[cheekopekman]

Only 8 people were saved after the flood.
you might belong to any three of their generations

In fact, we are all Abraham's descendants lah!

[cheekopekman]

Moses threw his rod on the ground and became a snake n fought  and killed pharaoh’s snake

There's no magic power in that rod lah!  Moses obeyed God's command and God performed the miracle lah! Pharaoh's magicians no fight lah!

[cheekopekman]

I'm currently studying the Bible on Abraham and the 12 tribes lah!

[Lukongsimi]

I'm currently studying the Bible on Abraham and the 12 tribes lah!

Good! Share what you have read 
😊

[cheekopekman]

Good! Share what you have read 
😊

"Leave your country, your people and your father's household, and go to the land I will show you." Gen 12:1 lah!  The LORD said that to Abram lah!

[Lukongsimi]

There's no magic power in that rod lah!  Moses obeyed God's command and God performed the miracle lah! Pharaoh's magicians no fight lah!

The rod was just ordinary stick use for walking until Moses met God then the rod became a magic stick 

[Lukongsimi]

"Leave your country, your people and your father's household, and go to the land I will show you." Gen 12:1 lah!  The LORD said that to Abram lah!

Good please continue 

[cheekopekman]

The rod was just ordinary stick use for walking until Moses met God then the rod became a magic stick 

It's not a magic stick but God's power was on it lah!

[cheekopekman]

Good please continue 

Wait lah!

[Lukongsimi]

I'm currently studying the Bible on Abraham and the 12 tribes lah!

Which tribe is Jesus from?

the tribe of Judah

Jesus was from the tribe of Judah. Judah was the fourth son of Jacob (Israel). Upon the death of Israel, Judah was given the following prophecy: ''The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be'' (Genesis 49:10).

[Lukongsimi]

After Shem had fathered many children, he passed away at the old age of 600 (Genesis 11:10–11). Shem is mentioned in the New Testament as an ancestor of Jesus (Luke 3:36).

[cheekopekman]

Which tribe is Jesus from?

the tribe of Judah

Jesus was from the tribe of Judah. Judah was the fourth son of Jacob (Israel). Upon the death of Israel, Judah was given the following prophecy: ''The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be'' (Genesis 49:10).

After Shem had fathered many children, he passed away at the old age of 600 (Genesis 11:10–11). Shem is mentioned in the New Testament as an ancestor of Jesus (Luke 3:36).

So which is correct leh?  Judah or Shem leh?

[cheekopekman]

Jesus made the connection between the lifting up of the serpent and the Son of Man to illustrate what saving faith and salvation is all about: Because of the Israelites' continued rebellion and ingratitude, God sent poisonous snakes to bite them. As they watched many of their fellows die, the people begged Moses to ask God to heal those who had been bitten by the serpents.

God then instructed Moses to make a bronze image of a serpent, place it on a pole, and tell the people that if anyone who had been bitten by a serpent would look up at the bronze image on the pole, he would immediately be healed and would live.

"And Moses made a bronze serpent and set it on the standard; and it came about, that if a serpent bit any man, when he looked to the bronze serpent, he lived." (Num 21:9)

God could have provided healing for every Israelite who was dying, but He didn't. Instead, God's healing was restricted to those who demonstrated their faith in God's ability to deliver them from death by looking one time at the serpent on the pole.

Jesus used this illustration to show how a person can be saved from eternal death: "As Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up; so that whoever believes will in Him have eternal life. (John 3:14-15)

In the following verse, Jesus applies that story to the issue of salvation:

"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. (v.16)

Eternal life is gifted only to those who exercise personal faith in Jesus and His ability to deliver them from the eternal consequences of sin.

Actually the interpretation for lifting Jesus up is not so much about the physical act of Jesus on the Cross being lifted up from the ground but more of spiritual importance lah!  "Lift Jesus higher" is a Christian song I like very much lah! When we mention the name of Jesus we are already lifting Him up from the Earth lah! The golden snake on the pole was symbolic but the Jews began to worship that image just like the Israelites worshipping the golden calf lah!

[pinkpanther]

So which is correct leh?  Judah or Shem leh?

Both also right lah

[pinkpanther]

Restorationism: 

Some sects, particularly within Christianity, believe in the restoration of the Twelve Tribes and their eventual return to prominence in biblical prophecy. This belief can lead to tensions over claims to heritage and land, particularly in the context of Israel-Palestine discussions.

[Lukongsimi]

So which is correct leh?  Judah or Shem leh?

In Gen. 9:26, Noah addresses his three sons and blesses Shem:
He also said, "Praise be to the Lord, the God of Shem!" (Gen. 9:26a, NIV)
This is considered to be a Messianic prophecy, in that it is the first indication of the lineage of the Messiah, that he would be a descendant of Shem, and not Shem's brothers, Japheth or Ham.
The Old Testament, especially in the book of Genesis, gives a series of prophecies about the lineage of the Messiah. Gen. 9:26 is viewed as being the first of those prophecies.
To better understand why it is considered a prophecy, let's review the broader context. In Gen. 9:18-28, Noah falls asleep drunk and naked in his tent. His son Ham walks in on him, sees that he is drunk and naked, and tells his brothers.
His brothers, Shem and Japheth, take a garment, enter their father's tent and place it over their naked father. They show respect to their father, even though he is drunk and naked, by never looking directly at him, and they cover him with a garment.
When Noah wakes up and realizes what has happened, he is angry with Ham but pleased with Japheth and Shem.
Noah curses Ham and blesses Japheth and Shem. He tells Ham that Ham's son, Canaan, will be the lowest of slaves.
The blessing and cursings appear to be long-term. Noah isn't just talking about Shem, Ham and Japheth - he is talking about them and their descendants. We see this in verses 26 and 27:

He also said,
"Praise be to the Lord, the God of Shem! May Canaan be the slave of Shem. May God extend Japheth's territory; may Japheth live in the tents of Shem, and may Canaan be the slave of Japheth." (Gen. 9:26-27, NIV)
As you can see, the three sons, and their descendants, are each linked with a blessing or a curse. Japheth is blessed in connection with territory. Ham is cursed with enslavement. Shem is blessed with a connection with God.
Based on this passage, it would make sense that the Messiah would be a descendant of Shem, as opposed to one of Japheth or Ham, given the nature and content of Shem's blessing.
In later verses of Genesis, we begin to see a pattern - God is announcing the lineage of the Messiah, through the form of blessings.
For example, in Gen. 22:18, Abraham is told that his descendants will be a blessing to the world. Abraham is a descendant of Shem. Then in later verses of Genesis, a similar blessing is given to Isaac, who is a son of Abraham, and then to Jacob, who is a son to Isaac.
By the time we get to the end of Genesis, specifically in Gen. 49:10, we learn that the Messiah will come from tribe of Judah, which descends from the lineage of Jacob, Isaac, Abraham and Shem.
This concept of a Messiah coming from a pre-announced lineage continues in other books of the Old Testament until finally we learn that the Messiah will be descendant of King David, such as in Isaiah 11:1-10 and Jeremiah 23:5. By then, it becomes clear that the blessing specifically involves the Messiah.
Whereas Isaiah 11:1-10 and Jeremiah 23:5 can be viewed as among the final prophecies involving the lineage of the Messiah, Gen. 9:26 is viewed as being the very first.
In Luke 3:36, Jesus' genealogy is listed, including Shem as one of his ancestors.
* Note: Moses is not the deliverer of this prophecy but rather the one who recorded the prophecy when he wrote the book of Genesis.

[cheekopekman]

Restorationism: 

Some sects, particularly within Christianity, believe in the restoration of the Twelve Tribes and their eventual return to prominence in biblical prophecy. This belief can lead to tensions over claims to heritage and land, particularly in the context of Israel-Palestine discussions.

There are some connections between the 12 tribes in OT and the 12 apostles in NT lah!

[cheekopekman]

In Gen. 9:26, Noah addresses his three sons and blesses Shem:
He also said, "Praise be to the Lord, the God of Shem!" (Gen. 9:26a, NIV)
This is considered to be a Messianic prophecy, in that it is the first indication of the lineage of the Messiah, that he would be a descendant of Shem, and not Shem's brothers, Japheth or Ham.
The Old Testament, especially in the book of Genesis, gives a series of prophecies about the lineage of the Messiah. Gen. 9:26 is viewed as being the first of those prophecies.
To better understand why it is considered a prophecy, let's review the broader context. In Gen. 9:18-28, Noah falls asleep drunk and naked in his tent. His son Ham walks in on him, sees that he is drunk and naked, and tells his brothers.
His brothers, Shem and Japheth, take a garment, enter their father's tent and place it over their naked father. They show respect to their father, even though he is drunk and naked, by never looking directly at him, and they cover him with a garment.
When Noah wakes up and realizes what has happened, he is angry with Ham but pleased with Japheth and Shem.
Noah curses Ham and blesses Japheth and Shem. He tells Ham that Ham's son, Canaan, will be the lowest of slaves.
The blessing and cursings appear to be long-term. Noah isn't just talking about Shem, Ham and Japheth - he is talking about them and their descendants. We see this in verses 26 and 27:

He also said,
"Praise be to the Lord, the God of Shem! May Canaan be the slave of Shem. May God extend Japheth's territory; may Japheth live in the tents of Shem, and may Canaan be the slave of Japheth." (Gen. 9:26-27, NIV)
As you can see, the three sons, and their descendants, are each linked with a blessing or a curse. Japheth is blessed in connection with territory. Ham is cursed with enslavement. Shem is blessed with a connection with God.
Based on this passage, it would make sense that the Messiah would be a descendant of Shem, as opposed to one of Japheth or Ham, given the nature and content of Shem's blessing.
In later verses of Genesis, we begin to see a pattern - God is announcing the lineage of the Messiah, through the form of blessings.
For example, in Gen. 22:18, Abraham is told that his descendants will be a blessing to the world. Abraham is a descendant of Shem. Then in later verses of Genesis, a similar blessing is given to Isaac, who is a son of Abraham, and then to Jacob, who is a son to Isaac.
By the time we get to the end of Genesis, specifically in Gen. 49:10, we learn that the Messiah will come from tribe of Judah, which descends from the lineage of Jacob, Isaac, Abraham and Shem.
This concept of a Messiah coming from a pre-announced lineage continues in other books of the Old Testament until finally we learn that the Messiah will be descendant of King David, such as in Isaiah 11:1-10 and Jeremiah 23:5. By then, it becomes clear that the blessing specifically involves the Messiah.
Whereas Isaiah 11:1-10 and Jeremiah 23:5 can be viewed as among the final prophecies involving the lineage of the Messiah, Gen. 9:26 is viewed as being the very first.
In Luke 3:36, Jesus' genealogy is listed, including Shem as one of his ancestors.
* Note: Moses is not the deliverer of this prophecy but rather the one who recorded the prophecy when he wrote the book of Genesis.

Well written lah, bro!

[S I M T A N]

Actually the interpretation for lifting Jesus up is not so much about the physical act of Jesus on the Cross being lifted up from the ground but more of spiritual importance lah!  "Lift Jesus higher" is a Christian song I like very much lah! When we mention the name of Jesus we are already lifting Him up from the Earth lah! The golden snake on the pole was symbolic but the Jews began to worship that image just like the Israelites worshipping the golden calf lah!

You could say "lifting up" has a spiritual and symbolic significance in that truth, which is that narrow belief that faith in Jesus is the only way a person can enter into heaven. For the Israelites, a one-time glance at the bronze serpent brought healing while for us today, a one-time belief in Jesus's ability to forgive our sins bring eternal life. Faith is an essential ingredient of the gospel.

I'm enamoured with parables about salvation. Another important spiritual lesson pertains to the shut door of the Ark. Jesus not only opens doors, the Bible also says He shuts doors. (Rev 3:7) What are some of the doors that Jesus shuts? Well, for one thing, He shuts the doors of the floodgates of wrath.

In the days of Noah, the Lord made a covenant with Noah. (Gen 6:18) Noah obeyed God and built the ark. Then the day came when God told Noah and his sons and their wives to enter into the ark for their own safety and preservation. God also told Noah to take two of every kind of bird and animal to preserve God's creation. (v.19)

Evidently others had the opportunity to enter the ark so they'd be safe when the flood came. The Bible calls Noah a preacher of righteousness (2 Peter 2:5). However, the wicked people of that generation didn't listen or take advantage of the opportunity.

"And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth" (Gen 6:13-16).

God specifically told Noah to build the ark with a door on it. But Noah didn't shut the door of the ark himself; he couldn't. The Bible said it was the Lord who shut the door on Noah and his family. Although the door was a door of salvation to Noah and his family, the door also represented a door of judgment to those without or outside the ark.

"And they that went in, went in male and female of all flesh, as God had commanded him: AND THE LORD SHUT HIM IN" (Gen 7:16).

The Lord shut the door on Noah and his family to protect them from the wrath that was coming. By shutting the door, God shut out the wrath from these eight souls who were saved by water. (1 Peter 3:20) When the rain descended and the flood came, that old ark began to float. The water kept rising until it was above the housetops and the treetops. Probably many of Noah's relatives, friends, and neighbors came swimming around that ark crying out, "Noah, let us in! Noah, let us in!"

It was too late. Noah couldn't open the door for them cos he hadn't shut it; God had shut the door. The same door that shut Noah and his family in, shut out those wicked folks. They should have entered the ark of safety when Noah preached and gave them the opportunity (2 Peter 2:5). The shutting of these doors and the inability of men to open doors once it's too late remind me of another door or opening, and that's the gates of hell.

[pinkpanther]

Surah 2 :85

But here you are, killing each other and expelling some of your people from their homes, aiding one another in sin and aggression; and when those ˹expelled˺ come to you as captives, you still ransom them—though expelling them was unlawful for you.1 Do you believe in some of the Scripture and reject the rest? Is there any reward for those who do so among you other than disgrace in this worldly life and being subjected to the harshest punishment on the Day of Judgment? For Allah is never unaware of what you do.

The Quran says to those who pick and choose what they want to believe in the scripture, they are going to be tormented in the hereafter and they are a disgrace in this life..

[victortan]

The angel told me in a cave at Bt Timah hill that BTC gg to 1m!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

buy buy or bye bye.

[pinkpanther]

The angel told me in a cave at Bt Timah hill that BTC gg to 1m!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

buy buy or bye bye.

Did the angel identify himself to you?

[Lukongsimi]

The five virgins who have the extra oil represent the truly born again who are looking with eagerness to the coming of Christ. They have saving faith and have determined that, whatever occurs, be it lengthy time or adverse circumstances, when Jesus returns, they will be looking with eagerness. The five virgins without the oil represent false believers who enjoy the benefits of the Christian community without true love for Christ. They are more concerned about the party than about longing to see the bridegroom. Their hope is that their association with true believers (“give us some of your oil” of verse 8) will bring them into the kingdom at the end. This, of course, is never the case. One person’s faith in Jesus cannot save another. The “Lord, lord” and “I do not know you” of verses 11 and 12 fit very well with Jesus’ condemnation of the false believers of Matthew 7:21-23, “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness.’”

May we not be found “going away to make the purchase” (v. 10) when Christ returns. Take the time now to fill your lamp with oil and take extra along. Keep waiting and watching with joy and anticipation.

[Lukongsimi]

Did the angel identify himself to you?

That one is 
Chye Sng ya lah 😄

[pinkpanther]

That one is 
Chye Sng ya lah 😄

[cheekopekman]

Wait lah!

Abram built an altar to the LORD wherever he went to lah!  Recorded twice in Genesis 12:7-8 lah!

[pinkpanther]

Abram built an altar to the LORD wherever he went to lah!  Recorded twice in Genesis 12:7-8 lah!

Here is the Question:
It says in the Quran that Abraham was a Muslim and along with his son,they built the Kaaba. According to Torah and Bible, Abraham never went to Mecca.
So why the differences?

Look at how the Moslems went to the Bible to justify their answer..

https://islamqa.info/en/answers/204341/i...-the-bible

[Lukongsimi]

Here is the Question:
It says in the Quran that Abraham was a Muslim and along with his son,they built the Kaaba. According to Torah and Bible, Abraham never went to Mecca.
So why the differences?

Look at how the Moslems went to the Bible to justify their answer..

https://islamqa.info/en/answers/204341/i...-the-bible

enesis 12:1–6

After Terah died Abram listened to the Lord when he told him “get thee out of thy country…”. And so he packed up the family and went to Sichem to live with the Canaanites. In Genesis 12:7 the LORD actually appears to Abram to tell him to take the land.

Genesis 12:8

After traveling from Sichem to Bethel Abram called upon the Lord with thanksgiving and offerings. Abram was faithful to continually call upon the Lord for direction.

Genesis 12:9–13

They continued south toward Egypt because there was a famine in the land. It was at this stop that Abram convinced Sarai to lie and tell the Egyptians that she was his sister, rather than his wife. He feared that if they learned she was his wife that they would kill him so they could take his wife.

Genesis 13:1–4

Abram returned to Bethel from Egypt along with the abundance of cattle, silver and gold. Again Abram called unto the Lord for guidance. From there he traveled back to Hebron.

Genesis 14:1-16

During Abram’s trip from Hebron to Holbah near Damascus he is faced with the need to rescue Lot and the women along with many possessions from a band of robbers.

Genesis 14:16-20

When Abram returned to Hebron with his kinfolk and possessions he received praise from Melchizedek the king of Salem, whom was also a priest.

Genesis 20:1-21:16

Next stop in his travels was Gerar where Isaac was born. In this passage we also read of the exile of Hagar and Ishmael in the desert. Hagar was Sarah’s handmaid that was given to Abraham when Sarah was barren. Abraham is the father of Ishmael and when Isaac was born Ishmael was about 13 years old. Jealousy between Sarah and Hagar caused Abraham to send them into the desert.

Genesis 21:29-33

From Gerar Abraham traveled to Beer-sheba where he made a covenant, as sort of peace treaty, with Abimelech king of Gerar. In this Abimelech was asking Abraham to deal fairly with he and his people and promise not to tell anymore lies, such as he did about his wife.

Genesis 22:1-19

It was the journey from Beer-sheba to Mt. Moriah that God sent Abraham to sacrifice his son Isaac as a test of his faith. God spared Isaac after testing Abraham. And then Abraham returned to Beer-sheba.

Genesis 23:1-25:8

Abraham went back up to Hebron to purchase a burial place for his wife and then he returned back to Beer-Sheba where he died. He was then carried by Isaac and Ishmael to his final resting place back in Hebron where Sarah was buried.

Read more: https://www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com/when-god-told-abraham-to-go-where-did-he-travel/#ixzz8xkijwirY

[cheekopekman]

Here is the Question:
It says in the Quran that Abraham was a Muslim and along with his son,they built the Kaaba. According to Torah and Bible, Abraham never went to Mecca.
So why the differences?

Look at how the Moslems went to the Bible to justify their answer..

https://islamqa.info/en/answers/204341/i...-the-bible

Where in the Bible do you see "Mecca" leh?  The Bible is the Word of God lah! If God didn't say you better don't anyhow say lah!

[pinkpanther]

Where in the Bible do you see "Mecca" leh?  The Bible is the Word of God lah! If God didn't say you better don't anyhow say lah!

I never say lah...the Quran says so