Posts: 19,894
   
Threads: 235
    
Likes Received: 4,809 in 4,293 posts
Likes Given: 6,752
(08-07-2022, 08:17 AM)sgbuffett Wrote: If it is a lottery and people can lose.
Scheme should be scrapped.
These are homes and lives of people not some city planners Lego blocks to move around.
Like I said it is morally wrong not to allow people to vote and have a choice whether to go ahead.
You totally have no say, let alone vote during the early days when the Land Acquisition Act was high and mighty.
Wherever you go, no matter what the weather, always bring your own sunshine
>
Posts: 19,894
   
Threads: 235
    
Likes Received: 4,809 in 4,293 posts
Likes Given: 6,752
Good thing the rest of Singapore outnumber the voting pig farmers then. No brainer where the latter disgruntled group’s votes went to during GE.
Wherever you go, no matter what the weather, always bring your own sunshine
>
(This post was last modified: 09-07-2022, 07:48 AM by
p1acebo.)
Posts: 25,505
   
Threads: 7,322
    
Likes Received: 4,436 in 3,496 posts
Likes Given: 606
(09-07-2022, 07:45 AM)p1acebo Wrote: You totally have no say, let alone vote during the early days when the Land Acquisition Act was high and mighty.
True....with SERS Singaporeans have no say...they can just force
This type of forcing is not allowed elsewhere.
My suggestion is to change this to allow residents to vote.
I think it would be fairer.
The govt now is not like 50yrs ago.
It has the resources to offer a fair deal.
Also, since it can usually make much more by redeveloping the place with a higher plot ratio, they will gain.
I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams.
>
Posts: 7,799
   
Threads: 995
    
Likes Received: 1,884 in 1,538 posts
Likes Given: 0
(05-07-2022, 11:54 AM)sgbuffett Wrote: What you say is wrong.
Lawrence Wong already explained only a small minority of flat will get SERS majority will be left standing until lease ends.
SERS is not meant to solve problem of decaying flats as 95% will not undergo SERS.
Flats have to be properly maintained so they look okay and last to the end.
every 5 yrs hdb or tc will repaint the exterior of the whole flat
Posts: 1,597
   
Threads: 0
    
Likes Received: 396 in 329 posts
Likes Given: 20
SERS bad for old folks who prefer to stay put during their last few years. The 5,6 years wait then some would have passed away.
Posts: 10,650
   
Threads: 9
    
Likes Received: 3,158 in 2,473 posts
Likes Given: 1,075
Noticed many young couples used to go around looking for old flats to buy hoping the govt SERS the block so that they can get a brand new flat by adding a bit more money. May be for old people they dun like the inconvenience of house moving and adding money at that old age.....
Thinking is difficult, that's why most people judge
Carl Jung
>
Posts: 5,857
   
Threads: 35
    
Likes Received: 2,005 in 1,543 posts
Likes Given: 437
If I may speak freely, sers or any form of govt forced eviction in the name of redevelopment should be more lucrative to existing owners than en bloc in private development.
First, private development is done via owner voting and majority wants out. The rest of it is done by valuers and often tender with reserve price. HDB flat owners were not given the choice but forced upon. The price is also determined by HDB and there's no negotiation of a win win situation. Secondly, the replacement offer by the govt for the HDB flats is not up to the existing owners. Of course the owners can sell the current flat so someone else gets the sers replacement flat. However, the valuation of current and replacement flat works out not in favour to the existing owners. If you own a private property and the sale price is going to be lower than your expected replacement price, would you go ahead and sell (tender award below reserve price)?
But this is Singapore so they will tell you to do national service. But when they profit from the redevelopment, they will not share anything with you. Other than saying more people on the gst take. But who landed you on the social handouts? Lol
Posts: 460
   
Threads: 0
    
Likes Received: 259 in 199 posts
Likes Given: 281
(09-07-2022, 08:17 AM)sgbuffett Wrote: True....with SERS Singaporeans have no say...they can just force
This type of forcing is not allowed elsewhere.
My suggestion is to change this to allow residents to vote.
I think it would be fairer.
The govt now is not like 50yrs ago.
It has the resources to offer a fair deal.
Also, since it can usually make much more by redeveloping the place with a higher plot ratio, they will gain.
You’re right in saying the present govt has enormous financial firepower to ensure compensation offered to the affected families is fair, in accordance with legal requirements. In the years after independence, however, we were extremely poor. Under the stewardship of LKY, there was a pressing need for lands to carry out lots of developmental projects in resettlement and the nascent industries.
The Land Acquisition Act was enacted in ‘67 to give the democratic nascent govt the power of compulsory land acquisition for public development. But the compensations disbursed to land owners and pig farmers were thought to be barely adequate, leading some to brand the compensatory payments as deriving from “kampung law.” As the country grew more affluent, the act was amended in ‘73. The revised act justly fixed the compensation amount for acquired land at the market rate.
Holding a “microcosmic referendum” to decide a Sers issue -- which is basically about whether a parcel of land on which a few blocks of flats sit should give way for a planned project on that parcel -- is a bad idea, impractical and may lead to chaos.
Imagine asking the Marsiling residents to vote for or against the planned Woodlands Checkpoint expansion being built on the site of their abodes. At a time of increasingly unattractive rehousing benefits, an awful lot of residents may vote against the proposal, citing reasons like “compensation nowhere near enough,” “emotional attachment to their homes” and the “inconvenience of moving house.”
More votes of “nay” than “aye” would mean the painstakingly-researched master plan for the expansion of the world’s busiest border crossing will go down the drain and prolong the frustrations of hundreds of thousands of jam-stuck daily commuters crossing the causeway to no end.
When the urban planners put forward a blueprint for a site to be acquired for a redevelopment project, it is for the betterment of the people. The planners work hand in glove with housing analysts and infrastructure engineers to carve out a piece of meticulously careful research after looking at the practicalities; there’s no sentimentality or whatever involved. Just think why the Sers issues never came to vote.
Users browsing this thread: 2 Guest(s)