Scripture readings for Christmas

(29-05-2025, 10:19 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  That is generally what you always đó....say something bad with no quotes ..

Well i showed you what the Imans said ..you just can't be bothered to read

No, nothing you post here shows our Imams taught us to kill non-Muslims all over the world.
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(29-05-2025, 10:19 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  That is generally what you always do....say something bad abt Paul with no quotes ..

When I'm challenged on what I said, I will always be able to substantiate it. I have never failed.
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(29-05-2025, 10:19 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Will Jesus go to war on his return?

i didnt read in details...i don know if it is a literal battle or just a symbolic representation
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(29-05-2025, 10:25 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  i didnt read in details...i don know if it is a literal battle or just a symbolic representation

Then please go read up.

This is one article you can read.

https://www.gotquestions.org/when-Jesus-returns.html
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(29-05-2025, 10:27 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Then please go read up.

This is one article you can read.

https://www.gotquestions.org/when-Jesus-returns.html

Again the war is not just about destruction, but also about establishing Christ's kingdom....
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(29-05-2025, 10:27 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Then please go read up.

This is one article you can read.

https://www.gotquestions.org/when-Jesus-returns.html

This website is a good source...I approve!
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(29-05-2025, 10:31 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Again the war is not just about destruction, but also about establishing Christ's kingdom....

Ok. So you agree that it is war as in killing enemies?

So the sword is for war and not a metaphorical sword?
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(29-05-2025, 10:32 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Ok. So you agree that it is war as in killing enemies?

So the sword is for war and not a metaphorical sword?

I will go along
This is literally a sword for killing ..the other sword was used in a metaphorical way..
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(29-05-2025, 10:31 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Again the war is not just about destruction, but also about establishing Christ's kingdom....

So, according to the Bible, Jesus said, "But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and kill them in front of me."

Is that metaphorical or literal? If the book of Revelation is true, we can conclude that it is not metaphorical, as you said earlier.
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(29-05-2025, 10:35 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  So, according to the Bible, Jesus said, "But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and kill them in front of me."

Is that metaphorical or literal? If the book of Revelation is true, we can conclude that it is not metaphorical, as you said earlier.

Laughing parable lah
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(29-05-2025, 10:34 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  I will go along
This is literally a sword for killing ..the other sword was used in a metaphorical way..

Ok. I will not argue with that. The point I was making is that Jesus cannot be said to be prince of peace because he clearly said he did not come to bring peace.
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(29-05-2025, 10:36 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Laughing parable lah

If we read Luke 19, frame it with Revelation, the parable is about what Jesus will do on his second coming.
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(29-05-2025, 10:39 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Ok. I will not argue with that. The point I was making is that Jesus cannot be said to be prince of peace because he clearly said he did not come to bring peace.

Some said Jesus brought spiritual peace ..many different opinions
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(29-05-2025, 08:39 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  This is why I love it here. The view from my house in Malang.

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It is a nice pic... does the lava tubes run to your house. Big Grin ..say the ground around your house might feel extremely hot at times?
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(29-05-2025, 10:42 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Some said Jesus brought spiritual peace ..many different opinions

Ok. But there are other points in my argument that reject the notion that Isaiah 9:6 is Jesus.
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(29-05-2025, 10:41 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  If we read Luke 19, frame it with Revelation, the parable is about what Jesus will do on his second coming.

You have a brilliant mind Laughing
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(29-05-2025, 10:44 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  It is a nice pic... does the lava tubes run to your house. Big Grin ..say the ground around your house might feel extremely hot at times?

That volcano is like a few hundred kilometers away from my house.
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(29-05-2025, 10:46 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Ok. But there are other points in my argument that reject the notion that Isaiah 9:6 is Jesus.

Which point?
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(29-05-2025, 10:49 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Which point?

Isaiah said the son will be called Everlasting Father and Jesus is not the Father.
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(29-05-2025, 10:53 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Isaiah said the son will be called Everlasting Father and Jesus is not the Father.

Maybe as a fatherhood to his believers
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(29-05-2025, 10:44 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  It is a nice pic... does the lava tubes run to your house. Big Grin ..say the ground around your house might feel extremely hot at times?

If you can, go to Bromo. The temp is like 10 degrees. And you can go see the lava if you dare.

When I was there a few months ago, it was about 18 degrees. I was having breakfast in the clouds.

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(29-05-2025, 10:11 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Have you read Revelation 19, which speaks about Jesus waging war?

It’s about the false prophets 
Kings of the earth the beast and those with the mark of the beast on their forehead to be casted into the lake of fire

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(29-05-2025, 11:00 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  If you can, go to Bromo. The temp is like 10 degrees. And you can go see the lava if you dare.

When I was there a few months ago, it was about 18 degrees. I was having breakfast in the clouds.

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No high altitude sickness?
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(29-05-2025, 11:00 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  If you can, go to Bromo. The temp is like 10 degrees. And you can go see the lava if you dare.

When I was there a few months ago, it was about 18 degrees. I was having breakfast in the clouds.

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I ever went to Jakarta volcano 
Went up and saw the bubbling lava
Very smelly 
What is there to scare ?

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(29-05-2025, 10:08 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  LOL

How do you know if what Pink said is true or a lie?

I know what he said about our Imams is not true so either he is mistaken, or he lied.
U always deny the truth 
That is your character

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(29-05-2025, 11:20 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  U always deny the truth 
That is your character

He is very fast to call someone a liar...
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(29-05-2025, 11:17 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  I ever went to Jakarta volcano 
Went up and saw the bubbling lava
Very smelly 
What is there to scare ?

The smell of sulphur.

At Bromo, the climb to the crater is rather steep. But yeah.. not really scary.
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(29-05-2025, 11:24 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  He is very fast to call someone a liar...

When you say Muslims worship a man, it's either that you are mistaken or misunderstood, or you purposely lied.
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(29-05-2025, 11:24 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  He is very fast to call someone a liar...

Yes
His old habit never changes lol

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(29-05-2025, 11:20 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  U always deny the truth 
That is your character

What truth did I deny?

The ultimate truth is One God. When you say there are 3, you are denying the truth.

And yes, no matter what your lips say "One God in three persons", you are essentially saying there are 3 Gods.
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