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(17-03-2024, 05:47 PM)grotesqueness Wrote:  what is time to God
is there time in God world
we all experience time

does God deal everything He does in time

if there is no time in God world not in our world
so God can be any place any time any where

BUT ONE GOD

to us is many gods cause we have time

GET THE PICTURE
SUCKA


Yes, I got the picture you've given me.

One God cannot be destroyed and another God can be destroyed.
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(17-03-2024, 05:52 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Yes, I got the picture you've given me.

One God cannot be destroyed and another God can be destroyed.

destoried but restore
to tell us what ever we destroyed He can restore
but whatever He destroyed we cannot restore

it is up to you to see it
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(17-03-2024, 05:56 PM)grotesqueness Wrote:  destoried but restore
to tell us what ever we destroyed He can restore
but whatever He destroyed we cannot restore

it is up to you to see it

Yes, Jesus is the destroyable God which was restored at some point in time.

Yes, you said it.
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(17-03-2024, 06:00 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Yes, Jesus is the destroyable God which was restored at some point in time.

Yes, you said it.

yes the book wriiten on the third day the temple will be restored
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(17-03-2024, 06:08 PM)grotesqueness Wrote:  yes the book wriiten on the third day the temple will be restored

Can God die?
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(17-03-2024, 01:02 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  That doesn't answer my question. Why do you want someone else to pay for your wrongdoings? Why can't you be responsible for your own wrongdoings?

To me, that is a great injustice, to make an innocent man pay for the wrongs of another. If I accidentally break your flower pots, would you punish your own son in order to forgive my mistake?

 civilians die in war when it is not their choice to fight. Can the civilian go tell the head of the nation if you want to fight go fight alone...
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(17-03-2024, 06:09 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Can God die?

the answer is both can and cannot
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(17-03-2024, 06:09 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Can God die?

How many gods are there since the universe is so big...surely there are millions of habitable planets that contain lives... Big Grin
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(17-03-2024, 06:17 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  How many gods are there since the universe is so big...surely there are millions of habitable planets that contain lives... Big Grin

EVEN THE UNIVERSE WILL DIE ONE DAY


but not God and his kingdom
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 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(17-03-2024, 06:13 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:   civilians die in war when it is not their choice to fight. Can the civilian go tell the head of the nation if you want to fight go fight alone...

Hey man.

Your argument is about the will. I'm not questioning that at the moment. I'm questioning the justice. In any justice system, it is unjust to punish the innocent for the wrongdoing of the guilty. 

I'm sure any right-minded person will agree with me.
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(17-03-2024, 06:17 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  How many gods are there since the universe is so big...surely there are millions of habitable planets that contain lives... Big Grin

Aren't you a Christian? A Christian would not ask that question because Jesus already said "The Lord your God, the Lord is One".
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(17-03-2024, 06:13 PM)grotesqueness Wrote:  the answer is both can and cannot

This is where I get flabbergasted when discussing with Christians. You have a way of denying and affirming at the same time.
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(17-03-2024, 08:17 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  

Jesus will chase away many Christians. He will say to them, "Get away from me!".

Which Christians will get that treatment from Jesus? Do you have the answer? You must find the answer coz it might be you.
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(17-03-2024, 10:45 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  This is where I get flabbergasted when discussing with Christians. You have a way of denying and affirming at the same time.

that why  i said before
you see it from human wisdom
OR GOD wisdom
GOD WISDOM AND GOD TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE and ENLIGHTEN

your argument and answers with   human wisdom or man wisdom will always  leave you flabbergasted  and lost
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(17-03-2024, 10:47 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Jesus will chase away many Christians. He will say to them, "Get away from me!".

Which Christians will get that treatment from Jesus? Do you have the answer? You must find the answer coz it might be you.

Pachik Ali,U are like that Pharisee claimed self righteous 
Everyday find quarrel with Christians!

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(17-03-2024, 10:57 PM)grotesqueness Wrote:  that why  i said before
you see it from human wisdom
OR GOD wisdom
GOD WISDOM AND GOD TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE and ENLIGHTEN

your argument and answers with   human wisdom or man wisdom will always  leave you flabbergasted  and lost

Yes, I am human and I am limited by human wisdom. Now, who gives me the brain to think rationally and logically? It is God. That means, God wants me to use it to discern truth from falsehood. 

You expect me to believe God died for my sins and you also expect me to believe God cannot die. I cannot do that. My intellect will not accept it. And remember, Jesus said to love God with all our mind. How to do that when the mind just cannot accept it?
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(17-03-2024, 10:43 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Aren't you a Christian? A Christian would not ask that question because Jesus already said "The Lord your God, the Lord is One".

It is normal to be in doubts...we are not perfect no matter how we try but we keep the faith.. we will continue to sin till the day we die...sometimes we have to experience life as it is and stop thinking about things that contradict.. 

We might not have the knowledge to advise on what is your concerns..
But if you have the guts,..go take on a pastor or a priest who have far more knowledge than you..
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(17-03-2024, 11:04 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Pachik Ali,U are like that Pharisee claimed self righteous 
Everyday find quarrel with Christians!

I'm not quarreling. I am asking you to think it through because your salvation is at stake. 

What Jesus taught on how to achieve salvation is different from what St Paul taught. Is it a coincidence that many Christians are following St Paul's teachings and many Christians will be chased away by Jesus?

You cannot imagine eternity. If you get it wrong, you will spend eternity in hell. Think it carefully.
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(17-03-2024, 11:17 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I'm not quarreling. I am asking you to think it through because your salvation is at stake. 

What Jesus taught on how to achieve salvation is different from what St Paul taught. Is it a coincidence that many Christians are following St Paul's teachings and many Christians will be chased away by Jesus?

You cannot imagine eternity. If you get it wrong, you will spend eternity in hell. Think it carefully.

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(17-03-2024, 11:04 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Pachik Ali,U are like that Pharisee claimed self righteous 

The Pharisees said Jesus was claiming to be God. You agree with the Pharisees. I disagree with the Pharisees. And Jesus also disagrees with the Pharisees.

So pengyu. You are like the Pharisees, not me. Tio boh?
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(17-03-2024, 11:12 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Yes, I am human and I am limited by human wisdom. Now, who gives me the brain to think rationally and logically? It is God. That means, God wants me to use it to discern truth from falsehood. 

yes
God give us a brain to think rationally and logically
BUT THAT WAS BEFORE YOU ATE THE APPLE

NOW AFTER WE ATE THE APPLE (the knowledge of the good the bad and the ugly)
YOU NO LONGER CAN think rationally and logically
YOU NO LONGER CAN JUST think rationally and logically

there is a demon in you and you got to fight to think rationally and logically
YOU NO LONGER CAN JUST think rationally and logically



(17-03-2024, 11:12 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  You expect me to believe God died for my sins and you also expect me to believe God cannot die. I cannot do that. My intellect will not accept it. And remember, Jesus said to love God with all our mind. How to do that when the mind just cannot accept it?

yes
God die and was raise from his grave three days later

maybe not now to accept the truth
i also know you wouldnt accept it

DONT WORRY He will COMETH FOR YOU and YOU WILL SEE HE rise FROM HIS GRAVE
YOU WILL BELIEVE ONCE YOU SEE HIM
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(17-03-2024, 11:23 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  The Pharisees said Jesus was claiming to be God. You agree with the Pharisees. I disagree with the Pharisees. And Jesus also disagrees with the Pharisees.

So pengyu. You are like the Pharisees, not me. Tio boh?
Pachik Ali u claim u are not Pharisee but u very paisee Tio BOH?

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(17-03-2024, 11:23 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  The Pharisees said Jesus was claiming to be God. You agree with the Pharisees. I disagree with the Pharisees. And Jesus also disagrees with the Pharisees.

So pengyu. You are like the Pharisees, not me. Tio boh?

Pengyu..I urge you to write your doubts and concerns and email to at least 10 churches and wait for their replies.This will be good for your mental wellbeing...or else you will be eaten by your doubts... Big Grin
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(17-03-2024, 11:26 PM)grotesqueness Wrote:  yes
God give us a brain to think rationally and logically
BUT THAT WAS BEFORE YOU ATE THE APPLE

NOW AFTER WE ATE THE APPLE  (the knowledge of the good the  bad and the ugly)
YOU NO LONGER CAN  think rationally and logically
YOU NO LONGER CAN  JUST think rationally and logically

there is a demon in you and you got to fight to think rationally and logically
YOU NO LONGER CAN  JUST think rationally and logically




yes
God die and was raise from his grave three days later

maybe not now to accept the truth
i also know you wouldnt accept it

DONT WORRY He will COMETH FOR YOU and YOU WILL SEE HE rise FROM HIS GRAVE
YOU WILL BELIEVE ONCE YOU SEE HIM

The original sin is another thing that wasn't taught by Jesus, or any of the previous prophets and messengers before him.

It would be a gross injustice to put the wrongdoing of one man on me. I didn't do anything to be a part of that transgression. In the Quran, the story of the fall of Adam delivers different lessons. We learn what is mercy and what is forgiveness. What we get from the Bible on the same event is God's injustice.
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(17-03-2024, 11:29 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Pachik Ali u claim u are not Pharisee but u very paisee Tio BOH?

Is paiseh and paisee the same? If so then no, I am not paiseh. Smile

I hope to save a soul. Smile
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(17-03-2024, 11:41 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Is paiseh and paisee the same? If so then no, I am not paiseh. Smile

I hope to save a soul. Smile
U r trying to destroy souls u very paisee not paiseh
Serpent spirit!

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(17-03-2024, 11:30 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Pengyu..I urge you to write your doubts and concerns and email to at least 10 churches and wait for their replies.This will be good for your mental wellbeing...or else you will be eaten by your doubts... Big Grin

What makes you think I am going mental? LOL

No, I am doing fine. I like discussing religion and I like talking to people about God.
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(17-03-2024, 11:44 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  U r trying to destroy souls u very paisee not paiseh

I'm just a warner. I cannot touch your soul.

If what I have been writing here is destroying your soul, it is not me doing it. It is the work of truth. When truth comes, falsehood will crumble.
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(17-03-2024, 11:44 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  What makes you think I am going mental? LOL

No, I am doing fine. I like discussing religion and I like talking to people about God.
U better go imh check up n take some medicines to calm your nerves 
From morning till now u try to mislead Christian ‘s  beliefs 

Instead of fasting n pray 5 times u so free to attack us.
I already wanted to ignore u but u kept mentioning my nick

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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