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The only reason I hire Singaporeans is to fulfill the quotas and to get EDB subsidies
03-05-2024, 10:11 AM
The only reason I hire Singaporeans is to fulfill the quotas and to get EDB subsidies. Without those, I'll be blunt, Singaporeans are too overpaid and underqualified for every role.
https://www.nuswhispers.com/confession/108726
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03-05-2024, 10:17 AM
it is true.
just like the kopi shops pay lao unkers cpf but not employed.
just like the kopi shops pay lao unkers cpf but not employed.
03-05-2024, 10:29 AM
(03-05-2024, 10:17 AM)K88 shu shu Wrote: it is true. just like the kopi shops pay lao unkers cpf but not employed.
Why post anonymously when the World knows SG and SGreans are NOT CHEAP ?
If coy finds too costly for their business and bottom line, they are welcomed to move to other *cheaper* places in ASEAN....
So why complain online ?
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03-05-2024, 10:31 AM
03-05-2024, 10:40 AM
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03-05-2024, 10:47 AM
(03-05-2024, 10:11 AM)Bigiron Wrote: The only reason I hire Singaporeans is to fulfill the quotas and to get EDB subsidies. Without those, I'll be blunt, Singaporeans are too overpaid and underqualified for every role.
https://www.nuswhispers.com/confession/108726
something is wrong with this employer.
if he wants to get EDB subsidies, he must employ expensive Singaporeans.
if he does not want to employ expensive Singaporeans, he can give up EDB subsidies.
in reality, only govt sector and MNCs can afford to employ expensive Singaporeans.
03-05-2024, 10:58 AM
(03-05-2024, 10:11 AM)Bigiron Wrote: The only reason I hire Singaporeans is to fulfill the quotas and to get EDB subsidies. Without those, I'll be blunt, Singaporeans are too overpaid and underqualified for every role.
https://www.nuswhispers.com/confession/108726
in the past, employers can have 100% or 90% foreigners in the company.
now, MOM have rules to prevent this anti-Singaporean work culture.
if an employer does not feel anything wrong by having 90% foreigners in the company, there is no point having this kind of employers
in Singapore.
because this kind of employer cannot provide enough jobs for Singaporeans.
03-05-2024, 11:05 AM
(03-05-2024, 10:11 AM)Bigiron Wrote: The only reason I hire Singaporeans is to fulfill the quotas and to get EDB subsidies. Without those, I'll be blunt, Singaporeans are too overpaid and underqualified for every role.
https://www.nuswhispers.com/confession/108726
in short, if the employer prefers cheap foreigners, please pack up and get lost from Singapore immediately.
03-05-2024, 11:24 AM
If you set up a business to earn money from Singaporeans, it's not unreasonable to hire Singaporeans. That said, the flexi work law is really quite dumb. I wonder which bird brain in MOM came up with it.
03-05-2024, 11:33 AM
How chap cai png and zichar stalls able to hire many foreign workers? Use names of virtual local workers?
03-05-2024, 11:34 AM
Seriously it is wise decision not to employ Singaporeans. They demand so much benefits and priced themselves out of the workforce. It is so much cheaper to employ foreigners. Now worst, they want flexible work hours, WFH, and 4 days work week because they are easily stressed and suffered mental sickness.
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03-05-2024, 11:46 AM
(03-05-2024, 10:29 AM)Manthink Wrote: Why post anonymously when the World knows SG and SGreans are NOT CHEAP ?
If coy finds too costly for their business and bottom line, they are welcomed to move to other *cheaper* places in ASEAN....
So why complain online ?
Ya la..
Cheapskate companies can always fly away to cheaper destinations.
Kpkb for what purposes? 🤣
03-05-2024, 12:03 PM
(03-05-2024, 10:58 AM)forum456 Wrote: in the past, employers can have 100% or 90% foreigners in the company.
now, MOM have rules to prevent this anti-Singaporean work culture.
if an employer does not feel anything wrong by having 90% foreigners in the company, there is no point having this kind of employers
in Singapore.
because this kind of employer cannot provide enough jobs for Singaporeans.
can overcome the quota easily.
just give them pr and they are considered local.
these are like toilet papers, and have near similar status as sg, except they cannot buy new flat.
but they don’t need new flats, because they have much nicer home in their homeland.
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03-05-2024, 12:30 PM
I think that question in last para is worth thinking about. What is your value you bring to any organisation.
Going back to the TS, if his company is only interested in getting subsidies and using SG as a base means likely tax free haven for 5 or 10 years. Is he/she saying that the company is actually not profitable or viable without the benefits given out by Singapore? If so shouldn't employ foreigners but instead move to a cheaper location outside of Singapore.
Going back to the TS, if his company is only interested in getting subsidies and using SG as a base means likely tax free haven for 5 or 10 years. Is he/she saying that the company is actually not profitable or viable without the benefits given out by Singapore? If so shouldn't employ foreigners but instead move to a cheaper location outside of Singapore.
03-05-2024, 02:30 PM
(03-05-2024, 10:11 AM)Bigiron Wrote: The only reason I hire Singaporeans is to fulfill the quotas and to get EDB subsidies. Without those, I'll be blunt, Singaporeans are too overpaid and underqualified for every role.
https://www.nuswhispers.com/confession/108726
The only reason I vote PAP is to fulfill the 60% quotas and to get PG/Merdeka goodies and . Without those, I'll be blunt, PAP ministers are too overpaid and underqualified for every role.
Will you pay a $1 millions for a Army General like Tan Chuan Jin to be minister ?
03-05-2024, 02:54 PM
(03-05-2024, 02:30 PM)forum456 Wrote: The only reason I vote PAP is to fulfill the 60% quotas and to get PG/Merdeka goodies and . Without those, I'll be blunt, PAP ministers are too overpaid and underqualified for every role.
Will you pay a $1 millions for a Army General like Tan Chuan Jin to be minister ?
We follow a very old system from China where scholars competed in very tough exam, and the best of the best made it to work in the Imperial Palace.
PAP recruits scholars but because our President's Scholars are bonded in the saf, you choose to call them army generals instead of scholars. I suppose the chabors who are bonded elsewhere would shut your mouth.
I don't know what you want, how good is good for you..if you still want the best of the best from the world, then we need more new citizens. Maybe and hopefully someone from China will condescend to come here to become a new citizen and we need a million of them given our low TFR.
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03-05-2024, 03:47 PM
(03-05-2024, 11:05 AM)forum456 Wrote: in short, if the employer prefers cheap foreigners, please pack up and get lost from Singapore immediately.
Employer are like that one ...
I once dressed down a foreigner who complain about how ex SG and SGreans pay are and says he will hire "more qualified" and cheaper foreigners if he got the chance.
I Googled for GDP per capital on my phone and shows him this chart...
Then with a smile at him asking - "Why don't you move out to other MUCH "cheaper" 9 other countries in ASEAN" ?
That shut his mouth for a min....
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03-05-2024, 03:56 PM
(03-05-2024, 02:54 PM)Oyk Wrote: We follow a very old system from China where scholars competed in very tough exam, and the best of the best made it to work in the Imperial Palace. PAP recruits scholars but because our President's Scholars are bonded in the saf, you choose to call them army generals instead of scholars. I suppose the chabors who are bonded elsewhere would shut your mouth. I don't know what you want, how good is good for you..if you still want the best of the best from the world, then we need more new citizens. Maybe and hopefully someone from China will condescend to come here to become a new citizen and we need a million of them given our low TFR.
Topic is about employers wanting to exploit "cheap" foreign worker and this clueless CECA-minded Oyk complains about scholars and SAF...
What relevant is there ?
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03-05-2024, 05:05 PM
Many Large Foreign MNCs don’t even bother about EDB Grants. So if local SMEs or GLCs want the Grants, they have to compete in the open market to hire locals and for some cases, overpay them like CECA.
03-05-2024, 05:45 PM
(03-05-2024, 03:56 PM)Manthink Wrote: Topic is about employers wanting to exploit "cheap" foreign worker and this clueless CECA-minded Oyk complains about scholars and SAF...
What relevant is there ?
Pay cheap foreign workers from China $1 million?
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03-05-2024, 06:00 PM
Underqualified. Why whisper NUS then?
03-05-2024, 07:07 PM
Those foreigners who complain that Singaporeans are expensive because they want to take over our job and pay. If they take over our job, would the foreigners expect the same pay? Of course lah.
03-05-2024, 09:48 PM
Well …. good enough … we can now tell those foreign traxhes … it's actually Singaporeans creating jobs for them
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04-05-2024, 02:39 AM
another issue created generated by the almighty pap
04-05-2024, 08:41 AM
(03-05-2024, 10:58 AM)forum456 Wrote: in the past, employers can have 100% or 90% foreigners in the company.
now, MOM have rules to prevent this anti-Singaporean work culture.
if an employer does not feel anything wrong by having 90% foreigners in the company, there is no point having this kind of employers
in Singapore.
because this kind of employer cannot provide enough jobs for Singaporeans.
It is the lousy system that allows such thing to happen.
Employers only go for maximise profit.
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04-05-2024, 09:41 AM
"Singaporeans are too overpaid and underqualified"
Overpaid we maybe have to agree
but underqualified is something is govt that need to listen
how can our education sys produce underqualified,
is because degree holders flooded the market, putting older with only dip and Ite on the fence
or our U or poly grad lousier than foreign
or reskilled course half utilized by Sporeans
If so, Govt review their KPI and also prepare when AI knocking the doors.
Many jobs have to go or reduce role and pay in next few years.
Setting the quotas is essential.
Overpaid we maybe have to agree
but underqualified is something is govt that need to listen
how can our education sys produce underqualified,
is because degree holders flooded the market, putting older with only dip and Ite on the fence
or our U or poly grad lousier than foreign
or reskilled course half utilized by Sporeans
If so, Govt review their KPI and also prepare when AI knocking the doors.
Many jobs have to go or reduce role and pay in next few years.
Setting the quotas is essential.
04-05-2024, 11:57 AM
So they forget why they open branch in SG.
To scam singkies monies with the help of pap.
To scam singkies monies with the help of pap.
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