[pinkpanther]

Many scholars rejected it as objectionable.

https://www.islamweb.net/en/fatwa/363253...ic-hadeeth

This is a different narration with a different narrator

[pinkpanther]

You need to rebuke Ibn Taymiyyah Harrani or his chain of narrators.
His contents are different from your link

[Ali Imran]

This is a different narration with a different narrator

Ergo, it is objectionable.

[Ali Imran]

You need to rebuke Ibn Taymiyyah Harrani or his chain of narrators.
His contents are different from your link

There are over half a million hadith in circulation. 

Remember that the Hadith is not from God, and the Hadith is not meant for common people like us. Hadith are the works of scholars and should remain in the domain of scholars. We must refer to scholars when using Hadith. 

The Quran is not the work of man. The Quran is from God. The Quran is guidance for those who are conscious of God.

[Lukongsimi]

I wasn't being rude to him.

Why u no more say I bad character?
Say more mah

[Lukongsimi]

In the case of the devils in pigs, I didn't want any proof coz I neither believe it nor disbelieve it.

I believe in Jesus, the mighty messenger of God, pbuh. He can cast demons into pigs if he wants to.

Yes only God can cast demons into pig no one else
Jesus is God.

[Ali Imran]

Why u no more say I bad character?
Say more mah

I'm beginning to think you're a woman.

[Ali Imran]

Yes only God can cast demons  into pig no one else
Jesus is God.

Your friend just earlier today told me he knows of priests who can cast demons.

[Lukongsimi]

You said there is no contradiction...I only ask you to show me the proof but you can't ..and you are going to my bible to question me..

You make a claim..I question you .
Instead of answering me honestly, you threw back the question to me ..what a waste of time

He is like that from the beginning lol

[Lukongsimi]

Your friend just earlier today told me he knows of priests who can cast demons.

But cast demons into pigs only  Jesus can.
No where in history u can find this miracle

[Lukongsimi]

I'm beginning to think you're a woman.

I also beginning to think you re a woman.

[pinkpanther]

The Quran is not the work of man. The Quran is from God. The Quran is guidance for those who are conscious of God.

Who collected the Quran compilation ? Who wrote the Quran? There is no need for compilation since it is memorised and orally transmitted..the end product was copied and written by men

[pinkpanther]

Why u no more say I bad character?
Say more mah

[pinkpanther]

Your friend just earlier today told me he knows of priests who can cast demons.

there are numerous accounts and beliefs within Christian traditions, particularly Catholicism, that support the practice of exorcism. These accounts are based on biblical interpretations, historical practices, and personal testimonies.

[pinkpanther]

He is like that from the beginning lol

I feel that he has lost some mojo ..in his very earliest posts, he is very lively.. very active, he has all the answers ..  now it is abit different..maybe due to aging

Letting me back to debate him is his greatest regret ....he should just boycott mẹ lol

[Lukongsimi]

https://youtu.be/dska0kf7IQY

[pinkpanther]

I also beginning to think you re a woman.

[pinkpanther]

Ergo, it is objectionable.

Words are added in your Hadith lah ...of cos it is not trustworthy..rebuke the sahih Hadith ..not those copycats with added wordings

[Ali Imran]

Words are added in your Hadith lah ...of cos it is not trustworthy..rebuke the sahih Hadith ..not those copycats with added wordings

Sahih means authentic, but even so, we must refer to scholars. That Hadith you quoted is not Sahih.

[Ali Imran]

Who collected the Quran compilation ? Who wrote the Quran? There is no need for compilation since it is memorised and orally transmitted..the end product was copied and written by men

When the Quran was put into writing, the many Hafiz of that time checked it. And after some confusion was cleared, the codex was agreed upon by all the Hafiz of that time. We have all the names of the Hafiz of that time, all of them. We have a book known as ilmu rijal, which is like an autobiography of all the Hafiz of that time.

The discovery of the Birmingham manuscript attests to the preservation of the Quran. Even though it was only a few pages of the Quran, it is 100% accurate.

The Quran is a living miracle that is still with us today.

[pinkpanther]

Sahih means authentic, but even so, we must refer to scholars. That Hadith you quoted is not Sahih.

Your scholars and Imams say it is Sahih but you are greater than them...If Imam Zed says that it is not Sahih then we must follow

[Ali Imran]

Your scholars and Imams say it is Sahih but you are greater than them...If Imam Zed says that it is not Sahih then we must follow

Please show me where you got that Hadith which says it is Sahih.

[pinkpanther]

Please show me where you got that Hadith which says it is Sahih.

I already showed you with the references from the scholars and Imams

[Ali Imran]

Good morning

[Ali Imran]

I already showed you with the references from the scholars and Imams

I want to know where you copied that from. Which site?

[pinkpanther]

I want to know where you copied that from. Which site?

Sure..I will provide you the link so that you can use it to attack mẹ .. let us see if you are grateful 

https://www.shiachat.com/forum/topic/235...w-my-lord/

[pinkpanther]

Ibn Taymiyyah (born 1263, Harran, Mesopotamia—died September 26, 1328, Damascus, Syria) was one of Islam's most forceful theologians, who, as a member of the Ḥanbalī school founded by Aḥmad ibn Ḥanbal, sought the return of the Islamic religion to its sources: the Qurʾān and the Sunnah, 

If you said the source of the hadith is unreliable, then you are insulting him..

[Ali Imran]

Sure..I will provide you the link so that you can use it to attack mẹ .. let us see if you are grateful 

https://www.shiachat.com/forum/topic/235...w-my-lord/

Thank you.

That is a Shia site. 

Shias are a fringe group, not mainstream. In Malaysia and Indonesia, they are banned.

[Ali Imran]

Ibn Taymiyyah (born 1263, Harran, Mesopotamia—died September 26, 1328, Damascus, Syria) was one of Islam's most forceful theologians, who, as a member of the Ḥanbalī school founded by Aḥmad ibn Ḥanbal, sought the return of the Islamic religion to its sources: the Qurʾān and the Sunnah, 

If you said the source of the hadith is unreliable, then you are insulting him..

As I've said, it is an obscure Hadith. You don't find it in the two main Sahih Hadith collections, Bukhari and Muslim. There must be a reason why they rejected that Hadith.

And if I'm not mistaken, that Hadith is talking about a dream. Wallahu 'alam.

Anyhow, we are talking about contradictions WITHIN the Quran.

[pinkpanther]

Thank you.

That is a Shia site. 

Shias are a fringe group, not mainstream. In Malaysia and Indonesia, they are banned.

The site is Shia but the Hadith is Sunni.
Focus on the Hadith not the site ...