[Blasterlord2]

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapor...on-3782671

[ODA TETSURO]

Indranee meant a murder suspect are still free to buy a potential weapon like knife, buy poison or plan to kill somebody else ma while under probe?

[moonrab]

"All eight opposition MPs from the Workers’ Party (WP) voted for the PAP’s motion, and against the PSP."

Hey!
WP supported PAP hor...
Go against PSP...

See I told you, not opposition is always correct.
WP know it too..🤣

[forum456]

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapor...on-3782671

PAP MPs voted for Ms Indranee’s motion, while the Progress Singapore Party's (PSP) two Non-Constituency MPs – Ms Hazel Poa and Mr Leong Mun Wai – voted for their own motion.

All eight opposition MPs from the Workers’ Party (WP) voted for the PAP’s motion, and against the PSP.

While introducing her motion, Ms Poa explained why Mr Iswaran’s case warranted a suspension in the PSP’s view.

First, she said that Mr Iswaran was no longer performing his duties as an MP, whether in parliament or West Coast GRC. “So, in effect, Minister Iswaran has been fully suspended from his MP duties, but not from his MP allowance.”

[Blasterlord2]

Has WP joined PAP? It's time to ditch them and vote for other parties.

[ODA TETSURO]

"All eight opposition MPs from the Workers’ Party (WP) voted for the PAP’s motion, and against the PSP."

Hey!
WP supported PAP hor...
Go against PSP...

See I told you, not opposition is always correct.
WP know it too..🤣

WP afraid it might br another PAP's trap?

[moonrab]

WP afraid it might br another PAP's trap?

Lol...🤣
WP changed alot, after LTK left.
So far, difficult to understand their motion in Parliament. 

Confirm not united with other Opposition parties. 2025 game over.

[Oyk]

Indranee meant a murder suspect are still free to buy a potential weapon like knife, buy poison or plan to kill somebody else ma while under probe?

You are putting words into her mouth.

Iswaran had been suspended from his ministerial duties.  But he is a MP elected by the peepur, and it is wrong to suspend that before the investigations are over.

[Oyk]

Lol...🤣
WP changed alot, after LTK left.
So far, difficult to understand their motion in Parliament. 

Confirm not united with other Opposition parties. 2025 game over.

You see how Singh handled the RK case, you know already...

[sgh]

WP has basically betrayed their roots. They are more like lightning strike. This is life and we move on now we got two parties to attack and take down their forts.

[K88 shu shu]

me very certain Iswaran is innocent until proven guilty.

[forum456]

based on PAP reasoning, any MP under investigation for 1 year and not doing MP duty for 1 year, can still collect MP pay for 1 year.
this is only possible in PAP govt service.

in the private sector, once you stop working regardless of investigation or not, no pay for you.
no private company will pay 1 year pay to you when you are under investigation and not working.

[sgh]

based on PAP reasoning, any MP under investigation for 1 year and not doing MP duty for 1 year, can still collect MP pay for 1 year.
this is only possible in PAP govt service.

in the private sector, once you stop working regardless of investigation or not, no pay for you.
no private company will pay 1 year pay to you when you are under investigation and not working.

That is also why some ppl say if one whole working life is in govt sector they seldom will survive in private sector. For me my working career span across govt GLC and private so I saw it all. That phrase is true to a certain extent some civil servant cannot survive in private sector really.

[forum456]

Iswaran had been suspended from his ministerial duties.  But he is a MP elected by the peepur, and it is wrong to suspend that before the investigations are over.

if iswaran wants MP pay, he must do work as MP.
Iswaran cannot collect MP pay and not doing MP work.

if Iswaran is being investigated for 1 year, he can stay at home and collect free MP pay for 1 year ?

[Blasterlord2]

That is also why some ppl say if one whole working life is in govt sector they seldom will survive in private sector. For me my working career span across govt GLC and private so I saw it all. That phrase is true to a certain extent some civil servant cannot survive in private sector really.

Some? I'll say many.

[forum456]

That is also why some ppl say if one whole working life is in govt sector they seldom will survive in private sector. For me my working career span across govt GLC and private so I saw it all. That phrase is true to a certain extent some civil servant cannot survive in private sector really.

to be fair to all citizens, PAP must change law so that an employee in private company can also collect pay for 1 year like Iswaran
when he is under investigation and not working in the company for 1 year.

[RichDad]

Has WP joined PAP? It's time to ditch them and vote for other parties.

Leader of Opp but supports PAP motion? WP got no bloody balls. Sipeh Xia suay.

Let's get more PSP members in....

[RichDad]

You are putting words into her mouth.

Iswaran had been suspended from his ministerial duties.  But he is a MP elected by the peepur, and it is wrong to suspend that before the investigations are over.

Pinky was the one who suspended him from all duties. So why pay him for non service?

Hazel is right, should dock his MP allowance now since PM suspended him and if he is indeed innocent, then pay him back in arrears. It is better than to pay him now and try to claw back later if guilty, not so easy.

After all, he is still getting his $8.5k for doing nothing.

[forum456]

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapor...on-3782671

Mr Singh then rose to say that the WP could not support PSP's motion due to the presumption of innocence, but sought clarifications from Ms Indranee regarding her counter-motion.

"In the Workers' Party's view, the wheels of justice must be allowed to fully turn before parliament decides what to do. The Workers' Party cannot agree to the motion filed by the PSP.

"It would not just be unfair and premature, but significantly, this House would be seeking to overturn the electoral mandate given to Mr Iswaran by the people through the ballot box, by prematurely passing judgment on him," Mr Singh added.


I think Mr Singh is stupid or confused ?
the principle is no work , no pay.
if you cannot work as MP, you should not collect the MP pay.

If Mr Singh wants to pay MP pay to Iswaran, he should ask Iswaran to come out and work as MP.
it is stupid to pay MP pay to Iswaran when he is not working as an MP.

[Blasterlord2]

Leader of Opp but supports PAP motion? WP got no bloody balls. Sipeh Xia suay.

Let's get more PSP members in....

I wonder if water has got into their brains, recently with Sylvia Lim proposing that banks pay victims for being scammed. Has she thought of the implications?

[forum456]

Mr Singh then rose to say that the WP could not support PSP's motion due to the presumption of innocence, but sought clarifications from Ms Indranee regarding her counter-motion.

"In the Workers' Party's view, the wheels of justice must be allowed to fully turn before parliament decides what to do. The Workers' Party cannot agree to the motion filed by the PSP.

"It would not just be unfair and premature, but significantly, this House would be seeking to overturn the electoral mandate given to Mr Iswaran by the people through the ballot box, by prematurely passing judgment on him," Mr Singh added.


I think Mr Singh is stupid or confused ?
the principle is no work , no pay.
if you cannot work as MP, you should not collect the MP pay.

If Mr Singh wants to pay MP pay to Iswaran, he should ask Iswaran to come out and work as MP.
it is stupid to pay MP pay to Iswaran when he is not working as an MP.

PAP should come up new law so that any private employee under investigation and not working, the company should continue to pay him until he is proven guilty.
if not, it is very unfair that only MP can have this special nonsense priviledge.

[RichDad]

Mr Singh then rose to say that the WP could not support PSP's motion due to the presumption of innocence, but sought clarifications from Ms Indranee regarding her counter-motion.

"In the Workers' Party's view, the wheels of justice must be allowed to fully turn before parliament decides what to do. The Workers' Party cannot agree to the motion filed by the PSP.

"It would not just be unfair and premature, but significantly, this House would be seeking to overturn the electoral mandate given to Mr Iswaran by the people through the ballot box, by prematurely passing judgment on him," Mr Singh added.


I think Mr Singh is stupid or confused ?
the principle is no work , no pay.
if you cannot work as MP, you should not collect the MP pay.

If Mr Singh wants to pay MP pay to Iswaran, he should ask Iswaran to come out and work as MP.
it is stupid to pay MP pay to Iswaran when he is not working as an MP.

Ah Singh definitely lost points here. Maybe he is afraid his MP allowance also get docked? But he was never arrested for corruption.

No balls lah. Must resign as Leader of Opp. No wonder VB said they are Pap Lite....

[RichDad]

I wonder if water has got into their brains, recently with Sylvia Lim proposing that banks pay victims for being scammed. Has she thought of the implications?

Yah, that too. Maybe she didn't present her case properly. Shouldn't be a blanket rule to compensate all and certainly not 100% of the scammed amount. If so, banks go bankrupt.

[forum456]

no need to suspend Iswaran as MP.

just order Iswaran to take no pay leave as an MP since he is not working.
Iswaran can still be MP but he is not paid because he is not working as MP.

you want MP pay, you have to do work.
you cannot sleep at home for 1 year and collect 1 year MP pay !

[Blasterlord2]

Yah, that too. Maybe she didn't present her case properly. Shouldn't be a blanket rule to compensate all and certainly not 100% of the scammed amount. If so, banks go bankrupt.

I wish LTK were back as leader of WP.

[ODA TETSURO]

You are putting words into her mouth.

Iswaran had been suspended from his ministerial duties.  But he is a MP elected by the peepur, and it is wrong to suspend that before the investigations are over.

What if Iswaran is not a minister? Can the company dismiss him or freeze his bank accounts? Obviously ministers got another special law to take care of them.

[hansamu]

Essentially all are vested with their  own self interest. 

Pritam and Faisal still have their own outstanding issues hanging in the air.

[forum456]

ong beng seng is also under investigation.
but he still went to F1 and did his work.

why iswaran can shake legs at home and still collect pay ?

[forum456]

Ah Singh definitely lost points here. Maybe he is afraid his MP allowance also get docked? But he was never arrested for corruption.

No balls lah. Must resign as Leader of Opp. No wonder VB said they are Pap Lite....

his arguments are very weak.
maybe he and iswaran are good friends ?

everyone knows that iswaran is not guilty until he is proven in court.
but iswaran must do MP work if he wants his MP pay.

ong beng seng is also charged like him.
but he is doing his F1 work and thus company must pay him.

iswaran can shake legs at home and still getting paid ?
this is absurd !

[KILLjoy]

see how these

shameless protect one another

and yet want us to embrace and let foreigners run all over us

really piece of junk

protect potential criminal like when he/she will be next

if iswalan=
opposition
definitely
not a likewise treatment

jinjjia

what kinda leader will produce what kinda followers

god bless singapur