PPP Goh meng seng stabbing fellow oppositions again
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Doing what he was good at

PPP secretary-general Goh Meng Seng took to Facebook to criticise the WP for what he called a pattern of abandoning constituencies during past general elections.

He said the WP abandoned Jalan Besar (formerly Moulmein-Kallang) in GE2015, MacPherson in 2020 and now Marine Parade-Braddell Heights in GE2025.

He asked: “Will they abandon Tampines voters in GE2030 and leave it uncontested and (a) walkover again?”

Mr Goh, who is leading the PPP team in a four-cornered fight in Tampines GRC, said WP’s move is an “irresponsible and senseless manoeuvre” as it denied about 130,000 Marine Parade-Braddell Heights GRC residents the chance to vote.

He added that if WP had made its intention clear earlier, PPP would have contested the GRC
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WP is sub party to PAP mah... Actually older opposition are all related somewhat one lah...
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This guy still bear grudges with WP for many years. He was forced to leave WP after posting some internet postings which had tarnished the WP's reputation.
Everytime got chance, he will attack WP.
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(23-04-2025, 11:21 PM)Ineedhelp Wrote:  WP is sub party to PAP mah... Actually older opposition are all related somewhat one lah...

like that must well say Chaim C T SPP. The last he contest is at BISHAN TPY GRC , lost but not bad get 40+ votes partly due to his " Cham C T " charm just like Low at WP . Since both of them are old opposition guards keep fighting against the PAP even since LKY is PM. Still remember their debate with LKY , Goh C T, LHL and two other Opposition member.
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Make sure goh meng seng never survive
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Goh MS is correct lah!

WP very selfish! Ownself don't want but don't give other people chance to participate! 没担当的小人!
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Somehow, this is an art of war. You cannot let your enemies know your next move. But suspect there there is a pappies mole inside wp.
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If we have a Coalition Government in Parliament. Will they screw each other for individual party interest? 🤔

Charm liao...worst than bolei land 🤣
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(23-04-2025, 10:30 PM)TopSage Wrote:  Doing what he was good at

PPP secretary-general Goh Meng Seng took to Facebook to criticise the WP for what he called a pattern of abandoning constituencies during past general elections.

He said the WP abandoned Jalan Besar (formerly Moulmein-Kallang) in GE2015, MacPherson in 2020 and now Marine Parade-Braddell Heights in GE2025.

He asked: “Will they abandon Tampines voters in GE2030 and leave it uncontested and (a) walkover again?”

Mr Goh, who is leading the PPP team in a four-cornered fight in Tampines GRC, said WP’s move is an “irresponsible and senseless manoeuvre” as it denied about 130,000 Marine Parade-Braddell Heights GRC residents the chance to vote.

He added that if WP had made its intention clear earlier, PPP would have contested the GRC
This idiot goh better get lost. Trying to gain popularity and stirring and mess-up this GE. For decades, he never even garner strong votes and yet so naive.
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(24-04-2025, 11:16 AM)Gemstar Wrote:  This idiot goh better get lost. Trying to gain popularity and stirring and mess-up this GE. For decades, he never even garner strong votes and yet so naive.

look at the way he speak, full of nonsenses
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(23-04-2025, 10:30 PM)TopSage Wrote:  Doing what he was good at

PPP secretary-general Goh Meng Seng took to Facebook to criticise the WP for what he called a pattern of abandoning constituencies during past general elections.

He said the WP abandoned Jalan Besar (formerly Moulmein-Kallang) in GE2015, MacPherson in 2020 and now Marine Parade-Braddell Heights in GE2025.

He asked: “Will they abandon Tampines voters in GE2030 and leave it uncontested and (a) walkover again?”

Mr Goh, who is leading the PPP team in a four-cornered fight in Tampines GRC, said WP’s move is an “irresponsible and senseless manoeuvre” as it denied about 130,000 Marine Parade-Braddell Heights GRC residents the chance to vote.

He added that if WP had made its intention clear earlier, PPP would have contested the GRC

Actually I'm quite curious, did Goh Meng Seng promise to fund most of the campaign costs and put up the $16,000 electoral deposit for the last minute candidates from his party?

The candidates don't look rich to me and I kind of struggle to understand why anyone would even stand for election under his banner. There are lots of other small oppo parties out there who will accept anyone to be a candidate, so why join someone who is going around purposely entering into all sorts of multi-party fights whereby the chances of recovering deposit is effectively 0?

Even if you just want your 5 minutes of fame, joining a random party will at least cost you $16,000 less and somemore you get undivided attention since you are going one on one with the PAP. You spend $20-$30k go Tampines and nobody is even talking about you as it's all about PAP and WP so what's the point!?
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(24-04-2025, 12:09 AM)puntfast2 Wrote:  This guy still bear grudges with WP for many years. He was forced to leave WP after posting some internet postings which had tarnished the WP's reputation.
Everytime got chance, he will attack WP.

LOL that is a very kind way of describing his shenanigans. IIRC the guy was going on Sammyboy forum dishing out one liner insults to many people to the point that the WP CEC received multiple feedback from people who were concerned over the disrepute his antics were bringing to the party.

He was then effectively dismissed, but WP allowed him a shred of dignity by allowing him to "resign".
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How come no recce scouts positionings?
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(24-04-2025, 12:30 PM)maxsanic Wrote:  Actually I'm quite curious, did Goh Meng Seng promise to fund most of the campaign costs and put up the $16,000 electoral deposit for the last minute candidates from his party?

The candidates don't look rich to me and I kind of struggle to understand why anyone would even stand for election under his banner. There are lots of other small oppo parties out there who will accept anyone to be a candidate, so why join someone who is going around purposely entering into all sorts of multi-party fights whereby the chances of recovering deposit is effectively 0?

Even if you just want your 5 minutes of fame, joining a random party will at least cost you $16,000 less and somemore you get undivided attention since you are going one on one with the PAP. You spend $20-$30k go Tampines and nobody is even talking about you as it's all about PAP and WP so what's the point!?

you have a point, highly likely Goh Meng Seng is supported by the incumbent to stir shit
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(24-04-2025, 12:09 AM)puntfast2 Wrote:  This guy still bear grudges with WP for many years. He was forced to leave WP after posting some internet postings which had tarnished the WP's reputation.
Everytime got chance, he will attack WP.

did not know that he was expelled fr WP
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(24-04-2025, 01:02 PM)talky Wrote:  did not know that he was expelled fr WP

he was also expelled from NSP
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He go anyway also cannot survive.
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(24-04-2025, 01:03 PM)TopSage Wrote:  he was also expelled from NSP

then he really is a street  rat need to be bitten by whoever sees him
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WP has already put up the banners and posters in Tampines. They are taking it seriously.
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(24-04-2025, 01:02 PM)talky Wrote:  did not know that he was expelled fr WP
Better and safer not to hv another liar RK replica in WP, SDP or PSP.
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(24-04-2025, 12:51 PM)TopSage Wrote:  you have a point, highly likely Goh Meng Seng is supported by the incumbent to stir shit

LOL, he's doing in such an obnoxious and off putting manner that doesn't qualify to be a PAP mole.
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(24-04-2025, 01:02 PM)talky Wrote:  did not know that he was expelled fr WP

He posted some shit stuff on internet that actually tarnish the WP's image, kind of force to take responsibility and he resign.
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GMS has such a reputation that whatever he says now ppl probably will think that they're wrong. But objectively speaking, this time he's right.

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(24-04-2025, 05:20 PM)Blasterlord2 Wrote:  GMS has such a reputation that whatever he says now ppl probably will think that they're wrong. But objectively speaking, this time he's right.

He would be right if WP told him that they want to contest MP and didn't in the end. Fact of the matter is WP has made it quite clear in public they have no interest in talking to the rest of the oppos. They are welcome to contest in any WP ward if they want and in turn WP is also entitled to contest anywhere it wants.

Goh himself chose not to contest in MP (cannot be because of unity as he has no qualms budging into NSP's turf either in Tampines), now he's making a big show as if WP is somehow obligated to inform him their plans. Opposition unity doesn't even make sense here, WP is a proper party with MPs and town councils, that they should "cooperate" with a fly by night party just because they are not PAP makes zero sense.
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(24-04-2025, 06:10 PM)maxsanic Wrote:  He would be right if WP told him that they want to contest MP and didn't in the end. Fact of the matter is WP has made it quite clear in public they have no interest in talking to the rest of the oppos. They are welcome to contest in any WP ward if they want and in turn WP is also entitled to contest anywhere it wants.

Goh himself chose not to contest in MP (cannot be because of unity as he has no qualms budging into NSP's turf either in Tampines), now he's making a big show as if WP is somehow obligated to inform him their plans. Opposition unity doesn't even make sense here, WP is a proper party with MPs and town councils, that they should "cooperate" with a fly by night party just because they are not PAP makes zero sense.

Unity among opposition parties only goes so far. From my experience in an industry association made up of various companies, I noticed that many company leaders participated not to push for collective progress, but to ensure the association didn’t make recommendations that might go against their own interests.
The same applies to opposition unity. Each party is ultimately protecting its own turf. Imagine if Pritam Singh had invited Goh Meng Seng to take over Marine Parade. Come the 2030 election, Goh would likely not step aside, and that’s not a scenario the Workers’ Party would welcome. Why would they willingly empower a rival?
The truth is, the Workers’ Party is already facing a shortage of top-tier candidates. They fully intend to contest in Marine Parade, but to do that effectively, they need strong, credible talent, not just anyone.
If we want to strengthen the opposition, good people need to step up and join the Workers’ Party. The residents deserve to see that real talent is stepping forward, not just any Tom, Dick, or Harry like "Goh Meng Seng"
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(24-04-2025, 06:10 PM)maxsanic Wrote:  He would be right if WP told him that they want to contest MP and didn't in the end. Fact of the matter is WP has made it quite clear in public they have no interest in talking to the rest of the oppos. They are welcome to contest in any WP ward if they want and in turn WP is also entitled to contest anywhere it wants.

Goh himself chose not to contest in MP (cannot be because of unity as he has no qualms budging into NSP's turf either in Tampines), now he's making a big show as if WP is somehow obligated to inform him their plans. Opposition unity doesn't even make sense here, WP is a proper party with MPs and town councils, that they should "cooperate" with a fly by night party just because they are not PAP makes zero sense.

By right, no parties need to tell other parties of their plans. But the oppies are weak. If WP continues to hold the principle that they do not need to coordinate with other parties (at least to some extent), then it's pure selfishness without considering the overall good-being of the country.

This reminds me of the Spring and Autumn period in China. To counter the attack of the mighty Qin, some states seemingly work together to gather a strong united army but all fell apart because some state preferred to stay on the sideline watching other state take the lead in the attack. In the end, all the states lost. Why? Because each thinks only of itself.

To be honest, WP's performance in parliament wasn't spectacular in the part years. I have turned from a WP supporter to a disgruntled one.

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(24-04-2025, 06:43 PM)Blasterlord2 Wrote:  By right, no parties need to tell other parties of their plans. But the oppies are weak. If WP continues to hold the principle that they do not need to coordinate with other parties (at least to some extent), then it's pure selfishness without considering the overall good-being of the country.

This reminds me of the Spring and Autumn period in China. To counter the attack of the mighty Qin, some states seemingly work together to gather a strong united army but all fell apart because some state preferred to stay on the sideline watching other state take the lead in the attack. In the end, all the states lost. Why? Because each thinks only of itself.

To be honest, WP's performance in parliament wasn't spectacular in the part years. I have turned from a WP supporter to a disgruntled one.

It’s not easy for WP. They’re dealing with a lawsuit from the PAP over town council matters, and they have limited manpower to handle research and policy evaluation.
Imagine being Pritam, every day he has to:
  • Manage the party
  • Attend town council meetings
  • Meet with lawyers about the lawsuit
  • Conduct Meet-the-People Sessions
  • Show up at community events
  • prepare his parliament meeting
  • read hundred of emails
  • Participate in Parliament
  • …and so much more
All of this, with only a small team of volunteers. It’s a stark contrast to the PAP, which has a large support system and full-time staff assisting their MPs.
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(24-04-2025, 06:43 PM)Blasterlord2 Wrote:  By right, no parties need to tell other parties of their plans. But the oppies are weak. If WP continues to hold the principle that they do not need to coordinate with other parties (at least to some extent), then it's pure selfishness without considering the overall good-being of the country.

This reminds me of the Spring and Autumn period in China. To counter the attack of the mighty Qin, some states seemingly work together to gather a strong united army but all fell apart because some state preferred to stay on the sideline watching other state take the lead in the attack. In the end, all the states lost. Why? Because each thinks only of itself.

To be honest, WP's performance in parliament wasn't spectacular in the part years. I have turned from a WP supporter to a disgruntled one.

Er yar, but to even talk collaboration the parties in question must be at least at roughly the same level and both sides can bring something to the table rite? 

Just to borrow your analogy for the Warring States, for e.g. Zhao and Wei can ally to take on Qin which sounds plausible and I believe they have done so a couple of times as well, but you cannot expect Zhao to actually try to coordinate with some peasant who doesn't even have his own army or land and just whole day shout "Down with Qin" rite?

And then this peasant comes back and blame the King of Zhao for not informing him of their war plans, otherwise he would have "stepped up" to take on Qin. Does this sound even remotely sensible for Zhao to entertain this guy?

And Goh is going more kuku even as I type, just read that he now claims WP going to Tampines is all a ploy to prevent him from getting elected. Seriously, coordinate with such a fruit cake?

https://mothership.sg/2025/04/goh-meng-s...arliament/
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(24-04-2025, 09:36 PM)maxsanic Wrote:  Er yar, but to even talk collaboration the parties in question must be at least at roughly the same level and both sides can bring something to the table rite? 

Just to borrow your analogy for the Warring States, for e.g. Zhao and Wei can ally to take on Qin which sounds plausible and I believe they have done so a couple of times as well, but you cannot expect Zhao to actually try to coordinate with some peasant who doesn't even have his own army or land and just whole day shout "Down with Qin" rite?

And then this peasant comes back and blame the King of Zhao for not informing him of their war plans, otherwise he would have "stepped up" to take on Qin. Does this sound even remotely sensible for Zhao to entertain this guy?

And Goh is going more kuku even as I type, just read that he now claims WP going to Tampines is all a ploy to prevent him from getting elected. Seriously, coordinate with such a fruit cake?

https://mothership.sg/2025/04/goh-meng-s...arliament/

There were many examples in history showing the strong helping the weak and hence both win together. The whole point is that sinkies win in the end.

No need to bring GMS's other comments into the picture; I've never said I agree with him but despite his being wrong in many cases, there were times when he's right, and this is one of them.

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