[cheekopekman]

What Every Christian Needs to Know About the Mark of the Beast and the Mark of God

Today we see that donning marks written on badges already placed on the foreheads by the most anti-Christ religion on earth; Islam. And this phenomenon is becoming a growing trend and has become a reality; the Muslim is literally posting a blasphemous badge on his forehead.

Scripture talks about two marks, one good “the seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God” (Revelation 7:3) and the other evil “the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name.” (Revelation 13:17)

But are such marks spiritual marks or are they intended to be literal as a physical mark that is visible by the naked eye? Is only the Christian marked with a spiritual mark, or is he also required to have a physical mark, or even both? Or is it possible that this whole issue be simpler than we all think; is it unusual after all for two opposite sides, the followers of Christ on the one side and the followers of Antichrist on the other, to express their allegiance to their god by displaying physical marks that are visible to everyone; either for Christ or for Antichrist to show the world which side they are on?

https://shoebat.com/2014/09/09/every-chr...-mark-god/

666 is the number of the beast lah!  You must have the number on your forehead and arm to buy and sell lah!

[pinkpanther]

In islam the anti christ (dajjal) will have the letters "ka" fa" "ra" (kafr) which means disbeliever in Allah. All muslims with an atoms worth of belief whether literate or illiterate will know what the word on his forehead means by the will of Allah. But even by knowing he is the antichrist, it will not protect you from his magic as the prophet Muhammad pbuh said "if dajjal comes in my time i will protect you but if he comes after me then run away because none of you shall win against his strength or willpower".

 It is also said many women will fall into his charm so men will tie their wives, daughters, mothers to stop them from going. He will conquer all lands except mecca and medina. There he and his army will surround the place and and a muslim will go and warn people to not go to him. He eventually will be killed by the antichrist and that man will be the Greatest martyr Allah has said. Only prophet Isa (jesus) will defeat dajjal as he will descend with 2 angels and just by looking at him, dajjal will begin to melt and run away.

A second beast will also come (most likely after when there is no islam left on earth) "and will speak to the unbelievers And when the Word is fulfilled against them (the unjust), we shall produce from the earth a beast to (face) them: He will speak to them, for that mankind did not believe with assurance in Our Signs." - Quran 27:82

There are various hadith though it is considered weak that the beast will have the staff of moses and ring of Solomon and will stamp the disbelievers with the word kafr. This is considered to be from Judaeo-Christian sources.

[pinkpanther]

Let me study more for myself lah!  I need some cross references for more interpretations lah!

The Quran does not mention Noah's sons   not even their names....so if a moslem can give you their names accurately....you have to ask them where did they get their reliable source from?

[S I M T A N]

In these modern times, rejecting the Bible as God's revelation is understandable, given the scholarship already in existence. 

Are people going to be put in hell because the Bible isn't giving anybody any confidence that it is a revelation from God?

Reject God's Word - the Bible - at your own peril. The gospel is God's gift of redemption for the lost. God sent Christ to give people an opportunity for redemption from the guilt they already have. If men reject Christ they face double judgment of rejecting both the Father and the Son. (Col 1:13-17) To those who believe, it's the savor of glory. To those who reject, it is death.

[S I M T A N]

No set of laws can make us righteous before God. Christianity is not a set of rules, but rather a personal relationship with the Lord.

[Lukongsimi]

No set of laws can make us righteous before God. Christianity is not a set of rules, but rather a personal relationship with the Lord.

“Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit. Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be? Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things? Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness. If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things? And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.”
‭‭John‬ ‭3‬:‭3‬-‭21‬ ‭KJV

[Ali Imran]

Reject God's Word - the Bible - at your own peril. The gospel is God's gift of redemption for the lost. God sent Christ to give people an opportunity for redemption from the guilt they already have. If men reject Christ they face double judgment of rejecting both the Father and the Son. (Col 1:13-17) To those who believe, it's the savor of glory. To those who reject, it is death.

1. Is there any claim in the Bible itself that it is from God? I say no, the Bible didn't make that claim.
2. Is there a consensus on which Bible is the word of God? No, there is none. There are many Bibles with different contents. Ergo, we don't know which Bible is the word of God.
3. Is there preservation of the text? No, there is none. Corruption in the text is already a fact admitted by scholars like Bruce Metzger.
4. Is there a contradiction in the teachings? Absolutely. Plenty of contradictions and we have discussed quite a few already.
5. Is there any factual error in the Bible? Yes, like the Joseph and Pharoah story when there were no Pharoah at that time.

How you can still sit there and tell me the Bible is God's word?

[pinkpanther]

We know exactly what "the Torah" and "the Gospel" looked like during the late 5th and early 6th centuries of Muhammad's lifetime. We even have manuscripts from the areas near Syria and the Arabian peninsula from this specific time period. They are virtually identical to the modern Gospels and Torahs we have in translation today. 

Remember Muhammad is told by Allah in Surah Yunas 10:94, that if he has doubt he should look to the Jews and the Christians because they have the previous Scriptures..
If the scriptures are corrupted, then you will face the Moslem dilemma of why Allah would confirmed and endorse them.

If the Bible is true, then the Quran will be false..and if the Bible is false, the Quran will still be false! The Bible is independent of the Quran but the Quran relies on the Bible to stand!

[pinkpanther]

Jesus, son of Mary, said, “O children of Israel! I am truly Allah's messenger to  you, confirming the Torah which came before me, and giving good news of a messenger after me whose name will be Aḥmad

No. None of the Gospels mention the name Ahmed, nor does Jesus ever mention another prophet coming after him.

Tell me where Hope!

[cheekopekman]

Noah cursed Ham’s son Canaan instead
To the lowest of slaves..
Canaan was Noah’s grandson.

Father set a bad example for his son to follow lah!  Beware of what you do or your next generation might be cursed too lah!

[cheekopekman]

I'm currently studying the Bible on Noah and his family lah!  After the flood, they all came out of the ark and Noah's sons, Shem Japheth and Ham were scattered with their own families when Noah died lah! Read Genesis chapters 6 to 11 lah!

God has set the rainbow in the sky as an everlasting covenant with man lah!  No more flood to destroy living creatures lah!

[pinkpanther]

Noah cursed Ham’s son Canaan instead
To the lowest of slaves..
Canaan was Noah’s grandson.

What are the names of Noah's sons? Where was Jesus born? What language did he speak? Show me in the Quran where it tells you that....my moslem bros...without the Bible...you have no knowledge..without the Bible..the Quran cannot stand!

[cheekopekman]

What are the names of Noah's sons? Where was Jesus born? What language did he speak? Show me in the Quran where it tells you that....my moslem bros...without the Bible...you have no knowledge..without the Bible..the Quran cannot stand!

Shem was the eldest son of Noah and Ham the 2nd and Japheth the 3rd lah!  Their descendants were all dispersed and scattered after Noah had died lah!

[pinkpanther]

God has set a rainbow in the sky as an everlasting covenant with man lah!  No more flood to destroy living creatures lah!

The Quran also have the same story about Noah but it left out the rainbow part 
It also left out the Passover...these are important events...

Muhammad left out many details leh....what happen to the chain of communication? Who was forgetful? Angel Gabriel or Muhammad? I don think the Quran is very detail!

Verses such as Surah Al-An'am (6:38) and Surah Al-Nahl (16:89) reference the Quran’s role in providing detailed explanations for various aspects of life and guidance for humanity.

The concept of the Quran being "detailed" can be interpreted in various ways, including:

Spiritual Guidance: It covers fundamentals of faith, worship, and ethics.

Legal Instructions: It provides directives on personal and community conduct.

Historical Narratives: It includes stories of previous prophets and communities as lessons for readers.

Philosophical and Theological Discussions: It addresses profound questions about existence, morality, and the nature of God.

[cheekopekman]

The Quran also have the same story about Noah but it left out the rainbow part 
It also left out the Passover...these are important events...

Muhammad left out many details leh....what happen to the chain of communication? Who was forgetful? Angel Gabriel or Muhammad? I don think the Quran is very detail!

Verses such as Surah Al-An'am (6:38) and Surah Al-Nahl (16:89) reference the Quran’s role in providing detailed explanations for various aspects of life and guidance for humanity.

The concept of the Quran being "detailed" can be interpreted in various ways, including:

Spiritual Guidance: It covers fundamentals of faith, worship, and ethics.

Legal Instructions: It provides directives on personal and community conduct.

Historical Narratives: It includes stories of previous prophets and communities as lessons for readers.

Philosophical and Theological Discussions: It addresses profound questions about existence, morality, and the nature of God.

When you see the rainbow in the sky after a heavy rain remember God's promise lah!

[pinkpanther]

When you see the rainbow in the sky after a heavy rain remember God's promise lah!

Almost 10 years no see rainbow already lah

[pinkpanther]

The Quran doesn't specify how Jesus prayed...for that information, you would need to go to the Bible. It is there that you learn that he fell on his face and prostrated before God...

How come you need to come to the Bible to look for answers? How come you choose to believe certain verses and not these verses...


1. **John 1:1-14**:
   - "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth."

2. **John 10:30**:
   - "I and the Father are one."

3. **Colossians 2:9**:
   - "For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily."

4. **Hebrews 1:3**:
   - "He is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature, and he upholds the universe by the word of his power."

5. **Revelation 1:8**:
   - "I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty."

6. **John 8:58**:
   - "Jesus said to them, 'Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.'"

7. **Matthew 28:18**:
   - "And Jesus came and said to them, 'All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.'"

8. **Philippians 2:6-7**:
   - "Who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men."

[cheekopekman]

What are the names of Noah's sons? Where was Jesus born? What language did he speak? Show me in the Quran where it tells you that....my moslem bros...without the Bible...you have no knowledge..without the Bible..the Quran cannot stand!

The name Jesus never appeared in the OT at all lah!  But He has been there since Creation lah!

[Lukongsimi]

Shem was the eldest son of Noah and Ham the 2nd and Japheth the 3rd lah!  Their descendants were all dispersed and scattered after Noah had died lah!

Only 8 people were saved after the flood.
you might belong to any three of their generations

[Lukongsimi]

Almost 10 years no see rainbow already lah

Saw rainbow 6 years  ago.

[pinkpanther]

The name Jesus never appeared in the OT at all lah!  But He has been there since Creation lah!

Jesus is the Word Of God..coincidentally Jesus is also the Word of God in Islam but they didn't explain why he is given this title in details..

[Lukongsimi]

Father set a bad example for his son to follow lah!  Beware of what you do or your next generation might be cursed too lah!

The Bible instructs us to “bless and do not curse them.” (Romans 12:14) and warns us that "whoever would love life and see good days must keep his tongue from evil and his lips from deceitful speech" (1 Peter 3:10). God clearly instructs Christians to not curse or swear.

[cheekopekman]

The Bible instructs us to “bless and do not curse them.” (Romans 12:14) and warns us that "whoever would love life and see good days must keep his tongue from evil and his lips from deceitful speech" (1 Peter 3:10). God clearly instructs Christians to not curse or swear.

So the generations after Canaan were cursed because Noah cursed Canaan lah!

[S I M T A N]

1. Is there any claim in the Bible itself that it is from God? I say no, the Bible didn't make that claim.
2. Is there a consensus on which Bible is the word of God? No, there is none. There are many Bibles with different contents. Ergo, we don't know which Bible is the word of God.
3. Is there preservation of the text? No, there is none. Corruption in the text is already a fact admitted by scholars like Bruce Metzger.
4. Is there a contradiction in the teachings? Absolutely. Plenty of contradictions and we have discussed quite a few already.
5. Is there any factual error in the Bible? Yes, like the Joseph and Pharoah story when there were no Pharoah at that time.

How you can still sit there and tell me the Bible is God's word?

We know that the Bible has been translated into lots of different languages throughout the centuries. However, the text of the Bible has been accurately preserved all the way through.

Firstly, we've plenty of manuscript evidence, both partial or complete handwritten manuscript copies of the Bible, some dating as back as the 3rd century BC. These manuscripts have allowed textual critics and scholars to verify the fact that the Bible we have today is the same Bible the early church had.

Second, we also have the writings of the church fathers, or leaders in the early church. In their commentaries on the Bible as well as in their letters to other churches, these men quoted the NT Scriptures alone countless times. Their quotations have allowed scholars to reconstruct 99.86% of the NT. There are only 11 verses in the NT which the church fathers obviously never cited.

These two evidences - the manuscript evidence and the writings of the church fathers - verify conclusively that the original text of the Bible has been accurately preserved. You can be absolutely confident that God, who inspired the men to pen the words of the Bible, saw to it that none of the inspired writings were lost. All of the NT is equally inspired (a word meaning "God breathed") and is just as authoritative as the OT Scriptures. (a word meaning "writings) We'd be foolish to think that an all-knowing, all-powerful God could lose track of books He intended to put in the Bible.

[S I M T A N]

“Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit. Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be? Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things? Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness. If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things? And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.”
‭‭John‬ ‭3‬:‭3‬-‭21‬ ‭KJV

Jesus made the connection between the lifting up of the serpent and the Son of Man to illustrate what saving faith and salvation is all about: Because of the Israelites' continued rebellion and ingratitude, God sent poisonous snakes to bite them. As they watched many of their fellows die, the people begged Moses to ask God to heal those who had been bitten by the serpents.

God then instructed Moses to make a bronze image of a serpent, place it on a pole, and tell the people that if anyone who had been bitten by a serpent would look up at the bronze image on the pole, he would immediately be healed and would live.

"And Moses made a bronze serpent and set it on the standard; and it came about, that if a serpent bit any man, when he looked to the bronze serpent, he lived." (Num 21:9)

God could have provided healing for every Israelite who was dying, but He didn't. Instead, God's healing was restricted to those who demonstrated their faith in God's ability to deliver them from death by looking one time at the serpent on the pole.

Jesus used this illustration to show how a person can be saved from eternal death: "As Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up; so that whoever believes will in Him have eternal life. (John 3:14-15)

In the following verse, Jesus applies that story to the issue of salvation:

"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. (v.16)

Eternal life is gifted only to those who exercise personal faith in Jesus and His ability to deliver them from the eternal consequences of sin.

[pinkpanther]

Sunan al-Tirmidhī 486

Umar bin Al-Khattab narrated:

"Indeed the supplication stops between the heavens and the earth. Nothing of it is raised up until you send Salat upon your Prophet."

But got 1 moslem say no intercessor wor!

I think Intercession may not be strictly prohibited. If it were then what is the context of verses such as:

“…who is he that can intercede with Him but by His permission?” (Surah Baqarah, 2:255)

“…there is no intercessor except after His permission…” (Surah Yunus, 10:3)

“They shall not control intercession, save he who has made a covenant with the Beneficent God.” (Surah Maryam, 19:87)

It’s interesting how Allah has added the caveat “except by His permission” in a lot of the verses that refer to intercession. If intercession is indeed allowed, then who is a better intercessor than Muhammad (pbuh)?

[cheekopekman]

Jesus is the Word Of God..coincidentally Jesus is also the Word of God in Islam but they didn't explain why he is given this title in details..

Jesus is God in Man lah!

[Lukongsimi]

Jesus made the connection between the lifting up of the serpent and the Son of Man to illustrate what saving faith and salvation is all about: Because of the Israelites' continued rebellion and ingratitude, God sent poisonous snakes to bite them. As they watched many of their fellows die, the people begged Moses to ask God to heal those who had been bitten by the serpents.

God then instructed Moses to make a bronze image of a serpent, place it on a pole, and tell the people that if anyone who had been bitten by a serpent would look up at the bronze image on the pole, he would immediately be healed and would live.

"And Moses made a bronze serpent and set it on the standard; and it came about, that if a serpent bit any man, when he looked to the bronze serpent, he lived." (Num 21:9)

God could have provided healing for every Israelite who was dying, but He didn't. Instead, God's healing was restricted to those who demonstrated their faith in God's ability to deliver them from death by looking one time at the serpent on the pole.

Jesus used this illustration to show how a person can be saved from eternal death: "As Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up; so that whoever believes will in Him have eternal life. (John 3:14-15)

In the following verse, Jesus applies that story to the issue of salvation:

"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. (v.16)

Eternal life is gifted only to those who exercise personal faith in Jesus and His ability to deliver them from the eternal consequences of sin.

Moses threw his rod on the ground and became a snake n fought  and killed pharaoh’s snake

[pinkpanther]

Jesus is God in Man lah!

Full man Full God lah 

[pinkpanther]

Moses threw his rod on the ground and became a snake n fought  and killed pharaoh’s snake

Yes and the Quran has this one right in details 
Muhammad got this one right! AlhamduliYeshua!