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11-09-2024, 03:06 PM
11-09-2024, 04:59 PM
Malay people existed before Islam
They were animists, Hindus and Buddhists before embracing Islam.
Quite a discovery!
The Hindu and the Buddhists back then did not embrace Islam...what makes the entire Malay population ditch their beliefs and accept Islam? Totally no loyalty!
They were animists, Hindus and Buddhists before embracing Islam.
Quite a discovery!
The Hindu and the Buddhists back then did not embrace Islam...what makes the entire Malay population ditch their beliefs and accept Islam? Totally no loyalty!
11-09-2024, 04:59 PM
(11-09-2024, 03:06 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: How does one know if one is disobeying God?
that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father, who sent him.
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
11-09-2024, 05:40 PM
11-09-2024, 10:52 PM
(11-09-2024, 04:59 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: Malay people existed before Islam
They were animists, Hindus and Buddhists before embracing Islam.
Quite a discovery!
The Hindu and the Buddhists back then did not embrace Islam...what makes the entire Malay population ditch their beliefs and accept Islam? Totally no loyalty!
“You surely cannot guide whoever you like ˹O Prophet˺, but it is Allah Who guides whoever He wills, and He knows best who are ˹fit to be˺ guided.”Quran 28:56
“So whoever Allāh wants to guide - He expands his breast to [contain] Islām; and whoever He wants to send astray1 - He makes his breast tight and constricted as though he were climbing into the sky. Thus does Allāh place defilement upon those who do not believe.”Quran 6:125
“Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “O humanity! The truth has surely come to you from your Lord. So whoever chooses to be guided, it is only for their own good. And whoever chooses to stray, it is only to their own loss. And I am not a keeper over you.”Quran 10:108
11-09-2024, 10:58 PM
(11-09-2024, 03:00 PM)cheekopekman Wrote: Muslims also know what Satan is like, right?Those who disobey God, for example, are followers of Satan lah!
Bible says Satan is prince of the earth.It means Satan is more powerful.can you explain why is Satan powerful than your God?
Quran says saitan (Satan) is weak and can do whispering only.
11-09-2024, 11:06 PM
(11-09-2024, 04:59 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: Malay people existed before Islam
They were animists, Hindus and Buddhists before embracing Islam.
Quite a discovery!
The Hindu and the Buddhists back then did not embrace Islam...what makes the entire Malay population ditch their beliefs and accept Islam? Totally no loyalty!
before Hindu and the Buddhists there were other gods like those Egyptian God existed before Hindu and the Buddhists
they were all ditch and move to Hindu and the Buddhists and Islam
there were other gods before all the gods we know today
the most intriguing question is why there are so many gods out there and they all come and go by human selection and changes in their believes
of course there are only one true God that exist from the beginning till now and forever
11-09-2024, 11:10 PM
(10-09-2024, 03:28 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: After Satan was casted out of heaven with one third of the angels who followed him, he roams to n fro looking for his prey
As u can see the world is in a chaos,all kinds of wickedness surfaced. Killing,cheating,lyiing,controlling,pride
Gays,witchcraft,etc.
Storms wrecked homes,flood submerged homes,hailstones,next fire will come n destroy the earth.
No peace at all.
People are hoping to go heaven a beautiful place no worries of job,food n expensive homes which most only last for 99 years
But still people are fighting on which is the true God that saves your soul.
Angels supporting Satan?
Can you forward your Bible verse for us to learn?
11-09-2024, 11:20 PM
(11-09-2024, 11:10 PM)Hope Wrote: Angels supporting Satan?“And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, and prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.”
Can you forward your Bible verse for us to learn?
Revelation 12:7-9 KJV
This statement may refer to the rebellion in heaven that Satan led against God in the dawn of human history (Isaiah 14:12–21; Ezekiel 28:12–19). He led as many as one third of the angels from their abode in heaven.
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
11-09-2024, 11:24 PM
11-09-2024, 11:32 PM
(10-09-2024, 02:18 PM)cheekopekman Wrote: According to Jesus in the gospel, only those who are born again can enter the kingdom of God lah!Are you born again leh?
It means not all 45000 sect can go to the kingdom .
We don’t believe in new earth.We believe in hell and heaven which has seven levels.Can enter heaven if good deeds out weighs the bad deeds .
11-09-2024, 11:38 PM
(11-09-2024, 11:32 PM)Hope Wrote: It means not all 45000 sect can go to the kingdom .
We don’t believe in new earth.We believe in hell and heaven which has seven levels.Can enter heaven if good deeds out weighs the bad deeds .
stupid fake prophesies always talk about good deeds and bad deeds go to heaven
these are children stories and fake prophesies
true prophesies talk about the holy spirit and good mind that one are welcome to enter the heaven gate or door
12-09-2024, 12:09 AM
(11-09-2024, 11:32 PM)Hope Wrote: It means not all 45000 sect can go to the kingdom .
We don’t believe in new earth.We believe in hell and heaven which has seven levels.Can enter heaven if good deeds out weighs the bad deeds .
You don't believe that Jesus died for our sins, believing instead that we should be responsible for our own actions....However, this raises a contradiction: Why do Allah and your prophet not hold Muslims accountable for their deeds, but rather designate Jews and Christians as the means of salvation from hellfire?
We are your rescue from hell fire...you going to Jannah depend on us! That is what your prophet says!
12-09-2024, 12:17 AM
12-09-2024, 12:27 AM
(11-09-2024, 05:56 AM)cheekopekman Wrote: Satan's time is running out and the lake of fire and sulphur is ready for him in eternal destruction lah!Those who follow him will also end up there lah! Revelation 20 has all the details lah!
God didn't create hell for people; He created it for the devil and his demons (Matt 25:41). God doesn't send any person to hell. A person sends himself to hell by his own sin of rejecting the Lord Jesus Christ as his Savior. God doesn't shut the doors of salvation to keep people from receiving Jesus. He gives people a choice; they're the only ones who can shut the door of salvation on themselves. One day, the gates of hell will be shut eternally, and those who rejected Jesus Christ will be forever lost.
The Bible says there'll be weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth in hell (Matt 25:30) In eternity it'll be a torment to the unsaved that Jesus wanted to save them, but they wouldn't let Him. There'll be enough torment in hell for a lost soul to spend an eternity regretting the fact that he missed Heaven and that hell is his eternal abode.
Throughout the Bible, from the OT right on through to the last page of the NT, you'll find again and again where the Word of God puts the responsibility for receiving the blessings of God upon each individual person. For example, God said, "...choose you this day whom ye will serve.." (Joshua 24:15). He leaves the choice up to us. Then in the Book of Revelation the Word of God said, ".. And let him that heareth say, Come.. whosoever will, let him take the water of life (salvation) freely" (Rev 22:17). "Whosoever" means each individual person must make the choice for himself to enter through God's doors of blessings. The blessings of God and everything else God wants us to have aren't going to automatically fall on us like ripe cherries off a tree. The benefits of salvation include not only the forgiveness of sin, but also healing, health, safety, deliverance, soundness, and wholeness.
12-09-2024, 12:41 AM
(11-09-2024, 11:06 PM)grotesqueness Wrote: before Hindu and the Buddhists there were other gods like those Egyptian God existed before Hindu and the Buddhists
they were all ditch and move to Hindu and the Buddhists and Islam
there were other gods before all the gods we know today
the most intriguing question is why there are so many gods out there and they all come and go by human selection and changes in their believes
of course there are only one true God that exist from the beginning till now and forever
Very simple answer is men’s desires.
12-09-2024, 12:45 AM
12-09-2024, 12:46 AM
(12-09-2024, 12:09 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: You don't believe that Jesus died for our sins, believing instead that we should be responsible for our own actions....However, this raises a contradiction: Why do Allah and your prophet not hold Muslims accountable for their deeds, but rather designate Jews and Christians as the means of salvation from hellfire?
We are your rescue from hell fire...you going to Jannah depend on us! That is what your prophet says!
Muslim also going to hell. Hell and heaven are decided based on deeds.
Not based on who is Muslim.
12-09-2024, 12:50 AM
12-09-2024, 12:59 AM
(12-09-2024, 12:50 AM)Hope Wrote: No. For example,Let’s say Christianity is the only religion for humanity. Who divided followers into 45000 sects? Not Jesus right. It is the desires of 45000 leaders.
Similarly people started their own religion
look at chinese
chinese is not one
there are canto chinese hokkein chinese hakka chinese and etc etc
same goes with the jews
there are difference Jews in Israel
back to your 45000 denominations or Sex i mean sects
there is only one sinless God
there are many sinful Sex i mean sects
we are human we are not God
as sinful human
we start all kinds of troubles
if we are sinless like God there is only one sects and denomination
12-09-2024, 01:11 AM
(11-09-2024, 11:20 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: “And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, and prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.”
Revelation 12:7-9 KJV
This statement may refer to the rebellion in heaven that Satan led against God in the dawn of human history (Isaiah 14:12–21; Ezekiel 28:12–19). He led as many as one third of the angels from their abode in heaven.
In Islam Satan story is different.Satan is from jinn not angles
Surely We created you,then shaped you, then said to the angels, “Prostrate before Adam,” so they all did—but not Iblîs,who refused to prostrate with the others.
Allah asked, “What prevented you from prostrating when I commanded you?” He replied, “I am better than he is: You created me from fire and him from clay.”
Allah said, “Then get down from Paradise! It is not for you to be arrogant here. So get out! You are truly one of the disgraced.”
He appealed, “Then delay my end until the Day of their resurrection.”
Allah said, “You are delayed ˹until the appointed Day˺.”
He said, “For leaving me to stray I will lie in ambush for them on Your Straight Path.
I will approach them from their front, their back, their right, their left, and then You will find most of them ungrateful.”
Allah said, “Get out of Paradise! You are disgraced and rejected! I will certainly fill up Hell with you and your followers all together.”Quran 11-18
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