Scripture readings for Christmas

(23-05-2025, 01:46 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Just because the 3 gospels didnt talk about John..it doesn't mean that the story has changed or it isn't the truth..John gave his own account..

 most scholarly interpretations of the Bible confirm that the Apostle John was present at the crucifixion

So Mark, Luke, and Matthew got it wrong.

Is that what you're saying?
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 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(23-05-2025, 02:12 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Does science talk about the devil or satan or angels?

Science can tell you that the shooting stars are not targeting the devils...
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(23-05-2025, 02:19 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Science can tell you that the shooting stars are not targeting the devils...


Science can tell you that it takes a sperm from a male to impregnate a woman. But we believe otherwise, right?

So, can science tell you about the devil?
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(23-05-2025, 02:14 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  So Mark, Luke, and Matthew got it wrong.

Is that what you're saying?

Nope... Only Matthew and John were disciples of Jesus at that time ...Matthew fled while John stayed recorded his account..
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(23-05-2025, 02:28 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Nope... Only Matthew and John were disciples of Jesus at that time ...Matthew fled while John stayed recorded his account..

I'm talking about the book, Mark, Luke and Matthew. The authors of those books say all the disciples fled. According to you, all 3 authors got it wrong.
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(23-05-2025, 02:23 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Science can tell you that it takes a sperm from a male to impregnate a woman. But we believe otherwise, right?

So, can science tell you about the devil?

When I talk about my experiences with the Holy Spirit..you have plenty of opinions..but when I ask you about the shooting stars and the devil...there seems to be no reply ..I'm waiting for your explanations
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(23-05-2025, 02:32 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  When I talk about my experiences with the Holy Spirit..you have plenty of opinions..but when I ask you about the shooting stars and the devil...there seems to be no reply ..I'm waiting for your explanations

You said it contradicts science. Then I explain to you that science doesn't know about the devil and science cannot say there is no devil. So no contradiction.

So now you want to move the goalpost?
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(23-05-2025, 02:30 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I'm talking about the book, Mark, Luke and Matthew. The authors of those books say all the disciples fled. According to you, all 3 authors got it wrong.

I already said...John stayed...All of them fled..the authors are not wrong
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(23-05-2025, 02:35 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  I already said...John stayed...All of them fled..the authors are not wrong

When the author of Mark, Matthew, Luke says all the disciples fled, it doesn't mean all?
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(23-05-2025, 02:35 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  You said it contradicts science. Then I explain to you that science doesn't know about the devil and science cannot say there is no devil. So no contradiction.

So now you want to move the goalpost?

You say there are no contradictions and I have proven it to you ..you then have to prove that the shooting stars are indeed targeting the devil as the Quran claims..

There will be no more doubts and disbelieve once you have convince me Big Grin
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(23-05-2025, 02:39 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  When the author of Mark, Matthew, Luke says all the disciples fled, it doesn't mean all?

I have 10 apples but I kept 1 and I gave all to Fatimah....
Hợw many did I give? Yes 9. All!
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(23-05-2025, 02:43 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  I have 10 apples but I kept 1 and I gave all to Fatimah....
Hợw many did I give? Yes 9. All!

Did Mark, Matthew, and Luke, say "but"?
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(23-05-2025, 02:41 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  You say there are no contradictions and I have proven it to you ..you then have to prove that the shooting stars are indeed targeting the devil as the Quran claims..

There will be no more doubts and disbelieve once you have convince me Big Grin

Please show me where the contradiction is. Please don't say science again because science doesn't know about the devil.
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(23-05-2025, 02:45 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Did Mark, Matthew, and Luke, say "but"?

Ok .this version is without but 

I have 10 apples. I kept 1 and I gave all to Fatimah....
Hợw many did I give? Yes 9. All!
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(23-05-2025, 02:49 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Ok .this version is without but 

I have 10 apples. I kept 1 and I gave all to Fatimah....
Hợw many did I give? Yes 9. All!

Who speaks like that? Even a primary school kid will say "I kept 1 and gave the rest to Fatimah". You're trying to redefine the word "all".
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(23-05-2025, 02:50 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Who speaks like that? Even a primary school kid will say "I kept 1 and gave the rest to Fatimah". You're trying to redefine the word "all".


Yes, there’s nothing wrong with words and sentence structure...everyone’s understanding and interpretation of English can vary... Big Grin
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(23-05-2025, 02:48 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Please show me where the contradiction is. Please don't say science again because science doesn't know about the devil.

I already showed you....show me that it is the truth..show me that it does not contradict reality..
I would love to bring you down to NASA and they would love to hear you out Big Grin
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(23-05-2025, 03:49 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  I already showed you....show me that it is the truth..show me that it does not contradict reality..
I would love to bring you down to NASA and they would love to hear you out Big Grin

Does Jesus casting the devil onto pigs contradict reality?
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Believe in the book we call the Marvel...there are no contradictions ..you can choose to disbelieve Big Grin
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(23-05-2025, 03:51 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Does Jesus casting the devil onto pigs contradict reality?
 
Nope  we have seen priests casting away demons
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(23-05-2025, 03:55 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:   
Nope  we have seen priests casting away demons

Read again what I wrote and then tell me, did that event contradict reality?
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(23-05-2025, 03:51 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Does Jesus casting the devil onto pigs contradict reality?

I think you don't believe that crap lah! Big Grin
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(23-05-2025, 04:05 PM)cheekopekman Wrote:  I think you don't believe that crap lah! Big Grin

I neither believe nor disbelieve. 

But Pink can believe in the supernatural in the Bible, but if it is in the Quran, he demands scientific proof.

We call that a double standard.
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(23-05-2025, 03:59 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Read again what I wrote and then tell me, did that event contradict reality?

Nope. In reality, priests cast away demons..
Show me in reality the shootings stars are missiles aim at the devil .don skip around
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(23-05-2025, 04:07 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I neither believe nor disbelieve. 

But Pink can believe in the supernatural in the Bible, but if it is in the Quran, he demands scientific proof.

We call that a double standard.

When Sim posted the sunset at the muddy spring, you have your philosophy and argued through it.but when I ask about the shooting stars ...there is no answer..don skirt around my question...convince meBig Grin

If that is not a contradiction then you are right...there is no contradictions.. things you can prove you can argue..things that you cannot prove, you say we can choose to disbelieve ...
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(23-05-2025, 04:14 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  When Sim posted the sunset at the muddy spring, you have your philosophy and argued through it.but when I ask about the shooting stars ...there is no answer..don skirt around my question...convince meBig Grin

If that is not a contradiction then you are right...there is no contradictions.. things you can prove you can argue..things that you cannot prove, you say we can choose to disbelieve ...

When it is the supernatural in the Bible, you believe. But when it is the supernatural in the Quran, you demand proof.

You're unbelievable.
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(23-05-2025, 04:20 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  When it is the supernatural in the Bible, you believe. But when it is the supernatural in the Quran, you demand proof.

You're unbelievable.

I laugh in the face of science compared to what is said in holy Quran. How many million of times science have been wrong and so far not a single thing from the quran is wrong thus far ...

You might feel happier after reading this Big Grin
Without lies Islam dies...that is the famous saying..and you prove it so
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(23-05-2025, 04:23 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  I laugh in the face of science compared to what is said in holy Quran. How many million of times science have been wrong and so far not a single thing from the quran is wrong thus far ...

You might feel happier after reading this Big Grin
Without lies Islam dies...that is the famous saying..and you prove it so

You can believe in the devil in the Bible but you demand proof of the devil in the Quran.

Do you know what is double standard?
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(23-05-2025, 04:23 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Without lies Islam dies...that is the famous saying..and you prove it so

Please show me where I have made a lie.
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