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#61

(06-04-2024, 12:48 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Ya...the fact is Allah did not speak to Muhammad in the Quran and neither did Allah speaks to me...

So me and Muhammad..we are on the same page.. Big Grin
Allah will speak to you on the day of Judgement while Jesus clapping for your stupidity
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#62

(06-04-2024, 12:24 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  No, our prophet wasn't lusting for a young girl. If he lusted for young girls, there would be many Aisha in his harem. But as we all know, Aisha was the only virgin he married. The other wives were mostly elderly divorcees.

Faisal Manap is only 48 years old.  If he comes to my constituency holding hands with a 9 year old child, and introducing her as his girlfriend, I will write him off immediately.

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#63

(06-04-2024, 12:48 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Ya...the fact is Allah did not speak to Muhammad in the Quran and neither did Allah speaks to me...

So me and Muhammad..we are on the same page.. Big Grin

I would be terrified if Allah speaks to me.  I hope he does not.

I would love it if Jesus appears to me and speaks to me....it is a privilege I don't think I am blessed to have, which some peepur said they had.

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#64

(06-04-2024, 12:50 PM)Hope Wrote:  Allah will speak to you on the day of Judgement while Jesus clapping for your stupidity

No. Jesus will speak to me on judgement day ..no one else! Not even Allah!
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#65

(06-04-2024, 12:56 PM)Oyk Wrote:  I would be terrified if Allah speaks to me.  I hope he does not.

I would love it if Jesus appears to me and speaks to me....it is a privilege I don't think I am blessed to have, which some peepur said they had.
Allah( Lord in the heaven) will speak to you on the day of Judgement, while Jesus clapping for your stupidity.
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#66

Verily, Allah and His angels pray (yusalloona) for the prophet. O ye who believe! pray for him (salloo) and salute him with a salutation! S. 33:56 Palmer

Who is Allah praying to? Jesus?  
If Allah needs to pray then he is not the highest order..
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#67

(06-04-2024, 01:00 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  No. Jesus will speak to me on judgement day ..no one else! Not even Allah!
Allah  means Lord of the worlds as Arab Christian call him
Jesus will speak to you to remind your stupidity while you were on this earth.
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#68

(06-04-2024, 01:02 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Verily, Allah and His angels pray (yusalloona) for the prophet. O ye who believe! pray for him (salloo) and salute him with a salutation! S. 33:56 Palmer

Who is Allah praying to? Jesus?  
If Allah needs to pray then he is not the highest order..

Islam never claimed Allah prayed to Jesus
Quran 33;56
Indeed, Allah showers His blessings upon the Prophet, and His angels pray for him. O believers! Invoke Allah’s blessings upon him, and salute him with worthy greetings of peace.
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#69

(06-04-2024, 01:05 PM)Hope Wrote:  Islam never claimed Allah prayed to Jesus

He prays to himself?
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#70

(06-04-2024, 01:06 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  He prays to himself?
Quran 33:56
Indeed, Allah showers His blessings upon the Prophet, and His angels pray for him. O  believers! Invoke Allah’s blessings upon him, and salute him with worthy greetings of peace.
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#71

(06-04-2024, 01:03 PM)Hope Wrote:  Allah  means Lord of the worlds as Arab Christian call him
Jesus will speak to you to remind your stupidity while you were on this earth.

Zzz...so you very smart?  Big Grin
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#72

(06-04-2024, 01:10 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Zzz...so you very smart?  Big Grin
If I am smart I will not chatting with you😜
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#73

(06-04-2024, 01:02 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Verily, Allah and His angels pray (yusalloona) for the prophet. O ye who believe! pray for him (salloo) and salute him with a salutation! S. 33:56 Palmer

Who is Allah praying to? Jesus?  
If Allah needs to pray then he is not the highest order..

You want the Imam to run away from this thread?   Rotfl

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#74

(06-04-2024, 01:07 PM)Hope Wrote:  Quran 33:56
Indeed, Allah showers His blessings upon the Prophet, and His angels pray for him. O  believers! Invoke Allah’s blessings upon him, and salute him with worthy greetings of peace.

Its clear that there is a coruption of the word Salat in the quran which reffers to Allah doing the action,even hadiths confirm that Allah does Pray so there is evidence from the early muslims who spoke classical arabic that Salat cannot mean anything else but the prayer, You have many muslims here claiming Salat can mean mercy ,blessing and so on but in the Hadiths mohammed clearly made a distinction between salat(prayer), barrakah(blessing) according to this mutawatir hadiths.

Al-Bukhari recorded that Abu Sa`id Al-Khudri said: “We said, `O Messenger of Allah, this is the Salam upon you, but how do we send Salah upon you?’ He said…
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#75

(06-04-2024, 01:13 PM)Oyk Wrote:  You want the Imam to run away from this thread?   Rotfl

Muslim never runaway Muslim never mock
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#76

(06-04-2024, 01:13 PM)Oyk Wrote:  You want the Imam to run away from this thread?   Rotfl

I will run away later leaving the whole thread for him to kaki kon kaki song... Big Grin
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#77

(06-04-2024, 12:34 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Average life span was 40?? Mohammad was way past 50 and he took in more wives who weren't able to conceive..."old hens?"

That's the problem with Islam...if you want to take a underage child for marriage..you window dress by calling her young woman Big Grin ... I already make 2 distinct in the bible, it addressed a 12 yrs old girl as "talitha koum" meaning small girl and Mary as a woman...

Aisha was still playing with a doll when she was taken! Young woman playing with a doll?

I know enough women who still have plenty of dolls like hello kitty and such. A mother will still play with dolls with her young daughter, which could be what Aisha was doing, playing dolls with small girls while she was already a young woman.

The other part you need to know is the prophet waited 2 years before the consummation of marriage and even then, it was because of gossip. People were asking why the prophet didn't take Aisha into his home after so long. They were wondering if something was wrong with Aisha. So the parents of Aisha went to the prophet to ask him that and only then did the prophet take Aisha into his home.

And if you have studied the life of Aisha, she was a dragon lady. After the prophet passed away, she became the foremost teacher of Islamic jurisprudence and men would come from far away to study from her and she used to scold some men for being misogynistic towards her. 

If you're a pedo, you would want the girl as young as possible and you would want as many as you can have.
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#78

(06-04-2024, 01:15 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Its clear that there is a coruption of the word Salat in the quran which reffers to Allah doing the action,even hadiths confirm that Allah does Pray so there is evidence from the early muslims who spoke classical arabic that Salat cannot mean anything else but the prayer, You have many muslims here claiming Salat can mean mercy ,blessing and so on but in the Hadiths mohammed clearly made a distinction between salat(prayer), barrakah(blessing) according to this mutawatir hadiths.

Al-Bukhari recorded that Abu Sa`id Al-Khudri said: “We said, `O Messenger of Allah, this is the Salam upon you, but how do we send Salah upon you?’ He said…

Salam and salat are different.
Salat Which five daily prayers can be performed to Allah only
Salam is greeting peace to anyone.I can greet you.we can greet all the 25 prophets when we hear there names.
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#79

(06-04-2024, 01:02 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Verily, Allah and His angels pray (yusalloona) for the prophet. O ye who believe! pray for him (salloo) and salute him with a salutation! S. 33:56 Palmer

Who is Allah praying to? Jesus?  
If Allah needs to pray then he is not the highest order..

Why don't you ask our scholars how to read that verse? 

I will always refer to Christian scholars to understand the Bible. So I recommend you refer to our Muslim scholars to understand the Quranic verses.

Do you think you can find even 1 Islamic scholar who says the verse means Allah prays?
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#80

(06-04-2024, 01:22 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Why don't you ask our scholars how to read that verse? 

I will always refer to Christian scholars to understand the Bible. So I recommend you refer to our Muslim scholars to understand the Quranic verses.

Do you think you can find even 1 Islamic scholar who says the verse means Allah prays?

why does Allah pray for Muhammad? Surah 33:43, 33:56, and 2:157?
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#81

(06-04-2024, 01:28 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  why does Allah pray for Muhammad? Surah 33:43, 33:56, and 2:157?

It means Allah showers blessings on the Prophet.
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#82

(06-04-2024, 01:31 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  It means Allah showers blessings on the Prophet.

Why did the Muslim community change the words in Surah 33:56 (pray for blessings) in all translated versions of the Quran and changed the meaning of the verse in the Quran for all non-Arabic speakers? Who is Allah praying to?
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#83

(06-04-2024, 01:28 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  why does Allah pray for Muhammad? Surah 33:43, 33:56, and 2:157?


Quran 33:43

He is the One Who showers His blessings upon you—and His angels pray for you—so that He may bring you out of darkness and into light. For He is ever Merciful to the believers.

Quran 33:56
Indeed, Allah showers His blessings upon the Prophet, and His angels pray for him. O  believers! Invoke Allah’s blessings upon him, and salute him with worthy greetings of peace.

Quran 2;157

They are the ones who will receive Allah’s blessings and mercy. And it is they who are ˹rightly˺ guided.
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#84

(06-04-2024, 01:41 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Why did the Muslim community change the words in Surah 33:56 (pray for blessings) in all translated versions of the Quran and changed the meaning of the verse in the Quran for all non-Arabic speakers? Who is Allah praying to?

The Quran is preserved. No one can change any words. 

Who told you the Muslim community changed the word (pray for blessings) in the translated version of the Quran? I'm interested to know that. Does that person who told you that a qualified person? Is he a Quranic scholar?
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#85

(06-04-2024, 02:03 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  The Quran is preserved. No one can change any words. 

Who told you the Muslim community changed the word (pray for blessings) in the translated version of the Quran? I'm interested to know that. Does that person who told you that a qualified person? Is he a Quranic scholar?

https://aslamsheriqbal.wordpress.com/201...raying-to/
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#86

(06-04-2024, 02:09 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  https://aslamsheriqbal.wordpress.com/201...raying-to/

Is he a scholar of the Quran?
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#87

There is no direct English word for Salah/Solat
While the English word prayer conveys a general meaning of supplication or invocation, Salah is an act of submission to the Supreme Creator Allah and is expressed in a specific and well defined physical act embodying the spirit.
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