Scripture readings for Christmas

Jesus said You will hear rumours of war,kingdom over kingdom
Earthquakes in differ places,famine,drought..the end is not yet
It’s the beginning of birth pain..
U see the corvid since 2019 still not over yet.
Lockdown n people can’t travel were for them to pray n repent
Many people worship the world instead of God that was what I heard.
If u love the world u r an enemy to God.

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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Every moslem will enter paradise...look at how this man lies to people on the street ...

https://youtube.com/shorts/-kc2k1l7GNg?s...bYyQgeXgQ4
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James and Jude both show that Jesus is God. James 1:1 calls Jesus "Lord" right next to God, showing they are equal. 

Jude 1:4 says Jesus is the "only Master and Lord," proving He is the only true ruler. Even Jude 1:5 in early copies says Jesus saved people out of Egypt, something only God did. This means Jesus is the same God who rescued Israel, proving He is not just a prophet but the Lord Himself.


Bible Verses:


James 1:1 – "James, a bondservant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ..." - James serves Jesus just like God, showing they are equal.


Jude 1:4 – "Deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ." - Jesus is called the only Master and Lord, meaning no one else is.


Jude 1:5 – "The Lord, after saving a people out of the land of Egypt, destroyed those who did not believe." - Early copies say Jesus saved them, proving He is God.


The Quran denies Jesus as Lord, but James and Jude prove that He is! Muslims, wake up! Come to Jesus Christ, your only hope and salvation!
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(28-03-2025, 05:26 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven - Matthew 5

Does the beautiful story of the tax collector that teaches repentance cancel what Jesus said in Matthew 5? No it doesn't. Maybe you have a different opinion. If so, I'd like to hear.




That's called argument from silence, a logical fallacy. You don't know if that man did any work of penance or whatever. You are just assuming.




Allow me to remind you of a verse in Luke. I say unto you that likewise more joy shall be in Heaven over one sinner that repenteth, than over ninety and nine just persons who need no repentance.

So that is the better answer, isn't it?

Our prophet صلي الله عليه وسلم said, “Every son of Adam commits sin, and the best of those who commit sin are those who repent."


Let's read the preceding verse (which you omitted to quote) over the two you quoted in Matthew chapter 5 to get a clearer understanding of the issue involved: "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished." The last sentence contains the conditional clause "until all is accomplished."

It's obvious to everyone that the laws of the Mosaic Covenant are fulfilled in Christ (Col 2:16-17). In fulfilling the law, He completed the law. How did He do this? Jesus fulfilled the law by obeying the law perfectly and by completing the sacrificial system. Jesus saves to the uttermost. In what way can we offer one more sacrifice for the forgiveness of sins? Jesus's pronouncement, "It is finished," signified the completion and fulfillment of the law.

Hebrew 8:13 renders the Mosaic Covenant as obsolete. The word for obsolete is the same Greek word used by Jesus in Mark 2:20-21 when He says not to sew old cloth on new. The law of Moses has fallen into obsolescence. Rom 10:12 states that Christ is the end of the Law (for righteousness). The law was given until the "seed should come." Christ, the seed, has come. 

The New Covenant is made possible by our Mediator, Jesus Christ (Heb 8:6-13). The Christian lives by the Law of Christ (Gal 6:2) and the Law of the Spirit of Life (Rom 8::2). We're not under the Mosaic Covenant; therefore we're not obligated to keep the laws of the M C. Insofar as we love God and love our neighbor, we keep the law of God in the New Covenant. We uphold the law by faith (Rom 3:31) and by love (Rom 13:8).
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The Bible is divided into 2 parts representing man's condition and God's solution to remove the sin and guilt separating man from Him. The first part, the OT is just that, the old way, representing the Old Covenant God used to cover the sins of the people until the time came for Jesus to establish a New Covenant.

The old sacrificial system and the covenant on which it rested are obsolete. Under the Old Covenant, the people's sins could be covered through a system of giving sacrifices for their sins. The sins were covered but never removed. The constant companion of sinners is guilt. They're unable to escape it. They may try a variety of ways to ignore it, but deep down inside they know their lives aren't right.

Under the New Covenant - the 2nd part of the Bible, the NT - Jesus became the perfect and final sacrifice. He didn't cover the sins but removed and completely washed them away, along with the guilt that accompanies them. The New Covenant enjoyed by the Church has cancelled God's covenant with Israel, known as the Replacement theology. The old was based on physical rather than spiritual birth. The promise was long life on earth rather than eternal life in heaven.
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(28-03-2025, 09:23 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  There will always be others that disbelieve...even if Jesus appeared infront of them...they will turn their heads and walk away..

Yes, that's what Paul says. He shares that it is not a lack of evidence that keeps an unbeliever from finding God; it's a lack of desire to know God and submit their life to Him that motivates the unbelief.

Someone has said that the reason an unbeliever cannot find God is the same reason a thief can never find a police officer! Indeed, some people will reject the very concept of the Biblical God no matter how clearly you present the message and even if presented with enough objective evidence.
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(29-03-2025, 01:41 AM)S I M T A N Wrote:  Yes, that's what Paul says. He shares that it is not a lack of evidence that keeps an unbeliever from finding God; it's a lack of desire to know God and submit their life to Him that motivates the unbelief.

Someone has said that the reason an unbeliever cannot find God is the same reason a thief can never find a police officer! Indeed, some people will reject the very concept of the Biblical God no matter how clearly you present the message and even if presented with enough objective evidence.


Some individuals choose to overlook evidence, rejecting everything that is presented to them. It's akin to how young lovers may disregard the world around them when they are deeply in love Big Grin

There are others like our friend who will reject God because he tries to assume God to be something attainable by the virtue of “logic”, or applied reasoning...I strictly rebuff the thought of comprehending God through logic whatsoever.

Then there are others whom God has the authority to harden..

...Romans 9:18 (NIV) reads:

"Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden."


John 12:37-40 (NIV) reads:

37 Even after Jesus had performed so many signs in their presence, they still would not believe in him.
38 This was to fulfill the word of Isaiah the prophet: “Lord, who has believed our message and to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?”
39 For this reason they could not believe, because as Isaiah says elsewhere:
40 “He has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts, so they can neither see with their eyes, nor understand with their hearts, nor turn—and I would heal them.”
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(29-03-2025, 01:23 AM)S I M T A N Wrote:  Let's read the preceding verse (which you omitted to quote) over the two you quoted in Matthew chapter 5 to get a clearer understanding of the issue involved: "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished." The last sentence contains the conditional clause "until all is accomplished."

It's obvious to everyone that the laws of the Mosaic Covenant are fulfilled in Christ (Col 2:16-17). In fulfilling the law, He completed the law. How did He do this? Jesus fulfilled the law by obeying the law perfectly and by completing the sacrificial system. Jesus saves to the uttermost. In what way can we offer one more sacrifice for the forgiveness of sins? Jesus's pronouncement, "It is finished," signified the completion and fulfillment of the law.

Hebrew 8:13 renders the Mosaic Covenant as obsolete. The word for obsolete is the same Greek word used by Jesus in Mark 2:20-21 when He says not to sew old cloth on new. The law of Moses has fallen into obsolescence. Rom 10:12 states that Christ is the end of the Law (for righteousness). The law was given until the "seed should come." Christ, the seed, has come. 

The New Covenant is made possible by our Mediator, Jesus Christ (Heb 8:6-13). The Christian lives by the Law of Christ (Gal 6:2) and the Law of the Spirit of Life (Rom 8::2). We're not under the Mosaic Covenant; therefore we're not obligated to keep the laws of the M C. Insofar as we love God and love our neighbor, we keep the law of God in the New Covenant. We uphold the law by faith (Rom 3:31) and by love (Rom 13:8).

Thank you for the reply.

I didn't include the preceding verse because I wanted to bring up the part where Jesus warned about the one who would teach others to set aside the law. Paul did exactly that, teaching others to do so, and he taught that even to the Jews. Christians have ignored the warning Jesus gave about someone like Paul. How come? Instead of being wary of Paul, Christians have elevated Paul to the status of an apostle, placing him above the disciples taught by Jesus. Do you know how that came about? I suggest we both look into the history of early Christianity. 

Now, let's look at the preceding verses, which I didn't include. You bolded one part, which is ambiguous. I'd like to highlight another part instead that has no ambiguity.  "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished." That part destroys your narrative. Jesus did not abolish the law. You are mistaken, and it is a critical mistake. 

Please think it over. Lately, all your arguments have been rebutted and you have no reply to the rebuttals. The part about "only true God", the part about "in the Father", or the many arguments I've made against the Trinity. It's time that you reset your faith and go back to square one. Study Islam, the Quran, and the messenger صلي الله عليه وسلم who was sent with the Quran.
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(29-03-2025, 01:41 AM)S I M T A N Wrote:  Yes, that's what Paul says. He shares that it is not a lack of evidence that keeps an unbeliever from finding God; it's a lack of desire to know God and submit their life to Him that motivates the unbelief.

Someone has said that the reason an unbeliever cannot find God is the same reason a thief can never find a police officer! Indeed, some people will reject the very concept of the Biblical God no matter how clearly you present the message and even if presented with enough objective evidence.

When you say "Biblical God", did you forget the Jews whose Bible you borrowed? Is the God of the Israelites a Trinity? Ask rabbi Tovia Singer. The rabbi and I both believe in God, and we both reject your idea concerning God.
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(28-03-2025, 09:05 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  The main reason for me, among many reasons, is the faculty of the mind. That is the reason why I cannot accept Christianity. It doesn't make sense because it is illogical. 

God has given me the ability to think and to reject what is false. Christianity to me is false because it doesn't make sense. The truth cannot be illogical.

I have no right to force you to believe and accept lah! Big Grin But I still respect you as a friend lah!
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(28-03-2025, 09:09 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Acts 2:38: "Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." 

The Holy Spirit's Presence:
Once a person is baptized, the Holy Spirit is believed to dwell within them, guiding and empowering them in their Christian life.

(28-03-2025, 09:11 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  When I attended one of the Taiwan preaching at indoor stadium 
I was filled with the Holy Spirit, felt a warm sensation gg into my heart 
Then started to speak in unknown tongue non stop can’t control 
Do you also encounter it?

The manifestation of the Holy Spirit comes in many forms and we can't restrict Him lah! Big Grin He came as a strong gust of wind on the Day of Pentecost and lighted the apostles' heads with tongues Tounge  of fire  Fire lah! But He descended on Jesus like a dove 🐦 lah!
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(29-03-2025, 09:09 AM)cheekopekman Wrote:  I have no right to force you to believe and accept lah! Big Grin But I still respect you as a friend lah!

I already told you why I cannot believe in Christianity.
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“Let the one who does wrong continue to do wrong; let the vile person continue to be vile; let the one who does right continue to do right; and let the holy person continue to be holy.””
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭22‬:‭11‬ ‭NIV‬‬


Old man said he can’t be forced n he also can’t force us to go to the broad  path with no saviour 
Stop arguing n do your puasa
N be nice, stop telling us what Christian should do
U are not God or messenger sent
We are not forcing u to believe
U want to debate not us understand ?

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(29-03-2025, 10:32 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  “Let the one who does wrong continue to do wrong; let the vile person continue to be vile; let the one who does right continue to do right; and let the holy person continue to be holy.””
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭22‬:‭11‬ ‭NIV‬‬


Old man said he can’t be forced n he also can’t force us to go to the broad  path with no saviour 
Stop arguing n do your puasa
N be nice

You should stop saying falsehoods. Speak only the truth.

Between the teachings of Paul and the teachings of Jesus, which is the difficult path to take? If you follow Jesus's teachings, you must be obedient to the Law like fasting, going to the temple at dawn, and observing the dietary law, but if you follow Paul's teachings, you're free from the Law, and that is indeed an easy life. You can do anything and eat anything.
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Not for old man to debate 
For believers 

““Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city. Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood. “I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.””
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭22‬:‭14‬-‭16‬ ‭NIV

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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For christians 
Not for old man to debate 

““For through the law I died to the law so that I might live for God. I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I now live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!””
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭2‬:‭19‬-‭21‬ ‭NIV

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(29-03-2025, 10:49 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  For christians 
Not for old man to debate 

““For through the law I died to the law so that I might live for God. I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I now live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!””
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭2‬:‭19‬-‭21‬ ‭NIV

The best hospital in Singapore in terms of service that I've experienced is a Christian hospital, Mt Alvernia. My twin daughters were delivered there. The nuns were very nice, very friendly. Reminds me so much of Mother Teresa.
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Not for old man to debate

““To the angel of the church in Smyrna write: These are the words of him who is the First and the Last, who died and came to life again. I know your afflictions and your poverty—yet you are rich! I know about the slander of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan. Do not be afraid of what you are about to suffer. I tell you, the devil will put some of you in prison to test you, and you will suffer persecution for ten days. Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you life as your victor’s crown. Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches. The one who is victorious will not be hurt at all by the second death.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭2‬:‭8‬-‭11‬ ‭NIV

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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Matthew 12..

Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven people, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32 And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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“Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness? What harmony is there between Christ and Belial? Or what does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God. As God has said: “I will live with them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be my people.” Therefore, “Come out from them and be separate, says the Lord. Touch no unclean thing, and I will receive you.” And, “I will be a Father to you, and you will be my sons and daughters, says the Lord Almighty.””
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭6‬:‭14‬-‭18‬ ‭NIV

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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32) Chapter: The ruling on semen

Abdullah b. Shihab al-Khaulani reported:

I stayed in the house of ‘A’isha and had a wet dream (and perceived its effect on my garment), so (in the morning) I dipped both (the clothes) in water. This (act of mine) was watched by a maid-servant of A’isha and she informed her. She (Hadrat A’isha) sent me a message: What prompted you to act like this with your clothes? He (the narrator) said: I told that I saw in a dream what a sleeper sees. She said: Did you find (any mark of the fluid) on your clothes? I said: No. She said: Had you found anything you should have washed it. In case I found that (semen) on the garment of the Messenger of Allah dried up, I scraped it off with my nails.

Reference: Sahih Muslim 290

I felt a sense of disgust after reading the part in bold
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(29-03-2025, 11:08 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Matthew 12..

Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven people, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32 And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.

Would you like to debate this one?

Do you have what it takes to debate anybody on the Holy Spirit being God?
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““Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters. And so I tell you, every kind of sin and slander can be forgiven, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come. “Make a tree good and its fruit will be good, or make a tree bad and its fruit will be bad, for a tree is recognized by its fruit. You brood of vipers, how can you who are evil say anything good? For the mouth speaks what the heart is full of. A good man brings good things out of the good stored up in him, and an evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in him. But I tell you that everyone will have to give account on the day of judgment for every empty word they have spoken. For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned.””
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭12‬:‭30‬-‭37‬ ‭NIV

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(29-03-2025, 11:22 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  32) Chapter: The ruling on semen

Abdullah b. Shihab al-Khaulani reported:

I stayed in the house of ‘A’isha and had a wet dream (and perceived its effect on my garment), so (in the morning) I dipped both (the clothes) in water. This (act of mine) was watched by a maid-servant of A’isha and she informed her. She (Hadrat A’isha) sent me a message: What prompted you to act like this with your clothes? He (the narrator) said: I told that I saw in a dream what a sleeper sees. She said: Did you find (any mark of the fluid) on your clothes? I said: No. She said: Had you found anything you should have washed it. In case I found that (semen) on the garment of the Messenger of Allah dried up, I scraped it off with my nails.

Reference: Sahih Muslim 290

I felt a sense of disgust after reading the part in bold

Lupsap plus humsup!

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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No, you don't debate the Holy Spirit because you lack understanding of it, and it would be disrespectful to insult our Holy Spirit.

I suggest you get to the debate on anal sex ....there are many moslems out here who are interested to know if it is permissible...

i will say Islam permits anal sex Big Grin
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(29-03-2025, 11:34 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Lupsap plus humsup!

Rotfl their Allah is the conductor of the grand performance of humanity....He likes to be entertained
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(29-03-2025, 11:34 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Lupsap plus humsup!

So there. You're afraid to debate. Yet, you go around telling people that I lose debates.
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OK..you want a debate...LKSM you give him one ..I will be the referee... Alizabird will speak for the Holy Spirit and Lksm will speak against the Holy Spirit ...

Loser will get out of this thread...sounds fair? Let us see if the moslem is really undefeated Big Grin
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Come on, an undefeated debater is ready to tackle any topic and argue any position. So why don't you start by explaining why you believe the Holy Spirit represents the truth? Lksm can speak afterward once you're finished.....

Why? Are you afraid?
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(29-03-2025, 12:02 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Come on, an undefeated debater is ready to tackle any topic and argue any position. So why don't you start by explaining why you believe the Holy Spirit represents the truth? Lksm can speak afterward once you're finished.....

Why? Are you afraid?
He cannot win 
Answers all in the bible.
If use his Koran sure lost

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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