It is unbelievable what has happened since and how China- Australian relationship has deteriorated so much.
I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams.
(13-08-2022, 11:06 AM)sgbuffett Wrote: Australian prime minister at that time told his people China is a friend and Xi has set the target for a democratic China.
It is unbelievable what has happened since and how China- Australian relationship has deteriorated so much.
https://youtu.be/1FjOIqSuhO8?t=5m30s
(13-08-2022, 11:06 AM)sgbuffett Wrote: Australian prime minister at that time told his people China is a friend and Xi has set the target for a democratic China.
It is unbelievable what has happened since and how China- Australian relationship has deteriorated so much.
https://youtu.be/1FjOIqSuhO8?t=5m30s
(13-08-2022, 11:06 AM)sgbuffett Wrote: Australian prime minister at that time told his people China is a friend and Xi has set the target for a democratic China.
It is unbelievable what has happened since and how China- Australian relationship has deteriorated so much.
https://youtu.be/1FjOIqSuhO8?t=5m30s
(13-08-2022, 11:30 AM)cityhantam Wrote: Listen to the wise man!
Lee Kuan Yew: Decolonisation: “I have never believed that democracy brings progress”, Hong Kong 1997
(13-08-2022, 12:07 PM)grotesqueness Wrote: usa and france started democracy adopted it in their system
today usa is no 1 in economy and trade
LKY success is at the tit of malay peninsul.... very smalls success with the help of the american
(13-08-2022, 11:30 AM)cityhantam Wrote: Listen to the wise man!
Lee Kuan Yew: Decolonisation: “I have never believed that democracy brings progress”, Hong Kong 1997
(13-08-2022, 12:25 PM)cityhantam Wrote: Prosperity in western countries did not come from their style of democracy.
When they were robbing from natives of North America, South America, Africa and Asia, etc, did they use democratic means to get rich?
When the forced China to allow them to sell opium, did they use democratic means?
Etc etc etc......
(13-08-2022, 12:38 PM)sgbuffett Wrote: This are the highest human development index countries..
Tell me which ones don't have elections?
(13-08-2022, 12:07 PM)grotesqueness Wrote: usa and france started democracy adopted it in their system
today usa is no 1 in economy and trade
LKY success is at the tit of malay peninsul.... very smalls success with the help of the american
(13-08-2022, 12:46 PM)grotesqueness Wrote: you think china is SAINT HUH!
china also conquered land like the west did over 5000 years
All China's dynasties explained in 7 minutes (5,000 years of Chinese history) - YouTube
china also conquered vietnam but vietnam time after time break free from china
dont be farking be selective in your facts
i never said the west is SAINT
for me, the WEST is open to criticism
(13-08-2022, 12:25 PM)cityhantam Wrote: Prosperity in western countries did not come from their style of democracy.
When they were robbing from natives of North America, South America, Africa and Asia, etc, did they use democratic means to get rich?
When the forced China to allow them to sell opium, did they use democratic means?
Etc etc etc......
(13-08-2022, 01:23 PM)cityhantam Wrote: China's wars, historical, were mainly within China itself, or defending China.fark your with your version of your selective history
China did not go all the way to Africa to rob them of their gold etc., unlike Europeans and Assmericans! Neither did China Rob any country to enrich itself.
(13-08-2022, 04:57 PM)grotesqueness Wrote: fark your with your version of your selective history
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibet_under_Qing_rule
tibet is independence not part of china
Tibet considered itself an independent nation with only a "priest and patron" relationship with the Qing Dynasty