[theold]

If approved, the Johor-Singapore Special Economic Zone would be nearly twice the size of China’s Shenzhen at 3,505 square kilometres.

Johor is also proposing 16 economic sectors as part of the zone, including electrical and electronics, manufacturing, healthcare and tourism, he said.

That includes the Johor Bahru city centre and Country Garden’s struggling US$100 billion megacity Forest City.

https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/gen...e?tbref=hp

[moonrab]

The result will not be the same as SZ hub. 
With 2 different countries Geopolitical interest, Political differences, Demography, etc...

And most importantly, who to pours in the $ billions of investment for building the JB infrastructures?
Definitely not from Singapore, we are just too tiny without any resources.

[WhatDoYouThink!]

Not sure about fc, but jb city will become a boomtown soon

[Oyk]

The result will not be the same as SZ hub. 
With 2 different countries Geopolitical interest, Political differences, Demography, etc...

And most importantly, who to pours in the $ billions of investment for building the JB infrastructures?
Definitely not from Singapore, we are just too tiny without any resources.

I don't think the Johor side will make it if their government put bumis there. In the end it will drag Singapore down with the negative synergy.

But if they put jhks there....and by jhks I mean Han Malaysians, we will see job losses. Our low TFR is now boosted up by mainly jhks but when they can live and work in Johor, why would they come here?

[WhatDoYouThink!]

Aiya dun over speculate with your tiny brains which hv been proven wrong many times in the past

[moonrab]

Not sure about fc, but jb city will become a boomtown soon

JB will boom if KL federal government willing to pump $Billions investment into it.
Similarly to Beijing pumping in $Billions into SZ for decades.

[moonrab]

I don't think the Johor side will make it if their government put bumis there. In the end it will drag Singapore down with the negative synergy.

But if they put jhks there....and by jhks I mean Han Malaysians, we will see job losses. Our low TFR is now boosted up by mainly jhks but when they can live and work in Johor, why would they come here?

It is all about investment $ rolling into the JB infrastructures. And not into politicians pockets.

However in the first place, the Malaysian government willing to invest $ billions into JB?
Or they still prefer to develop Selangor, etc.

Similarly to the new Capital of Indonesia, all foreign investors still waiting for $ to roll into the infrastructures before making the first move.

As for Singapore TFR, since long time ago, we already diversify foreign workers sources from other countries. China, India, Taiwan, HK, etc..

Of course the Malaysian is still the easiest choice but it will change once JB becoming more develop with higher salary. Currently it is about MYR 3K average salary. 
But that is way below international standard. Inorder to retain the Malaysian workers, this salary needs to be double before we see results. 
Once the salary rises to double, JB will become expensive too, for the cheapo foreign companies. So it is not a straightforward path for JB too.

[WhatDoYouThink!]

If johorians are too demanding, they'll be replaced by plenty from other cities/towns. My friends' factories hire local managers at rm 5 to 6k, all very cheap, good and happy

[Niubee]

If johorians are too demanding, they'll be replaced by plenty from other cities/towns. My friends' factories hire local managers at rm 5 to 6k, all very cheap, good and happy

I know one boss doing washing biz in sg. Employ Msian at 1.8k per mth and work 8am to 8pm. Real sugarcane boss

[moonrab]

If johorians are too demanding, they'll be replaced by plenty from other cities/towns. My friends' factories hire local managers at rm 5 to 6k, all very cheap, good and happy

MYR 6k is for all common workers, not managerial level. 
Managerial level international salary lowest should be MYR 10k.

However you are right, many others Malaysian cities people can work in JB.
While many Johorian still travel to work in Singapore for international salary. 

This phenomenon can work, if Malaysian government pumps in $ into JB.

[WhatDoYouThink!]

If sg/jb cooperate, it's a win win for both.

[moonrab]

If sg/jb cooperate, it's a win win for both.

Yes, but must be mutual benefits. 
And be free of internal politicking episodes. 

Once one side politicians insinuating unfair agreement to win votes. Even ghosts 👻 will run away overnight. 
That's why over decades, only lukewarm reciprocation appears. More for PR purposes.

[Tangsen]

SZ is China run ... Johor is Muddy run .... 
No need primary school logic how it will turn out

[starbugs]

It's only likely to succeed if the zone is directly managed by SG. Otherwise, corruption and their bumi way of doing things will just take over.

[mikotan]

Dream on. Relax relax culture, how to compare with China and HK?

[Niubee]

SG is almost fully developed and not much room for GDP pump except all year round stupid infra building and road works.

Good to co develop JB nearer to SG. May consider buying an apartment there for future...

[K88 shu shu]

Which country benefited the most if it became reality?

[WhatDoYouThink!]

Look at KL, if they want they can do it. But first of all, must get rid of all forms of corruptions. And evil ppl like that old fox must be stopped them from interfering

[lylcnn]

Look at KL, if they want they can do it. But first of all, must get rid of all forms of corruptions. And evil ppl like that old fox must be stopped them from interfering

Huh KL good ah? Saw Tiktok street interviews the salaries there almost all less than sgd 1K per month...all of them say scrimp and can get by...we all know how expensive their hawker and street food is

[maxsanic]

No way. Johor is good for cheap day trip spendings for Singaporeans, but their track record has been disastrous for anything investment related.

Who knows what what will happen to Malaysian politics and policies in the next few years? And even if the current Aggong can exert federal influence to some extent currently, what's gonna happen once his tenure is up 4+ years later?

[moonrab]

It's only likely to succeed if the zone is directly managed by SG. Otherwise, corruption and their bumi way of doing things will just take over.

The Malaysian will scream until hell break loose...🤣
100% not possible

[moonrab]

Which country benefited the most if it became reality?

This is why it will never works.

[Niubee]

I don't think the Johor side will make it if their government put bumis there. In the end it will drag Singapore down with the negative synergy.

But if they put jhks there....and by jhks I mean Han Malaysians, we will see job losses. Our low TFR is now boosted up by mainly jhks but when they can live and work in Johor, why would they come here?

Agree Malaysian Chinese will grow the project

[Goldmine]

The road ahead for Singapore is rocky. This proposed shenzhen style economy hub will benefit Malaysia more. Singapore may regret. Worst case Singapore may shot herself in the foot.

[Tangsen]

Agree Malaysian Chinese will grow the project

Those can one already some other country or in SG .....

[Blin]

I don't think the Johor side will make it if their government put bumis there. In the end it will drag Singapore down with the negative synergy.

But if they put jhks there....and by jhks I mean Han Malaysians, we will see job losses. Our low TFR is now boosted up by mainly jhks but when they can live and work in Johor, why would they come here?

Bumi? They will figure out only put capable ppl to run. Just follow lky formulah. Max sugar cane machinery application.

[Oyk]

Agree Malaysian Chinese will grow the project

China has 56 races. Han, Hui, Mongol, Uyghur, etc.

I don't remember there's a race called "Malaysian".

There's no such group of peepur called Malaysian Chinese in China but Malaysia does have lots of Han Malaysians. 

[talky]

in the next 5 yrs n later more emty malls in spore
more shops n makan stall close

hk is now a vivid example to learn fr

[aiptasia]

China has 56 races. Han, Hui, Mongol, Uyghur, etc.

I don't remember there's a race called "Malaysian".

There's no such group of peepur called Malaysian Chinese in China but Malaysia does have lots of Han Malaysians. 

Take your han and shove it up your fugging fat arse you pundek CECA!

The Malaysian population consists of people of different races, religions and race. The largest group of Malaysians consist of three main races, namely the Malays, Chinese and Indians.

https://www.malaysia.gov.my/portal/content/30114

[Oyk]

Take your han and shove it up your fugging fat arse you pundek CECA!

The Malaysian population consists of people of different races, religions and race. The largest group of Malaysians consist of three main races, namely the Malays, Chinese and Indians.

https://www.malaysia.gov.my/portal/content/30114

Chinese and Indians are not races.  They are nationalities.