Scripture readings for Christmas
21-01-2025, 07:09 PM
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21-01-2025, 07:14 PM
(21-01-2025, 07:11 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: I got all that from the NT. Why would you call the NT a serpent?Serpent still argues
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pray 5 times but the heart is evil got use?
21-01-2025, 07:15 PM
21-01-2025, 07:18 PM
(21-01-2025, 07:09 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: I only have 1 wife.
Why would Jesus want you to hate your parents? They raised you and loved you when you were little but now you are told by Jesus to hate them. Is that a good teaching?
Hate got different meaning lah
Must honor parents
U 1 wife but can beat n ons what I have watched testimonies
Pity
pray 5 times but the heart is evil got use?
21-01-2025, 07:20 PM
The moslem bro says pray directly to The Father wor.....let's go to the NT to see if it is true...
1. **John 14:13-14**:
- "And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it."
2. **John 16:23-24**:
- "In that day you will no longer ask me anything. Very truly I tell you, my Father will give you whatever you ask in my name. Until now you have not asked for anything in my name. Ask and you will receive, and your joy will be complete."
3. **Matthew 7:7-8**:
- "Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened."
4. **Romans 1:8**:
- "First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for all of you, because your faith is being reported all over the world."
5. **Ephesians 5:20**:
- "Always giving thanks to God the Father for everything, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ."
6. **Colossians 3:17**:
- "And whatever you do, whether in word or deed, do it all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him."
7. **Hebrews 10:19-22**:
- "Therefore, brothers and sisters, since we have confidence to enter the Most Holy Place by the blood of Jesus, by a new and living way opened for us through the curtain, that is, his body, and since we have a great priest over the house of God, let us draw near to God with a sincere heart and with the full assurance that faith brings..."
1. **John 14:13-14**:
- "And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it."
2. **John 16:23-24**:
- "In that day you will no longer ask me anything. Very truly I tell you, my Father will give you whatever you ask in my name. Until now you have not asked for anything in my name. Ask and you will receive, and your joy will be complete."
3. **Matthew 7:7-8**:
- "Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened."
4. **Romans 1:8**:
- "First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for all of you, because your faith is being reported all over the world."
5. **Ephesians 5:20**:
- "Always giving thanks to God the Father for everything, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ."
6. **Colossians 3:17**:
- "And whatever you do, whether in word or deed, do it all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him."
7. **Hebrews 10:19-22**:
- "Therefore, brothers and sisters, since we have confidence to enter the Most Holy Place by the blood of Jesus, by a new and living way opened for us through the curtain, that is, his body, and since we have a great priest over the house of God, let us draw near to God with a sincere heart and with the full assurance that faith brings..."
21-01-2025, 07:20 PM
(21-01-2025, 07:15 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: So don't bluff yourself into thinking that you are following Jesus.
U don’t wish to follow Jesus n yet u
prevent people from following
How come u so wicked ?
pray 5 times but the heart is evil got use?
21-01-2025, 07:23 PM
(21-01-2025, 07:20 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: The moslem bro says pray directly to The Father wor.....let's go to the NT to see if it is true...
1. **John 14:13-14**:
- "And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it."
2. **John 16:23-24**:
- "In that day you will no longer ask me anything. Very truly I tell you, my Father will give you whatever you ask in my name. Until now you have not asked for anything in my name. Ask and you will receive, and your joy will be complete."
3. **Matthew 7:7-8**:
- "Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened."
4. **Romans 1:8**:
- "First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for all of you, because your faith is being reported all over the world."
5. **Ephesians 5:20**:
- "Always giving thanks to God the Father for everything, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ."
6. **Colossians 3:17**:
- "And whatever you do, whether in word or deed, do it all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him."
7. **Hebrews 10:19-22**:
- "Therefore, brothers and sisters, since we have confidence to enter the Most Holy Place by the blood of Jesus, by a new and living way opened for us through the curtain, that is, his body, and since we have a great priest over the house of God, let us draw near to God with a sincere heart and with the full assurance that faith brings..."
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pray 5 times but the heart is evil got use?
21-01-2025, 07:26 PM
21-01-2025, 07:27 PM
(21-01-2025, 06:54 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: Because u know his weak point mah
After discussing the massacre of the Banu Qurayza, it's clear what kind of person I'm dealing with. The core issue is whether Mohammad was responsible for ordering the massacre. Instead of addressing this, he resorts to calling me a liar and attempts to discredit me and deflect the main issue by questioning the death toll, a weak and feeble attempt to deflect the truth....
21-01-2025, 07:28 PM
(21-01-2025, 07:20 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: U don’t wish to follow Jesus n yet u
prevent people from following
How come u so wicked ?
I would like to see you follow Jesus.
If you follow Jesus, you will worship One God like me. You will fall on your face in prostration to worship God like me. You will fast like me. You will abstain from pork like me. Etc.
But you don't do all that because you don't follow Jesus.
21-01-2025, 07:31 PM
This is how Jesus worship God, exactly like how I worship God.
Do you worship God like that Lukongsimi?
Do you worship God like that Lukongsimi?
21-01-2025, 07:33 PM
Do you not see that whatever enters a person from outside cannot defile them, because it enters, and then it leaves the body? So then, His followers are clear regarding this truth."
21-01-2025, 07:33 PM
(21-01-2025, 07:28 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: I would like to see you follow Jesus.
If you follow Jesus, you will worship One God like me. You will fall on your face in prostration to worship God like me. You will fast like me. You will abstain from pork like me. Etc.
But you don't do all that because you don't follow Jesus.
What is the use to prostrate if u worship wrong god n wrong path
Refuse to born again with water n spirit
Refuse to believe Jesus is the saviour
John 14:6
New International Version
6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
pray 5 times but the heart is evil got use?
21-01-2025, 07:48 PM
(21-01-2025, 07:27 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: After discussing the massacre of the Banu Qurayza, it's clear what kind of person I'm dealing with. The core issue is whether Mohammad was responsible for ordering the massacre. Instead of addressing this, he resorts to calling me a liar and attempts to discredit me and deflect the main issue by questioning the death toll, a weak and feeble attempt to deflect the truth....He cannot accept the truth lah
So call us liars
pray 5 times but the heart is evil got use?
21-01-2025, 07:51 PM
Why does your Merciful God allow so many moslems to die from fasting? Fasting or lives sacrifices?
Without the need to Fast, Islam might already be the no 1 religion..
several studies suggest that fasting can lead to complications, particularly for vulnerable populations. A World Health Organization (WHO) study published in 2011 found that Ramadan-related heat and dehydration are the main causes of mortality and morbidity in Muslim patients.
Here's a rough estimate based on available reports and studies:
A 2017 study published in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition estimated that approximately 20,000 people die worldwide each year due to fasting-related complications during Ramadan.
A 2019 report by the WHO estimated the mortality rate related to Ramadan fasting as approximately 0.3-0.5 per 100,000 population, which translates to about 3,000-5,000 deaths per year, assuming a global Muslim population of about 1.8 billion.
Another study published in 2010 estimated that the annual number of deaths due to Ramadan fasting could be as high as 6,000.
Without the need to Fast, Islam might already be the no 1 religion..
several studies suggest that fasting can lead to complications, particularly for vulnerable populations. A World Health Organization (WHO) study published in 2011 found that Ramadan-related heat and dehydration are the main causes of mortality and morbidity in Muslim patients.
Here's a rough estimate based on available reports and studies:
A 2017 study published in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition estimated that approximately 20,000 people die worldwide each year due to fasting-related complications during Ramadan.
A 2019 report by the WHO estimated the mortality rate related to Ramadan fasting as approximately 0.3-0.5 per 100,000 population, which translates to about 3,000-5,000 deaths per year, assuming a global Muslim population of about 1.8 billion.
Another study published in 2010 estimated that the annual number of deaths due to Ramadan fasting could be as high as 6,000.
21-01-2025, 07:53 PM
21-01-2025, 07:55 PM
(21-01-2025, 07:33 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: What is the use to prostrate if u worship wrong god n wrong path
Refuse to born again with water n spirit
Refuse to believe Jesus is the saviour
John 14:6
New International Version
6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
Well explain lah bro
21-01-2025, 07:56 PM
pray 5 times but the heart is evil got use?
21-01-2025, 07:59 PM
(21-01-2025, 07:51 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: Why does your Merciful God allow so many moslems to die from fasting? Fasting or lives sacrifices?Wow 😮
Without the need to Fast, Islam might already be the no 1 religion..
several studies suggest that fasting can lead to complications, particularly for vulnerable populations. A World Health Organization (WHO) study published in 2011 found that Ramadan-related heat and dehydration are the main causes of mortality and morbidity in Muslim patients.
Here's a rough estimate based on available reports and studies:
A 2017 study published in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition estimated that approximately 20,000 people die worldwide each year due to fasting-related complications during Ramadan.
A 2019 report by the WHO estimated the mortality rate related to Ramadan fasting as approximately 0.3-0.5 per 100,000 population, which translates to about 3,000-5,000 deaths per year, assuming a global Muslim population of about 1.8 billion.
Another study published in 2010 estimated that the annual number of deaths due to Ramadan fasting could be as high as 6,000.
pray 5 times but the heart is evil got use?
21-01-2025, 08:06 PM
21-01-2025, 08:11 PM
(21-01-2025, 08:06 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: I pray that our Moslem brothers have many healthy years ahead and a safe and easy fasting experience lah.
Their experience is like a group of gazelle crossing the nile river infested with hungry crocodiles....if you are unlucky...you up the lorry!
Pity them also wish them well
pray 5 times but the heart is evil got use?
21-01-2025, 09:16 PM
(21-01-2025, 07:33 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: What is the use to prostrate if u worship wrong god n wrong path
Refuse to born again with water n spirit
Refuse to believe Jesus is the saviour
John 14:6
New International Version
6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
How is it possible to worship the wrong almighty creator when there is only one almighty creator? That is an intellectual argument but I don't know if you can appreciate it.
You keep bluffing yourself about following Jesus. You discard almost all that he commanded. You are heedless to all his warnings. He warned about the one who will teach people to ignore the law and you paid no attention to the warning.
21-01-2025, 10:11 PM
Some claim that Islam is a way of life, but I would call it a waste of life...Each year, millions of lambs are sacrificed for Eid al-Adha, and thousands of individuals died from health complications during the fasting month Ramadan. It is like a lottery ticket where the prize is death, a prize that no one wants to win...but unfortunately thousands of innocents will die from fasting...,Is this truly how Islam perceives the value of life?
21-01-2025, 11:20 PM
(21-01-2025, 09:16 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: How is it possible to worship the wrong almighty creator when there is only one almighty creator? That is an intellectual argument but I don't know if you can appreciate it.Your motive is to rid Christian so u can go paradise find the 72 virgins is it?
You keep bluffing yourself about following Jesus. You discard almost all that he commanded. You are heedless to all his warnings. He warned about the one who will teach people to ignore the law and you paid no attention to the warning.
pray 5 times but the heart is evil got use?
22-01-2025, 12:49 AM
(21-01-2025, 09:55 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: So there, as you can see, you cannot falsify my faith.
I reject Christianity and I have given lengthy explanations why I disbelieve it. We have discussed the Trinity, Sola Fide, original sin, the scriptures, the historicity of the scriptures, and how Christianity evolved to become what it is today.
Now you want me to look at personal testimonies of Christians as corroborative evidence for Christianity. Yes, I remember your own experience you shared here. But we can also find similar testimonies from Hindus affirming their faith. I'm sure you will dismiss their testimonies.
Jesus said, according to the Gospel, that we must worship God with all our minds. How can I do that if my mind cannot wrap around the notion of the Trinity?
The truth allows of only one interpretation. The basic truths of the Christian faith affirmed by the Apostles' Creed - the Holy Trinity, Christ's work of atonement and His resurrection - are on a collision course with your Islamic beliefs. Hence, your positions on these issues are diametrically opposed to those of ours. We could discourse until we're blue in the face, but we'll never agree.
Well, you may pooh-pooh the testimonies of Christian believers, but you forgot the proof is in the pudding - that of having a mystical relationship with God and getting to enjoy the benefits of salvation - healing, health, safety, deliverance, soundness and wholeness. Your disinclination for a mystical experience is understandable, given that Islam, which has no fatherly concept of God, isn't about fellowship with God, but service, submission and allegiance to Allah.
A good many people nowadays say, "I believe in God, but not in a personal God." They add that God is beyond personality and think of Him as something impersonal, that is something less than personal. If you're looking for something super-personal, something more than a person, the God of the Bible offers mankind a personal relationship of great intimacy. The Christian idea is the only one on the market.
These are just some of the differences between the god put forth in the Qur'an and the God of the Bible. The god portrayed in the Qur'an is not the God described in the Christian Scriptures and, in fact, doesn't even exist (Isaiah 46:9).
22-01-2025, 06:24 AM
Jehovah Jireh! "On the mountain of the LORD it will be provided." The LORD will provide lah! (Genesis 22:14)
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22-01-2025, 08:24 AM
(22-01-2025, 12:49 AM)S I M T A N Wrote: The truth allows of only one interpretation. The basic truths of the Christian faith affirmed by the Apostles' Creed - the Holy Trinity, Christ's work of atonement and His resurrection - are on a collision course with your Islamic beliefs.
Not just the Islamic beliefs but also the Jewish beliefs. Other religions like Hinduism or any paganistic beliefs won't have any objections to your faith.
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