Scripture readings for Christmas

(30-05-2025, 09:31 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  U dare judge God u will be judged !

Still dare to say our God is blood thirsty...
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God's Word reveals to us that whenever David was in trouble, he worshiped the Lord with beautiful psalms, hymns, and praises. Instead of wallowing in his own defeat and groping in darkness, David would turn his eyes to the heavens and lift up his voice to the King of kings

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(30-05-2025, 09:40 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Still dare to say our God is blood thirsty...

He speaks without using his brain

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(30-05-2025, 09:38 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:   Surah 10:94 instructs Muhammad to seek clarification from those who possess previous scriptures (Jews and Christians) if he has any doubts about the revelations he received, not to question their beliefs....

Would Allah ask Muhammad to check with corrupted scriptures? 

That is a wrong understanding of the Quran. 

I've explained to you already. This is regarding revelations, not the content of the revelation. The pagan Arabs of Makkah were skeptical that Allah would communicate to mankind via revelations, which we know as scriptures. So Allah asks them to check with the children of Israel, who have been receiving revelations from Allah for more than a thousand years already.
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(30-05-2025, 09:48 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  He speaks without using his brain

God is not bloodthirsty. But your perception of God, that he needs blood as payment, is making it look like God is bloodthirsty.
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(30-05-2025, 09:30 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Rotfl  No one can change His words...correct? Will you study His words regarding the Injil again

Allah says in the Quran that the Israelites have changed the scriptures.
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The fallen angels created another heaven in the sea the marine world 
Queen of the ocean 
Many souls are trapped inside
Got to be careful what u eat or wear

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(30-05-2025, 09:27 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  This is how islam brainwash a person...if you want to live a life in denial..then who can stop you... Big Grin

Resorting to ad hominem because you cannot argue against the point I've given.

Jizya is clear proof that the Israelites were not forced to accept Islam.
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(30-05-2025, 09:51 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  God is not bloodthirsty. But your perception of God, that he needs blood as payment, is making it look like God is bloodthirsty.
No matter how u explain u already judged God 
Almost every day without fail rain or shine

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(30-05-2025, 09:50 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  That is a wrong understanding of the Quran. 

I've explained to you already. This is regarding revelations, not the content of the revelation. The pagan Arabs of Makkah were skeptical that Allah would communicate to mankind via revelations, which we know as scriptures. So Allah asks them to check with the children of Israel, who have been receiving revelations from Allah for more than a thousand years already.
 
You are a disbeliever of your Quran..
How can the Quran verify previous scriptures and yet chose to disbelieve them ...you lot are confused Big Grin

Confirmation of Original Texts:

The Quran also states that it verifies the Taurat (Torah) and Injil (Gospel) that the Jews and Christians possess. This implies that the scriptures, in their original form, were still valid and authentic during the time of Muhammad.
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(30-05-2025, 10:01 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Resorting to ad hominem because you cannot argue against the point I've given.

Jizya is clear proof that the Israelites were not forced to accept Islam.

They were forced with only 2 options ..pay or die...
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(30-05-2025, 10:08 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  They were forced with only 2 options ..pay or die...

So, no force to accept Islam. So you're wrong to say they were forced to accept Islam. Thank you for admitting it.

Cool.
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(30-05-2025, 10:11 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  So, no force to accept Islam. So you're wrong to say they were forced to accept Islam. Thank you for admitting it.

Cool.
That was why Christians were beheaded by force !
https://youtube.com/shorts/Cemzz4AzXkM?s...CwZWb9T6Iq

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(30-05-2025, 10:06 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:   
You are a disbeliever of your Quran..
How can the Quran verify previous scriptures and yet chose to disbelieve them ...you lot are confused Big Grin

Confirmation of Original Texts:

The Quran also states that it verifies the Taurat (Torah) and Injil (Gospel) that the Jews and Christians possess. This implies that the scriptures, in their original form, were still valid and authentic during the time of Muhammad.

The Quran says the Israelites have changed the revelations from God.

Woe to them who write verses with their own hands and then claim it is from God, and make people like Pink go astray.
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(30-05-2025, 10:14 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  That was why Christians were beheaded by force !

They were also thrown into pits of fire and den of lions.
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(30-05-2025, 10:11 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  So, no force to accept Islam. So you're wrong to say they were forced to accept Islam. Thank you for admitting it.

Cool.

Can I ask you to join Christianity....if you don want to join .you can pay me a sum or die...I am forcing you to come up with a solution that does not benefit you..is that not force?
that is hooliganism...you can no longer differentiate what is good and evil.
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(30-05-2025, 10:16 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  They were also thrown into pits of fire and den of lions.
So your religion is peace?

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(30-05-2025, 10:16 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  The Quran says the Israelites have changed the revelations from God.

Woe to them who write verses with their own hands and then claim it is from God, and make people like Pink go astray.

Don just blow hot air.  ...no verses to support your claims...show me explicitly from your Quran that what the jews and Christians have today are corrupted
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(30-05-2025, 10:08 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  They were forced with only 2 options ..pay or die...

Satan wanted to snatch more souls to be with him as he knew his time is short

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(30-05-2025, 10:22 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Don just blow hot air.  ...no verses to support your claims...show me explicitly from your Quran that what the jews and Christians have today are corrupted

The Quran states, in 2:79, that the Israelites have corrupted the revelations from God, by putting their own words and make it look like it is from God. And if we go to 4 verses before that, in 2:75, we also get confirmation from Allah that the Israelites have altered the text of the revelation.
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Zulfiqar is one of the most famous swords in Islamic history and is attributed to Ali ibn Abi Talib. The Sword of Zulfiqar is known as the sword given by the Islamic prophet Muhammad to his cousin and son-in-law, Ali

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(30-05-2025, 10:19 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  So your religion is peace?

My religion forbids killing people.

Your religion says can kill women and children and infants.

And yesterday, you justified the killing of infants. You are heartless.
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The dhu l-fakar was the most important of Islamic swords, but others also held a special significance for Muslims. Some of these are discussed, as is the role of the sword in Islamic ceremonial, especially the use of swords as symbols of rank, in inaugurations and investitures and as trophies.

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(30-05-2025, 10:32 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Zulfiqar is one of the most famous swords in Islamic history and is attributed to Ali ibn Abi Talib. The Sword of Zulfiqar is known as the sword given by the Islamic prophet Muhammad to his cousin and son-in-law, Ali

All the warriors among the early Muslims, they all had swords.
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He (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) had nine swords: Ma’thoor, which was the first sword he owned and which he inherited from his father; al-‘Adb (cutting or sharp); Dhu’l-Fiqaar, which almost never left his side, its handle, its pommel, its ring, its decorations and the end of its scabbard were made of silver; al-Qal’i; al-Battaar; al-Hatif; al-Rasoob; al-Mikhdham; and al-Qadeeb. The end of the scabbard was of silver. 

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(30-05-2025, 10:32 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  My religion forbids killing people.

Your religion says can kill women and children and infants.

And yesterday, you justified the killing of infants. You are heartless.
How come Christians were be headed by moslems ?

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(30-05-2025, 10:30 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  The Quran states, in 2:79, that the Israelites have corrupted the revelations from God, by putting their own words and make it look like it is from God. And if we go to 4 verses before that, in 2:75, we also get confirmation from Allah that the Israelites have altered the text of the revelation.

I'm sorry but your prophet does not agree with what you say

Narrated Abdullah Ibn Umar:

A group of Jews came and invited the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) to Quff. So he visited them in their school.

They said: AbulQasim, one of our men has committed fornication with a woman; so pronounce judgment upon them. They placed a cushion for the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) who sat on it and said: Bring the Torah. It was then brought. He then withdrew the cushion from beneath him and placed the Torah on it saying: I believed in thee and in Him Who revealed thee.

He then said: Bring me one who is learned among you. Then a young man was brought. The transmitter then mentioned the rest of the tradition of stoning similar to the one transmitted by Malik from Nafi' (No. 4431).
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(30-05-2025, 10:30 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  The Quran states, in 2:79, that the Israelites have corrupted the revelations from God, by putting their own words and make it look like it is from God. And if we go to 4 verses before that, in 2:75, we also get confirmation from Allah that the Israelites have altered the text of the revelation.

It is a claim that some Jews, maybe even many Jews, misinterpreted the text of Torah and ignored parts of Torah. It is not a claim that the text of Torah was itself corrupted. And the Quran can't make that claim, because it also claims to confirm the Torah repeatedly

But I don't think you want to claim that the text of the Torah is corrupted, because that would invalidate your own religion by both the text of the Quran and authentic Hadith.
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Pay or be killed what kind of religion is this?
Cannot be from God

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(30-05-2025, 10:51 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Pay or be killed what kind of religion is this?
Cannot be from God

That is from their merciful God..."no money go mati"
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