river will wash it ashore, and he will be taken by ˹Pharaoh,˺ an enemy of Mine and his.’ And I endeared you with love from Me ˹O Moses˺ so that you would be brought up under My ˹watchful˺ Eye.”

Quran 55:27”Only your Lord Himself,full of Majesty and Honour, will remain ˹forever”

Quran 39:67”They did not recognise the true worth of Allah. (Such is Allah's power that) on the Day of Resurrection the whole earth will be in His grasp, and the heavens shall be folded up in His Right Hand.Glory be to Him! Exalted be He from all that they associate with Him.”

Quran 68:47”Or do they have access to ˹the Record in˺ the unseen, so they copy it ˹for all to see˺?”
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(17-08-2024, 10:44 AM)Hope Wrote:  Quran has no authors or fabrications. If there were any, Shia Muslims could have rejected the Quran and created their own.

Fasting will say: O Lord, I kept him from his food and desires during the day; let me intercede for him. And the Quran will say: I kept him from sleeping during the night; let me intercede for him. And they will be allowed to intercede.”

The Quran intercedes for you, speaks for you, is uncreated, came from the essence of Allah...therefore Tawhid destroyed my friend...if the Quran can intercedes for you in a form of a man on judgement day with a conscious....clearly you are polytheist! Big Grin

Allah and Quran...2 distinct persons!
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(17-08-2024, 10:59 AM)Hope Wrote:  What is this?Purpose? Misleading people?
These are the complete verses of those verses you have mentioned .


Quran 20:39”‘Put him into a chest, then put it into the river. The river will wash it ashore, and he will be taken by ˹Pharaoh,˺ an enemy of Mine and his.’ And I endeared you with love from Me ˹O Moses˺ so that you would be brought up under My ˹watchful˺ Eye.”

Quran 55:27”Only your Lord Himself,full of Majesty and Honour, will remain ˹forever”

Quran 39:67”They did not recognise the true worth of Allah. (Such is Allah's power that) on the Day of Resurrection the whole earth will be in His grasp, and the heavens shall be folded up in His Right Hand.Glory be to Him! Exalted be He from all that they associate with Him.”

Quran 68:47”Or do they have access to ˹the Record in˺ the unseen, so they copy it ˹for all to see˺?”

OK.. forget the verses..but clearly Allah has eyes, legs, 2 right hands, face...do you agree?
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(17-08-2024, 11:08 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  OK.. forget the verses..but clearly Allah has eyes, legs, 2 right hands, face...do you agree?

Allah has no material body like humans.
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(17-08-2024, 11:05 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Fasting will say: O Lord, I kept him from his food and desires during the day; let me intercede for him. And the Quran will say: I kept him from sleeping during the night; let me intercede for him. And they will be allowed to intercede.”

The Quran intercedes for you, speaks for you, is uncreated, came from the essence of Allah...therefore Tawhid destroyed my friend...if the Quran can intercedes for you in a form of a man on judgement day with a conscious....clearly you are polytheist! Big Grin

Allah and Quran...2 distinct persons!

So God of Moses a polytheist as he appeared to him?
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(17-08-2024, 10:26 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Your prophet cursed her not to live long! That is the message.. Big Grin
Please read the Hadith again
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(17-08-2024, 11:40 AM)Hope Wrote:  Please read the Hadith again

He said: Umm Sulaim, what is that? She said: She (the orphan girl) states you have cursed her saying that she might not grow in age or grow in life. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) smiled and then said: Umm Sulaim, don't you know that I have made this term with my Lord.
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(17-08-2024, 11:37 AM)Hope Wrote:  Allah has no material body like humans.

Salafis say yes... Allah has physical body parts, although we can't compare them to our own physical body parts. So He has hands for example, but we can't know what those hands are like. He has feet, but we can't know what those feet are like.

Other groups (especially Shias) say that He doesn't have any physical form at all and to take those verses literally is blasphemy.

Why Moslems share contradicting beliefs?
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(17-08-2024, 11:43 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  He said: Umm Sulaim, what is that? She said: She (the orphan girl) states you have cursed her saying that she might not grow in age or grow in life. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) smiled and then said: Umm Sulaim, don't you know that I have made this term with my Lord.

so for any person from amongst my Ummah whom I curse and he in no way deserves it, let that, O Lord, be made a source of purification and purity and nearness to (Allah) on the Day of Resurrection.
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(17-08-2024, 11:49 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Salafis say yes... Allah has physical body parts, although we can't compare them to our own physical body parts. So He has hands for example, but we can't know what those hands are like. He has feet, but we can't know what those feet are like.

Other groups (especially Shias) say that He doesn't have any physical form at all and to take those verses literally is blasphemy.

Why Moslems share contradicting beliefs?

we have not seen Allah, We are not sure .

Since you have seen your God, you can tell he is like a Ang mo with blond hair. How ever he chose not to be like Indian,African and Chinese 😂
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(17-08-2024, 12:33 PM)Hope Wrote:  so for any person from amongst my Ummah whom I curse and he in no way deserves it, let that, O Lord, be made a source of purification and purity and nearness to (Allah) on the Day of Resurrection.

.” The Messenger of Allah said, “Any man of my ummah (community) whom I have insulted or cursed when I was angry - for I am a man from among the sons of Adam, and I get angry just as you do, but Allaah has sent me as a Mercy to the Worlds, so I will make that my anger into blessings for him on the Day of Resurrection.” 

Rotfl next time if someone insults or curse your prophet...pls also take that as a blessing!
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(17-08-2024, 12:39 PM)Hope Wrote:  we have not seen Allah, We are not sure .

Since you have seen your God, you can tell he is like a Ang mo with blond hair. How ever he  chose not to be like Indian,African and Chinese  😂

You have seen lah...it was reported! Big Grin
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(17-08-2024, 12:45 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  .” The Messenger of Allah said, “Any man of my ummah (community) whom I have insulted or cursed when I was angry - for I am a man from among the sons of Adam, and I get angry just as you do, but Allaah has sent me as a Mercy to the Worlds, so I will make that my anger into blessings for him on the Day of Resurrection.” 

Rotfl next time if someone insults or curse your prophet...pls also take that as a blessing!

People who curse or insult will go to hell.see one chapter from Quran 

Quran chapter 111

  1. May the hands of Abu Lahab be ruined, and ruined is he.
  2. His wealth will not avail him or that which he gained.
  3. He will [enter to] burn in a Fire of [blazing] flame
  4. And his wife [as well] – the carrier of firewood.
  5. Around her neck is a rope of [twisted] fiber.
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(17-08-2024, 01:01 PM)Hope Wrote:  People who curse or insult will go to hell.see one chapter from Quran 

Quran chapter 111

  1. May the hands of Abu Lahab be ruined, and ruined is he.
  2. His wealth will not avail him or that which he gained.
  3. He will [enter to] burn in a Fire of [blazing] flame
  4. And his wife [as well] – the carrier of firewood.
  5. Around her neck is a rope of [twisted] fiber.

There.. you buried your prophet! He cursed!
God's laws are make equal for all...there is no exceptions!
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(17-08-2024, 01:02 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  There.. you buried your prophet! He cursed!
God's laws are make equal for all...there is no exceptions!

Let the God decide.

You be careful.you will have problems in this world and after death.

Quran 22:18”Do you not see [i.e., know] that to Allāh prostrates whoever is in the heavens and whoever is on the earth and the sun, the moon, the stars, the mountains, the trees, the moving creatures and many of the people? But upon many the punishment has been justified.And he whom Allāh humiliates - for him there is no bestower of honor. Indeed, Allāh does what He wills.”
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(17-08-2024, 01:11 PM)Hope Wrote:  Let the God decide.
You be careful.you will have problems in this world and after death.

Are you cursing me or putting a curse on me? Big Grin
Where do you go if you curse me?  Big Grin
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(17-08-2024, 01:17 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Are you cursing me or putting a curse on me? Big Grin
Where do you go if you curse me?  Big Grin

I am not cursing you or anyone
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