[pinkpanther]

Ok. I'm mistaken to say all 4.

So, please show me where any of our 4 esteemed Imams taught us that we should kill non-Muslims everywhere. 

Otherwise, please admit you're lying or mistaken.

It is OK to have differences in opinions among the 4 Imams..so there is no need for further evidences to substantiate my claims ...

[Lukongsimi]

You every month donate but our moslem bro still say your hati busok    I think our moslem bro needs to retract his harmful statement

He will be judged by God lol

[Lukongsimi]

The Jews and moslems were not always enemies... both sides also support each other during times of need.. the jews protect the mosques,  the moslems repair the Jewish graves..

That is the way 
Why need to kill ?

[pinkpanther]

He will be judged by God lol

I think some mendaki donations through giro...I think i I opt out...it was a long long time ago ..

[Ali Imran]

It is OK to have differences in opinions among the 4 Imams..so there is no need for further evidences to substantiate my claims ...

So you lied when you said 1 or 2 of our 4 esteemed Imams taught us that we should kill non-Muslims everywhere.

Now you can see why I called you a liar.

[Ali Imran]

That is the way 
Why need to kill ?

Yes, exactly. Everyday children are being killed in Palestine by the Zionists, who are Jews and they are supported with weapons by the Christians.

[Ali Imran]

there are disagreements between the 4 Sunni Imams. Imam Shafi'i and Imam Ahmed bin Hanbal (and present-day Salafists) all rule that except for Jews/Christians/Magians, all other non-Muslims (like Atheists, Buddhists, Hindus etc.) should be killed all over the world. They don't have any right to stay alive even after paying Jizya

Imam Abu Hanifa and Imam Malik said that the killing of all other non-Muslims was limited only to the Arab polytheists.

I will keep this post where you lied about our esteemed Imams so that I can always call you a liar with proof of your lies.

[pinkpanther]

So you lied when you said 1 or 2 of our 4 esteemed Imams taught us that we should kill non-Muslims everywhere.

Now you can see why I called you a liar.

No ..why should I lie with what I read? you can rebuke if you can prove otherwise...

[Ali Imran]

No ..why should I lie with what I read? you can rebuke if you can prove otherwise...

Please show us what you read. If you can't you just made another lie.

[pinkpanther]

I will keep this post where you lied about our esteemed Imams so that I can always call you a liar with proof of your lies.

Just because you are not well read does not give you the rights to call someone a liar .. I don see the need to show it to you now as it is a matter of disagreement among them .

[pinkpanther]

Please show us what you read. If you can't you just made another lie.

Why can't Imams have disagreements? Having disagreements is healthy...
I already showed you what I read

[Lukongsimi]

If you go n disturb the sleeping dog by stepping on its tail u think the dog won’t bite back ?

[Lukongsimi]

Just because you are not well read does not give you the rights to call someone a liar .. I don see the need to show it to you now as it is a matter of disagreement among them .

Whenever he lost in debates he will call us liars lol although there are proofs shown.

[pinkpanther]

If you go n disturb the sleeping dog by stepping on its tail u think the dog won’t bite back ?

 good example

[Lukongsimi]

Why can't Imams have disagreements? Having disagreements is healthy...
I already showed you what I read

Now he answers you.
Maybe boring no one to talk to..sim on leave lol

[pinkpanther]

Whenever he lost in debates he will call us liars lol although there are proofs shown.

He wants to get one over me...his end game is to call someone a liar   

Don worry my moslem bro, you will have good days as well..I assure you that

[Lukongsimi]

I think some mendaki donations through giro...I think i I opt out...it was a long long time ago ..

Mine was direct from pay.

[pinkpanther]

Now he answers you.
Maybe boring no one to talk to..sim on leave lol

Sim will take over duties once he is back lah
Should be quite near to a return ...

[pinkpanther]

Mine was direct from pay.

What is done cannot be undone..forget it

[Lukongsimi]

What is done cannot be undone..forget it

Ya loh now then I know what is the purpose 

[S I M T A N]

So too was Prophet Moses, through whom God did miracles. He too was approved by God, but that doesn't make him a God.

So, God's miracles through Prophet Jesus don't make him a God.

Well, we know Moses performed great miracles of the same kind that Jesus performed, but Christ's miracles were greater in degree. While Moses lifted the bronze serpent to give healing to those who would look at it, he never made the blind to see, the deaf to hear, or the lame to walk, in the way Jesus did. He also never raised anyone from the dead, as Jesus did (John 11). Whereas Moses died and remains dead, Jesus predicted His own death and resurrection (John 2:19-22; Matt 12:40).

Moses never claimed to be God, but Jesus did (John 8:58; 10:30). Moses gave the law of God (John 1:17) while Jesus was the only One who ever fulfilled the law (Rom 8:2-4). This is what Jesus taught about the Old Testament: "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the law until all is accomplished" (Matt 5:17-18). He added, "These are My words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all things which are written about Me in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms must be fulfilled (Luke 24:44; Matt 5:17-18; John 5:39; Heb 10:7). Simply put, Moses gave the law that condemns us (Rom 8:3), but Jesus provided the grace that redeems us (Gal 3:13; John 1:17).

[S I M T A N]

Those rapists will be prosecuted and dealt with by law lah!  They still have eternal life in heaven lah! If they confess their sins God will still forgive them lah!

Food for thought: Is it reasonable to believe that a pious, moral Muslim who sincerely worships the god he calls Allah will be sent to hell, while a serial rapist or killer who professes faith in Christ just before his execution will spend eternity in heaven? How could a God of justice ever do such a thing?

[Ali Imran]

Hey Sim

Welcome back.

[Ali Imran]

Must make it really big and show people what a liar you are.

Imam Shafi'i and Imam Ahmed bin Hanbal (and present-day Salafists) all rule that except for Jews/Christians/Magians, all other non-Muslims (like Atheists, Buddhists, Hindus etc.) should be killed all over the world. They don't have any right to stay alive even after paying Jizya

[Ali Imran]

Well, we know Moses performed great miracles of the same kind that Jesus performed, but Christ's miracles were greater in degree. While Moses lifted the bronze serpent to give healing to those who would look at it, he never made the blind to see, the deaf to hear, or the lame to walk, in the way Jesus did. He also never raised anyone from the dead, as Jesus did (John 11). Whereas Moses died and remains dead, Jesus predicted His own death and resurrection (John 2:19-22; Matt 12:40).

Nowadays, doctors can make the blind regain sight, the lame can walk, the deaf can regain hearing.

Other than Jesus, Elisha also raised the dead.

[Ali Imran]

Why can't Imams have disagreements? Having disagreements is healthy...
I already showed you what I read

The disagreement was about who should be levied the jizya. 

You said 2 of our Imams taught Muslims that we can kill non-Muslims everywhere. That is an outright lie.

[Ali Imran]

If you go n disturb the sleeping dog by stepping on its tail u think the dog won’t bite back ?

Do you approve of the lie your friend made about Islam?

It seems you approve of it.

[Lukongsimi]

https://youtu.be/fOcp7QfjuCU?si=LD9RUk0YPjdNDBfO

[cheekopekman]

Food for thought: Is it reasonable to believe that a pious, moral Muslim who sincerely worships the god he calls Allah will be sent to hell, while a serial rapist or killer who professes faith in Christ just before his execution will spend eternity in heaven? How could a God of justice ever do such a thing?

Jesus told the criminal beside Him on the cross that he would be in paradise with Him shortly before He breathed His last breath lah!  So even a serial killer could be saved at the last minute lah! Do you believe leh, SIMTAN?

[pinkpanther]

Must make it really big and show people what a liar you are.

Don be so work up
Let's be polite and courteous in our discussion...

This is what the AI says in short..polytheism to the 2 mentioned imans is a grave sin so there is nothing wrong to implement the
death sentence

Imam Shafi'i and Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal, both prominent figures in Sunni Islamic jurisprudence, firmly rejected polytheism. Their teachings emphasized the absolute oneness of God (tawhid) and condemned any practices that would associate partners with Allah.

In essence:
Both Imam Shafi'i and Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal held the same conviction: polytheism is a grave sin and a rejection of the fundamental tenets of Islam. Their teachings and writings serve as a strong foundation for understanding the importance of tawhid in Islamic faith.