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(13-08-2022, 11:30 AM)cityhantam Wrote: Listen to the wise man!
Lee Kuan Yew: Decolonisation: “I have never believed that democracy brings progress”, Hong Kong 1997
This are the highest human development index countries..
Tell me which ones don't have elections?
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Just look at India as a 'fine' example of democracy. If you try to force democracy on a country that is not ready for it, you end up with a chaotic society.
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(13-08-2022, 12:25 PM)cityhantam Wrote: Prosperity in western countries did not come from their style of democracy.
When they were robbing from natives of North America, South America, Africa and Asia, etc, did they use democratic means to get rich?
When the forced China to allow them to sell opium, did they use democratic means?
Etc etc etc......
you think china is SAINT HUH!
china also conquered land like the west did over 5000 years
All China's dynasties explained in 7 minutes (5,000 years of Chinese history) - YouTube
china also conquered vietnam but vietnam time after time break free from china
dont be farking be selective in your facts
i never said the west is SAINT
for me, the WEST is open to criticism
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The fact remains Vietnam a separate country until today.
Is that conquering?
Even Deng hit Vietnam due to it's disturbing the yuannan province. Hit and withdrawn doesn't mean conquering.
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(13-08-2022, 12:38 PM)sgbuffett Wrote: This are the highest human development index countries..
Tell me which ones don't have elections?
Do you know how western countries became rich and prosperous?
Did they get Native Africans' approval to rob them of their gold, silver, land etc. and to make them slaves ?
Did they get approval of people of India to rob them of their gold, etc?
Did they get approval of people of China to force them to become opium addicts?
Did they get Native Americans' approval to rob them of their gold, silver, land etc.?
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(13-08-2022, 12:07 PM)grotesqueness Wrote: usa and france started democracy adopted it in their system
today usa is no 1 in economy and trade
LKY success is at the tit of malay peninsul.... very smalls success with the help of the american
Democracy is a good tool to supervise the govt not to deviate from people, but is no guarantee the nation will prosperity under it.
There are far more elected govt in the world but most are still third world or even staving.
Us become no.1 economy during WW1, and its industry is not damaged by the war.
and undisputed no. 1 only during WW2 after dethrone pound to be no.1 currency in trade
Us is still no.1 economy of the world but do not think they are the biggest trading country.
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(13-08-2022, 12:46 PM)grotesqueness Wrote: you think china is SAINT HUH!
china also conquered land like the west did over 5000 years
All China's dynasties explained in 7 minutes (5,000 years of Chinese history) - YouTube
china also conquered vietnam but vietnam time after time break free from china
dont be farking be selective in your facts
i never said the west is SAINT
for me, the WEST is open to criticism
China's wars, historical, were mainly within China itself, or defending China.
China did not go all the way to Africa to rob them of their gold etc., unlike Europeans and Assmericans! Neither did China Rob any country to enrich itself.
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Xi already said and demonstrated China is more democratic than many western countries. PRC r allowed to write and scold anything they like as Long as they dun touch the bottom line.
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(13-08-2022, 01:26 PM)teaserteam Wrote: Xi already said and demonstrated China is more democratic than many western countries. PRC r allowed to write and scold anything they like as Long as they dun touch the bottom line.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cyclist-fir...le-finger/
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(13-08-2022, 12:25 PM)cityhantam Wrote: Prosperity in western countries did not come from their style of democracy.
When they were robbing from natives of North America, South America, Africa and Asia, etc, did they use democratic means to get rich?
When the forced China to allow them to sell opium, did they use democratic means?
Etc etc etc......
yalor. robbing, stealing, killing, nonstop for the past 200 over yrs
their yang dogs still think they're saints. really stewpig df
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(13-08-2022, 01:23 PM)cityhantam Wrote: China's wars, historical, were mainly within China itself, or defending China.
China did not go all the way to Africa to rob them of their gold etc., unlike Europeans and Assmericans! Neither did China Rob any country to enrich itself.
fark your with your version of your selective history
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibet_under_Qing_rule
tibet is independence not part of china
Tibet considered itself an independent nation with only a "priest and patron" relationship with the Qing Dynasty
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(13-08-2022, 04:57 PM)grotesqueness Wrote: fark your with your version of your selective history
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibet_under_Qing_rule
tibet is independence not part of china
Tibet considered itself an independent nation with only a "priest and patron" relationship with the Qing Dynasty
You don't know that like Mongolians under Genges Khan, his children and grandchildren , Manchurians were invaders which invaded and conquered China?
Tibet was part of China during Qing Dynasty which was established by Manchurians, just like Taiwan Province.
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How come have Cockanathans who dont understand what is China democracy?
China democracy is 有房子住，有工作做 和三餐温饱！
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(13-08-2022, 07:53 PM)RiseofAsia Wrote: How come have Cockanathans who dont understand what is China democracy?
China democracy is 有房子住，有工作做 和三餐温饱！
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