Did Jesus really dies for you???

(01-04-2024, 01:50 PM)luncheonmeat Wrote:  In the bible, both old and new testament, Jesus is referenced to or addressed by many names.  One does not contradict the other. Jesus is ONE with God therefore he is all ENCOMPASSING: LORD, SAVIOUR, TEACHER, RABBI, MAN, SON of GOD, MESSIAH.  You are confused and have difficulty understanding and accepting because the Spirit of knowledge and understanding have been withheld from you. Pray for the spirit of understanding because at this time you will not even understand if a thousand Christian scholars tried explaining to you since your heart and mind are closed to its teachings even though something is making you seek answers from the CHRISTIAN  Bible and not the Quran. If you truly feel Christianity is a fallacy, just dismiss it, why do you keep questioning Christians. Do you see any Christian keep asking questions [except dismissive ones] about Islam.....

Actually got. Many Christians are very dismissive of other people's religions and openly say it. And they keep pushing their narratives as facts even though it's their own opinions. Sorry to say this, but it is very irritating  Big Grin

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(01-04-2024, 01:37 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Quran copied and rewrote the history of Jesus 
Added different spices to confuse reader

Yesterday i posted 110 reasons why Quran is different from Bible. Do you want me to post it again?
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(01-04-2024, 01:53 PM)Fancy-Bus8506 Wrote:  That was during covid time. The registration is closed. I'm lazy to find a current session because I know you're not serious to attend. If you're serious, you would have googled yourself.

Then what is the point in going on.....one corner lepak better Big Grin
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(01-04-2024, 01:00 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  انا لا افهم العربية
لا أستطيع حتى أن أفهم الكتاب المقدس ناهيك عن القرآن

wrong orientation
should be like this


لا أستطيع حتى أن أفهم الكتاب المقدس ناهيك عن القرآن
انا لا افهم العربية
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(01-04-2024, 01:45 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Bible in chinese, service in chinese, pastor is chinese.
You have that in a mosque? If you have I join ok Big Grin

What is the Chinese name for 
1)Jesus 
2)Mary
3)Lord of the world 
4)Father in the heaven
5)God
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(01-04-2024, 01:50 PM)luncheonmeat Wrote:  In the bible, both old and new testament, Jesus is referenced to or addressed by many names.  One does not contradict the other. Jesus is ONE with God therefore he is all ENCOMPASSING: LORD, SAVIOUR, TEACHER, RABBI, MAN, SON of GOD, MESSIAH.  You are confused and have difficulty understanding and accepting because the Spirit of knowledge and understanding have been withheld from you. Pray for the spirit of understanding because at this time you will not even understand if a thousand Christian scholars tried explaining to you since your heart and mind are closed to its teachings even though something is making you seek answers from the CHRISTIAN  Bible and not the Quran. If you truly feel Christianity is a fallacy, just dismiss it, why do you keep questioning Christians. Do you see any Christian keep asking questions [except dismissive ones] about Islam.....

It is not difficult to see how the authors embellished the story to further their theology. After Mark was written, the status of Jesus was elevated and in Matthew, we see the promotion, from teacher to lord. There is a study on this, known as Christology. Why is there such a study? Because it is a fact that Jesus's status was elevated, from man to God.

And remember, I am only using your scholars to explain all these to you.
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(01-04-2024, 01:37 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Hadith my friend. He negotiated from 50 times prayers to 5 on the advice of moses
It is a good negotiation. If we have to pray 50 times how can we have time to chat with you.
This is reason why he wants us to pray 50 times 
“I did not create jinn and humans except to worship Me”Quran 51:56
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(01-04-2024, 01:55 PM)luncheonmeat Wrote:  Same can be said of the Koran. Mohammed fell asleep in the cave but emerged with all the verses of his 'opinion'.

The Qur'an sent to our prophet is NOT an opinion, it is a recorded historical fact. 

The first few verses revealed to him while he was in a cave, is not an opinion, it is a recorded historical fact.

That rude Christian who said Jesus is the only way to salvation or paradise is an opinion.
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(01-04-2024, 02:10 PM)Hope Wrote:  It is a good negotiation. If we have to pray 50 times how can we have time to chat with you.
This is reason why he wants us to pray 50 times 
“I did not create jinn and humans except to worship Me”Quran 51:56

Did moses negotiate with God to bring down the 10 commandments to 3? He can do so if he wants but he doesn't because he feared God...who does muhammad thinks he is?? negotiating with a fishmonger?...if I were God, I will not entertain him 9 times...your god is fickled.. he listens to a man...therefore he is not God!
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(01-04-2024, 01:30 PM)Fancy-Bus8506 Wrote:  Even Christian scholars have failed to get the original versions but here you are telling me to go find at Vatican and Israel?

Please reread your own qns. If you are trying to say Islam is the one true faith because you have the original manuscript from Mohammed and Christians do not, then I will tell you Judaism has greater authority over Islam because their religion is older and they have many more ancient manuscripts than the Koran. 

At the end of the day it is God who matters, not our fallible human knowledge. We all are  accountable to God come judgement day. If you live by the law and have failed it due to ignorance of the law,then woe is you. How Blessed are those who trust and follow Jesus who knows the law, passed it and is on the board of Supreme Judges.
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(01-04-2024, 02:13 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Did moses negotiate with God to bring down the 10 commandments to 3? He can do so if he wants but he doesn't because he feared God...who does muhammad thinks he is?? negotiating with a fishmonger?...if I were God, I will not entertain him 9 times...your god is fickled.. he listens to a man...therefore he is not God!

So, you don't like it that our prophet was given such an honor of a meeting and you also don't like it that God can be accommodating to our prophet's request.

Ok. But that doesn't negate anything. You don't like it doesn't mean it is not true.
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(01-04-2024, 02:13 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Did moses negotiate with God to bring down the 10 commandments to 3? He can do so if he wants but he doesn't because he feared God...who does muhammad thinks he is?? negotiating with a fishmonger?...if I were God, I will not entertain him 9 times...your god is fickled.. he listens to a man...therefore he is not God!

Can you list the 10 commandments?Do Christian follow any commandments?
Islam has five commandments.Prayer is the second commandment. He didn’t negotiate to cancel the prayer.He negotiated only time of prayer.
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(01-04-2024, 02:13 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Did moses negotiate with God to bring down the 10 commandments to 3? He can do so if he wants but he doesn't because he feared God...who does muhammad thinks he is?? negotiating with a fishmonger?...if I were God, I will not entertain him 9 times...your god is fickled.. he listens to a man...therefore he is not God!

Err... Abraham also bargained with god wor. When god wanted to destroy the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah, he asked him to spare the lives of the righteous.

Then god agrees to spare the cities if 50 righteous people can be found and eventually agrees to spare them if 10 righteous people can be found.

How come in this case can bargain?  Big Grin

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(01-04-2024, 02:17 PM)luncheonmeat Wrote:  Please reread your own qns. If you are trying to say Islam is the one true faith because you have the original manuscript from Mohammed and Christians do not, then I will tell you Judaism has greater authority over Islam because their religion is older and they have many more ancient manuscripts than the Koran. 


I'm surprised you don't know about the Jewish scriptures, of which, not a single one can be trusted, much worse than the New Testament.
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If you want Chinese Quran, please contact this Singapore Chinese man

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(01-04-2024, 02:00 PM)Fancy-Bus8506 Wrote:  It doesn't matter. I'm not here to convince you that the Koran is real.
I'm just here to ask why you think that your bible is correct since you do not possess the original version.

lol. Same qn can be posed abt the Koran. Original so cannot be erroneous to begin with?
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(01-04-2024, 01:42 PM)Hope Wrote:  Our God wants to strive in this world for success of both the worlds.

We are not suppose to love the world or the Love of the Father is not in u.
Love  God which is the 1st commandment 
Who holds the key to heaven n hell?

 No weapon that forms against me shall prospers.
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(01-04-2024, 02:20 PM)Blasterlord2 Wrote:  Err... Abraham also bargained with god wor. When god wanted to destroy the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah, he asked him to spare the lives of the righteous.

Then god agrees to spare the cities if 50 righteous people can be found and eventually agrees to spare them if 10 righteous people can be found.

How come in this case can bargain?  Big Grin

He got bargain so many times boh
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(01-04-2024, 02:21 PM)Hope Wrote:  If you want Chinese Quran, please contact this Singapore Chinese man


Christians read bible not Quran

 No weapon that forms against me shall prospers.
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(01-04-2024, 02:08 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  It is not difficult to see how the authors embellished the story to further their theology. After Mark was written, the status of Jesus was elevated and in Matthew, we see the promotion, from teacher to lord. There is a study on this, known as Christology. Why is there such a study? Because it is a fact that Jesus's status was elevated, from man to God.

And remember, I am only using your scholars to explain all these to you.

YOU MOTHERFARKER CHEEBY

(01-04-2024, 02:08 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  After Mark was written, the status of Jesus was elevated and in Matthew, we see the promotion, from teacher to lord.

LET ME TELL YOU THIS

WHY IS JESUS CALLED SON OF DAVID

Seventeen verses in the New Testament describe Jesus as the “son of David.” But the question arises, how could Jesus be the son of David if David lived approximately 1,000 years before Jesus?

and Jesus was called Lord by his great great great grand father David

in the bible it is written


Whose Son Is the Messiah?
Mark 12

35 While Jesus was teaching in the temple courts, he asked, “Why do the teachers of the law say that the Messiah is the son of David?

36 David himself, speaking by the Holy Spirit, declared:

The Lord said to my Lord:
Sit at my right hand
until I put your enemies
under your feet.

37 David himself calls him ‘Lord.’ How then can he be his son?”

The large crowd listened to him with delight.



(01-04-2024, 02:08 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  After Mark was written, the status of Jesus was elevated and in Matthew, we see the promotion, from teacher to lord.


YOU insinuating MOTHERFARKER CHEEBY SATAN

Jesus was called LORD thousand years BEFORE HIS 1st coming

YOU insinuating MOTHERFARKER CHEEBY SATAN
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(01-04-2024, 02:25 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  We are not suppose to love the world or the Love of the Father is not in u.
Love  God which is the 1st commandment 
Who holds the key to heaven n hell?

If you don’t love the world how can Pastors travel by private jets and consume expensive things?
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(01-04-2024, 01:56 PM)Hope Wrote:  Yesterday i posted 110 reasons why Quran is different from Bible. Do you want me to post it again?

No thanks not interested

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(01-04-2024, 02:24 PM)luncheonmeat Wrote:  lol. Same qn can be posed abt the Koran. Original so cannot be erroneous to begin with?

The Quran cannot be erroneous because the Quran is from God.

It so happens that we have the Quran in its original language, still pristine.
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(01-04-2024, 02:28 PM)Hope Wrote:  If you don’t love the world how can Pastors travel by private jets and consume expensive things?

Pastors is pastors not me.

 No weapon that forms against me shall prospers.
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(01-04-2024, 02:26 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Christians read bible not Quran
Not all the Chinese are Christian.Other Chinese can contact him.
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(01-04-2024, 02:28 PM)grotesqueness Wrote:  YOU MOTHERFARKER CHEEBY


LET ME TELL YOU THIS

WHY IS JESUS CALLED SON OF DAVID

Seventeen verses in the New Testament describe Jesus as the “son of David.” But the question arises, how could Jesus be the son of David if David lived approximately 1,000 years before Jesus?

and Jesus was called Lord by his great great great grand father David

in the bible it is written


Whose Son Is the Messiah?
Mark 12

35 While Jesus was teaching in the temple courts, he asked, “Why do the teachers of the law say that the Messiah is the son of David?

36 David himself, speaking by the Holy Spirit, declared:

The Lord said to my Lord:
Sit at my right hand
until I put your enemies
    under your feet.

37 David himself calls him ‘Lord.’ How then can he be his son?”

The large crowd listened to him with delight.





YOU insinuating MOTHERFARKER CHEEBY SATAN

Jesus was called LORD thousand years BEFORE HIS 1st coming

YOU insinuating MOTHERFARKER CHEEBY SATAN

I don't have time to chat with you today. When I'm free, I promise to return to your post and chat with you.
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(01-04-2024, 02:28 PM)Hope Wrote:  If you don’t love the world how can Pastors travel by private jets and consume expensive things?

Got good got bad lah..2 sides of a coin

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wir...-108424901
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(01-04-2024, 02:33 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I don't have time to chat with you today. When I'm free, I promise to return to your post and chat with you.

i dont chat with SATAN

i sent them to HELL!!!!!!!!!!!
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(01-04-2024, 02:20 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I'm surprised you don't know about the Jewish scriptures, of which, not a single one can be trusted, much worse than the New Testament.

With that my epilogue in this thread is about due, follow whomever and whatever you trust. For me. Jesus is the living WORD who speaks to my soul, I will follow him even though I am a poor pupil. However trying to keep up is better than not having him in my sights at all.

God please Bless everyone here with LOVE and Spiritual Knowledge. Amen.
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(01-04-2024, 02:32 PM)Hope Wrote:  Not all the Chinese are Christian.Other Chinese can contact him.

See who is the dumb Chinese to contact him

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