[pinkpanther]

So, we should now go by your standard of what is right or wrong?

Do you know the twin shahadah Jesus wanted people to know?

It proclaims the Father as the only true God, and Jesus as the messenger God has sent. Almost the same as our twin shahadah.

John 17:3.

The proper sequence is to begin with the first part of the Shahada as a priority....acknowledging your faith in God... once you have completed your prayers to Him. Afterward, you may proceed to recite the second part of the Shahada, asking for blessings upon the Prophet, before concluding with "Ameen."

This way I have no problem.

[Ali Imran]

The proper sequence is to begin with the first part of the Shahada as a priority....acknowledging your faith in God... once you have completed your prayers to Him. Afterward, you may proceed to recite the second part of the Shahada, asking for blessings upon the Prophet, before concluding with "Ameen."

This way I have no problem.

Your problem is not my concern. 

Do you know that the Shahadah is not a prayer?

It is a proclamation.

[pinkpanther]

His name is not Jesus.

Jesus is a corruption of his real name.

So Isa is not a corruption of his real name?

My point is it does not matter what name we call Him. He knows that we acknowledge Him who is in heaven seated next to His Father...

My passport has many names and they all belong to me

[pinkpanther]

Your problem is not my concern. 

Do you know that the Shahadah is not a prayer?

It is a proclamation.

It is part of a prayer ritual..I'm saying the shahada can be recited differently...the first part to Allah in your prayers ...with the second part recited at the tail end ..

[Ali Imran]

So Isa is not a corruption of his real name?

My point is it does not matter what name we call Him. He knows that we acknowledge Him who is in heaven seated next to His Father...

My passport has many names and they all belong to me

I don't know "Isa" is his real name or an Arabized version of pronouncing his name. 

The fact is: we don't know how to say his name in Jesus's original language, what his mother called him by.

[Ali Imran]

It is part of a prayer ritual

Do you know that our 5 times a day rituals are not called "prayer" in our paradigm?

Prayer is called "doa". 

That prayer we do 5 times a day, it is called "solah".

So no, saying the shahadah in our solah is not part of a prayer ritual.

In our solah, we do make "doa" for ourselves, our prophet, or our parents, or friends.

[pinkpanther]

I don't know "Isa" is his real name or an Arabized version of pronouncing his name. 

If you say you don know if Isa is his real name...then you are doubting Allah...

[pinkpanther]

Do you know that our 5 times a day rituals are not called "prayer" in our paradigm?

Prayer is called "doa". 

That prayer we do 5 times a day, it is called "solah".

So no, saying the shahadah in our solah is not part of a prayer ritual.

In our solah, we do make "doa" for ourselves, our prophet, or our parents, or friends.

This is confusing

AI.

Yes, the Shahada, the Islamic declaration of faith, is recited as part of the five daily prayers (Salah). It's a core element of Islamic practice and a foundational pillar of the faith.

[Ali Imran]

If you say you don know if Isa is his real name...then you are doubting Allah...

That is wrong thinking.

The Quran is in Arabic and in Arabic, some consonants are different in another language. If your name is mentioned in the Quran, it would be "Fink" not "Pink" because there is no P-sounding consonant in the Arabic language.

[Ali Imran]

This is confusing

AI.

Yes, the Shahada, the Islamic declaration of faith, is recited as part of the five daily prayers (Salah). It's a core element of Islamic practice and a foundational pillar of the faith.

Such a simple statement and you find it confusing?

Even AI made it clear for you. It is Solah, loosely termed prayer in the Western world because there is no word to perfectly describe Solah that we do.

Anyhow, the Shahadah is not a prayer.

So, we don't pray to or worship a man. You can make your own rule and we can dismiss it as your own whim. The truth to us is clear, we don't worship a man.

If we worship a man, hell would be our abode.

[Lukongsimi]

Exactly what I said. Jesus is not his real name. 

You cannot suka suka change people's name. If an Englishman is named "Mr. Black", when we write his name in Malay, we cannot change it to "Encik Hitam".

How come your Koran named Jesus as ISA?
How come suka suka ?

[Lukongsimi]

I don't know "Isa" is his real name or an Arabized version of pronouncing his name. 

The fact is: we don't know how to say his name in Jesus's original language, what his mother called him by.

Many things u don’t know act like u an expert

[Ali Imran]

Many things u don’t know act like u an expert

You also don't know.

[Ali Imran]

How come your Koran named Jesus as ISA?
How come suka suka ?

Maybe that is his real name?

You don't know.

[Lukongsimi]

Such a simple statement and you find it confusing?





If we worship a man, hell would be our abode.

Already Liao

[Lukongsimi]

Maybe that is his real name?

You don't know.

What maybe don’t anyhow guess
Nobody dreamt of isa only jesus

[Lukongsimi]

You also don't know.

I know more than you

[pinkpanther]

Such a simple statement and you find it confusing?

Even AI made it clear for you. It is Solah, loosely termed prayer in the Western world because there is no word to perfectly describe Solah that we do.

Anyhow, the Shahadah is not a prayer.

So, we don't pray to or worship a man. You can make your own rule and we can dismiss it as your own whim. The truth to us is clear, we don't worship a man.

If we worship a man, hell would be our abode.

Yeah right but you associate partners with Allah

[pinkpanther]

I know more than you

Lksm's bible knowledge is way higher than the moslem...I attest to it lah..

The moslem interpreted everything to suit his faith ...

[cheekopekman]

Lksm's bible knowledge is way higher than the moslem...I attest to it lah..

The moslem interpreted everything to suit his faith ...

Agreed lah!

[Lukongsimi]

Lksm's bible knowledge is way higher than the moslem...I attest to it lah..

The moslem interpreted everything to suit his faith ...

Follow what he said bef 
He said he knows more than me 
So use the his words lol

[Lukongsimi]

Agreed lah!

Still learning lah

[Ali Imran]

Yeah right but you associate partners with Allah

Why do you like to make statements like that without knowledge?

[Ali Imran]

What maybe don’t anyhow guess
Nobody dreamt of isa only jesus

Is that what his mother called him by? Or his companions?

See? You don't know that simple thing, his real name. You don't know what is the Father's name. You also don't know what is the Holy Spirit's name. Yet, they are all Gods to you.

[pinkpanther]

Why do you like to make statements like that without knowledge?

Can I be a moslem without saying the 2nd part of the shahada" Muhammad is His messenger"

[Ali Imran]

Can I be a moslem without saying the 2nd part of the shahada" Muhammad is His messenger"

Islam has been in practise by many billions of Muslims over 1,400+ years already.

You Pink come along and say billions of Muslims have been wrong all this while.

Really? You think you're smarter than billions of Muslims?

[Lukongsimi]

Is that what his mother called him by? Or his companions?

See? You don't know that simple thing, his real name. You don't know what is the Father's name. You also don't know what is the Holy Spirit's name. Yet, they are all Gods to you.

The whole world call Him Jesus 
Cast out demons and heal the sick in the name of Jesus except moslems they call him isa 
A name most people unfamiliar with 

Father God is translated into yahweh using I am who I am
Jesus mentioned he will sent us the Holy Spirit but never mention name 
Also cannot suka suka called the Holy Spirit as Gabriel 
A goat like u don’t understand because only His sheep hears his voice 

[Ali Imran]

Lunch. I wanna take a picture of my lunch but I don't want to how lian.

[Ali Imran]

Did I say that correctly? How lian?

[Lukongsimi]

Islam has been in practise by many billions of Muslims over 1,400+ years already.

You Pink come along and say billions of Muslims have been wrong all this while.

Really? You think you're smarter than billions of Muslims?

U also not smarter than billions of Christians  who arrived 600 years earlier 😂