[Lukongsimi]

The Bible produces all kinds of understanding. Some followers of the Bible say God is a unity and some say God is a Trinity. Both parties got that information from the Bible.

Why is the Bible like that?

Only His sheep understand it
Jesus said My sheep hears my voice

[pinkpanther]

Can’t be clay or water
When the dead are cremated it turned into ashes not sticky clay.
When they are buried after years later they become skeletons

 They say they are Moslem but I can tell you a simple question like this.. they cannot answer! 

[pinkpanther]

Almost all of the 114 sayings of Jesus was taken from the Gospel of Thomas to the Quran and you Moslems follow....but do you know what Thomas said to Jesus in the Bible?

Pls follow what he said : My Lord, My God!

[cheekopekman]

Almost all of the 114 sayings of Jesus was taken from the Gospel of Thomas to the Quran and you Moslems follow....but do you know what Thomas said to Jesus in the Bible?

Pls follow what he said : My Lord, My God!

Thomas said that when he saw the risen Lord Jesus Christ lah!  He wasn't around previously lah!

[pinkpanther]

The Quran says, “When God said, “O Jesus, son of Mary, did you say to the people, `Take me and my mother as two gods besides God?' …” (Quran 5:116

HELLO MOSLEM Brothers.....since when Mary was part of The Holy Trinity?
Your Quran got make any mistakes or not? Did Muhammad pbuh whack wrongly?

[Lukongsimi]

 They say they are Moslem but I can tell you a simple question like this.. they cannot answer! 

If God no open your eyes n see the truth u can’t see 
Last time there was a walaneh who mocked at Christians n now he changed as he is no more 
Blind 😊

[Hope]

How many versions of the Quran existed? Your version of the Quran is Huffs...but there are at least 3 more in circulation

Quran only one version.

[pinkpanther]

The Quran says, “When God said, “O Jesus, son of Mary, did you say to the people, `Take me and my mother as two gods besides God?' …” (Quran 5:116

When the Quran itself refers to Jesus in name...again it is submitting to the truth of the Bible...

Why don use the name Isa ibn maryam...haiya!! The Bible will never use the name Isa !

[Hope]

I would like to test your Islamic knowledge  ..let's have a quiz!

What is the correct answer?
Allah creates humans from.......

1. “nothing”;
2. “clay”;
3. “water”;
4. “dust”;
5. Adam from clay, then humans from “the extract of a liquid disdained”;
“sticky clay”;
6. Or “clinging substance” or “blood clot” in other translations.

What is the correct answer?

Allah created Adam from dust.

How did your human god created first human?

[Lukongsimi]

Allah created Adam from dust.

How did your human god created first human?

Only dust no breathe into his nostrils?

[pinkpanther]

Allah created Adam from dust.

How did your human god created first human?

So are all the humans created from dust?

[Hope]

Muhammad borrowed so much from the Infancy gospel of Thomas but why he doesn't have a detailed account of Jesus when he reached adulthood!

It's like me asking your opinion about your friend, but you can only share memories from his childhood.....  This is what the Quran tells you!

We find the Gospel of Thomas not reliable but Muhammad likes it wor!

Quran don’t need to borrow anything from any other source or book.
Owner of the Quran is the owner of this universe.
Quran is not a biography of Jesus to give full details of his life.Quran only debunks the claims of Trinity and death of Jesus of prophet of Allah

[pinkpanther]

Quran don’t need to borrow anything from any other source or book.
Owner of the Quran is the owner of this universe.
Quran is not a biography of Jesus to give full details of his life.Quran only debunks the claims of Trinity and death of Jesus of prophet of Allah

The Quran took from the Gospel of Thomas and then claim that Mary was part of the Trinity.......What was Muhammad thinking?

[Hope]

The way I see it Muslims can only claim 3 possible answers:

Answer one: Is a coincidence

Basically is a coincidence that the author of the infancy gospel of Thomas got an account of Jesus's life as accurate as a divine revelation from Allah

Answer two: The author knew of a tradition no one else knew.

I guess you can answer with this although It would still be rather odd because the text proclaims Jesus as having God-like powers and even has claims of him being born before creation etc.

Answer three: The author received part of a revelation?

I dont know still doesnt make sense like said, the gospel portrays Jesus as born before creation.

It seems like this is a HUGE problem for them right? Because it portrays a strong argument that Muhammad would have included in the Quran not divine revelations but stories and traditions he heard from some place, knowing that Medina was a place with many religious diversity is possible that an account of the gospel of Thomas was recited by someone there, and Muhammad picked it up thinking it to be canonical or fact.

How do Muslims reply to this?

If Muhammad did copied from the Gospel of Thomas....then the Quran, the uncreated Word of God debunked!

The Quran never says that Thomas also received the revelations word!

Gospel of Thomas was possibly thrown out because it claim god can not born out of a woman.
Like Gospel of Thomas , Gospel of Peter,Gospel of Mary, Gospel of infant Jesus and many more were thrown out.

Quran don’t need to copy from Any source or book as the owner of the Quran is the same as owner of this universe.

[Hope]

Can’t be clay or water
When the dead are cremated it turned into ashes not sticky clay.
When they are buried after years later they become skeletons

First human was created from dust.
Even if you cremate, Allah is capable of resurrecting the dead on the Judgement day.
How will your Man God resurrect the cremated one?

[pinkpanther]

Gospel of Thomas was possibly thrown out because it claim god can not born out of a woman.
Like Gospel of Thomas , Gospel of Peter,Gospel of Mary, Gospel of infant Jesus and many more were thrown out.

Quran don’t need to copy from Any source or book as the owner of the Quran is the same as owner of this universe.

That's because the Gospel of Thomas doesn't tell a story. It's a collection — a list — of 114 sayings attributed to Jesus, many just a sentence or two in length.

How you want to write into a book..you tell me 

[Hope]

She could be a fakey to confuse people
Some words may be changed for easier understanding

It was in a Christian, Muslim  dialogue

[Hope]

 They say they are Moslem but I can tell you a simple question like this.. they cannot answer! 

We can answer any questions as per our knowledge. We didn’t learn any thing in seminaries like you.

[Hope]

Almost all of the 114 sayings of Jesus was taken from the Gospel of Thomas to the Quran and you Moslems follow....but do you know what Thomas said to Jesus in the Bible?

Pls follow what he said : My Lord, My God! :

Quran don’t need to take anything from humans written books.
You can’t answer why gospel of Thomas was thrown out.😂

[Hope]

The Quran says, “When God said, “O Jesus, son of Mary, did you say to the people, `Take me and my mother as two gods besides God?' …” (Quran 5:116

HELLO MOSLEM Brothers.....since when Mary was part of The Holy Trinity?
Your Quran got make any mistakes or not? Did Muhammad pbuh whack wrongly?

Quran doesn’t address only to your church.It addresses to your 45000 sects and other sects created in future.
Please check with your 45000 sects if any of them are venerating Mary.

Again, you are posting a portion of the Quran verse to prevent others reading the real.

And ˹on Judgment Day˺ Allah will say, “O Jesus, son of Mary! Did you ever ask the people to worship you and your mother as gods besides Allah?” He will answer, “Glory be to You! How could I ever say what I had no right to say? If I had said such a thing, you would have certainly known it. You know what is ˹hidden˺ within me, but I do not know what is within You. Indeed, You ˹alone˺ are the Knower of all unseen.Quran 5:116

[pinkpanther]

We can answer any questions as per our knowledge. We didn’t learn any thing in seminaries like you.

So you are answering from your logic lah...nothing to do with the Quran lah...

[pinkpanther]

Quran doesn’t address only to your church.It addresses to your 45000 sects and other sects created in future.
Please check with your 45000 sects if any of them are venerating Mary.

Again, you are posting a portion of the Quran verse to prevent others reading the real.

And ˹on Judgment Day˺ Allah will say, “O Jesus, son of Mary! Did you ever ask the people to worship you and your mother as gods besides Allah?” He will answer, “Glory be to You! How could I ever say what I had no right to say? If I had said such a thing, you would have certainly known it. You know what is ˹hidden˺ within me, but I do not know what is within You. Indeed, You ˹alone˺ are the Knower of all unseen.Quran 5:116

Your Quran did not specifically mention Trinity but it mention "three" that are in worship and that includes Mary

[Hope]

If God no open your eyes n see the truth u can’t see 
Last time there was a walaneh who mocked at Christians n now he changed as he is no more 
Blind 😊

Will he go to heaven?

[pinkpanther]

Quran don’t need to take anything from humans written books.
You can’t answer why gospel of Thomas was thrown out.😂

I already answered you....How do you put 114 sayings of Jesus in a chapter? It doesn't tell a story!

[pinkpanther]

Quran don’t need to take anything from humans written books.
You can’t answer why gospel of Thomas was thrown out.😂

The Gospel of Thomas came before the Quran....how can the Quran be the uncreated Word of God if it contains almost everything in the Gospel of Thomas!

[Lukongsimi]

Will he go to heaven?

If name inside book of life,yes.

[Lukongsimi]

First human was created from dust.
Even if you cremate, Allah is capable of resurrecting the dead on the Judgement day.
How will your Man God resurrect the cremate?

Copied from the bible

[pinkpanther]

Quran don’t need to take anything from humans written books.
You can’t answer why gospel of Thomas was thrown out.😂

Is the Gospel of Thomas a revelation from Allah? If it is then Thomas is a Moslem..but he committed blasphemy when he called Jesus his Lord and His God...so how ah..my moslem brothers?

[Hope]

The Quran says, “When God said, “O Jesus, son of Mary, did you say to the people, `Take me and my mother as two gods besides God?' …” (Quran 5:116

When the Quran itself refers to Jesus in name...again it is submitting to the truth of the Bible...

Why don use the name Isa ibn maryam...haiya!! The Bible will never use the name Isa !

Quran was revealed in Arabic.Arabic Quran even today name Jesus as Isa ibn Mary(son of Mary)
English translation use the name Jesus , Son of Mary.

How can  the Bible in English name Jesus in Arabic or Aramaic ?

[Hope]

Only dust no breathe into his nostrils?

“Remember, O  Prophet˺ when your Lord said to the angels, “I am going to create a human being from sounding clay moulded from black mud.”Quran 15:28

“So when I have fashioned him and had a spirit of My Own ˹creation˺breathed into him, fall down in prostration to him.”Quran 15:29

“So the angels prostrated all together—“Quran 15:30