Scripture readings for Christmas

(30-01-2025, 11:13 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Yours Where got everything ?
Bible got crucifixion n resurrection plus so many miracles
Do you want to discuss crucifixion and resurrection? We believe it never happened.

Miracles- as per Quran, 
Newborn Jesus talk to elders.Can you find this in the bible?
Jesus made birds with clay. Can you find this in the Bible?
Jesus was able to tell what food people ate and store in their houses . Can you find this in the bible?
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(30-01-2025, 11:13 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Muhammad has weird taste...He likes extremely old woman and extremely young girls..

Sahih al-Bukhari 5133

Narrated `Aisha:

that the Prophet (ﷺ) married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (ie, till his death).

All his marriages were happen with the knowledge of Allah.
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(30-01-2025, 01:10 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Bible taught us worship God in Spirit n in Truth.


Absolutely! Our spirit is capable of communicating directly with God and worshiping Him, as attested by 1 Cor 6:17: "He who is joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him."

Neither soul nor body can unite with God; the spirit alone is capable of uniting with Him. And the spirit alone is capable of true worship. Jesus said in John 4:23-24, "But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him. God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth."

Now what is spirit? Gen 1:26 tells us that God chose to make man in His own "image" and "likeness." I believe image refers to outward appearance, and man's outward appearance mirrors the outward appearance of God. Likeness should be referring to the internal structure of the triune Godhead: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Thus, man's spirit, soul, and body correspond to the 3 components of the Trinity.

This internal structure of the human personality can be traced back to God's creation of man. God breathed in Adam to produce a spirit within him; therefore, the human spirit proceeds from God's breath (Gen1:7). In both Hebrew and Greek, the words "spirit" and "breath" are synonyms. The body was clay infused with divine life to become Adam.
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(30-01-2025, 11:47 PM)Hope Wrote:  All his marriages were happen with the knowledge of Allah.

Allah gave him so much pleasure on earth and in the afterlife..he is guarantee 72 more... Big Grin ..are you looking forward to your 72 virgins? Big Grin
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(30-01-2025, 11:13 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Muhammad has weird taste...He likes extremely old woman and extremely young girls..

Sahih al-Bukhari 5133

Narrated `Aisha:

that the Prophet (ﷺ) married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (ie, till his death).

I remembered this particular moslem who tried to conceal the young age of Aisha by addressing her as a "young woman"....Taqiyya!
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(30-01-2025, 11:38 PM)Hope Wrote:  You don’t want to know the truth?


https://youtu.be/--500F3dKBk?si=0_e-e6Q9yWWoXigr

What is the truth?
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(30-01-2025, 11:27 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Why u purposely point at catholic ?
trouble maker ?

No, I disagree. Catholics are not troublemakers.

I brought up Catholics because their practice is different from yours. You said the Holy Spirit guides but which denomination are being guided?
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(31-01-2025, 12:16 AM)S I M T A N Wrote:  Absolutely! Our spirit is capable of communicating directly with God and worshiping Him, as attested by 1 Cor 6:17: "He who is joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him."

Neither soul nor body can unite with God; the spirit alone is capable of uniting with Him. And the spirit alone is capable of true worship. Jesus said in John 4:23-24, "But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him. God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth."

Now what is spirit? Gen 1:26 tells us that God chose to make man in His own "image" and "likeness." I believe image refers to outward appearance, and man's outward appearance mirrors the outward appearance of God. Likeness should be referring to the internal structure of the triune Godhead: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Thus, man's spirit, soul, and body correspond to the 3 components of the Trinity.

This internal structure of the human personality can be traced back to God's creation of man. God breathed in Adam to produce a spirit within him; therefore, the human spirit proceeds from God's breath (Gen1:7). In both Hebrew and Greek, the words "spirit" and "breath" are synonyms. The body was clay infused with divine life to become Adam.

Which one is true? God is one as taught by Jesus or God is a Trinity as taught by the Church? I guess you'll pick the latter but that begs the question. When Jesus was asked what is the most important commandment, he quoted the Shema, that God is one. A couple of hundred years after Jesus, God became a Trinity. How come? Who came up with the idea of the Trinity? It wasn't Paul. It wasn't the early church fathers because they all didn't mention the Trinity. The first writings of the early church fathers that mentioned the Trinity was almost 3 hundred years after Jesus.
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(30-01-2025, 11:00 PM)Hope Wrote:  Which topic you want to discuss? We have everything.

Your Quran contain everything? Can you show me from quran how Jesus prayed? Show me Jesus was a carpenter from the quran.. Where was Jesus born, and which language did he speak?

If your Quran have all these information, I will go to the nearest hospital ,circumcise immediately and take up Islamic studies...
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You stupiak fellow...every morning must scold you Big Grin who says that the catholics are not guided by the Holy Spirit. Big Grin
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(30-01-2025, 11:45 PM)Hope Wrote:  Do you want to discuss crucifixion and resurrection? We believe it never happened.

Miracles- as per Quran, 
Newborn Jesus talk to elders.Can you find this in the bible?
Jesus made birds with clay. Can you find this in the Bible?
Jesus was able to tell what food people ate and store in their houses . Can you find this in the bible?
Crucifxion n resurrection are Important happenings u don’t want to
Believe how to go paradise ?

Below are Those added story bird clay ..no such thing in Bible after 500 years later
To make the kueh more delicious for people to salivate?

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(31-01-2025, 08:00 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  No, I disagree. Catholics are not troublemakers.

I brought up Catholics because their practice is different from yours. You said the Holy Spirit guides but which denomination are being guided?

U are the trouble maker purposely point at catholic and  the thread starter is a catholic 
U should ask him instead

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(31-01-2025, 08:49 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  U are the trouble maker purposely point at catholic and  the thread starter is a catholic 
U should ask him instead

Thread starter just started this thread but make no efforts to defend his religion  Big Grin
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(31-01-2025, 08:56 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Thread starter just started this thread but make no efforts to defend his religion  Big Grin

And this 1 month thread keeps dragging 
Lol

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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I came to know Jesus when I was studying in a Catholic school
One day it was raining heavily I hid in the church to avoid rain
Looked at Jesus statue knelt down and prayed
“Lord can you send my father to fetch me I can’t go home in this heavy rain”
Soon my father came and looked for me
God do answer prayer
😊

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(31-01-2025, 09:03 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  And this 1 month thread keeps dragging 
Lol

Yes....never ending.... Big Grin
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The word and idea Tawhid was invented centuries after Muhammad...stupiak to compare to Trinity
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(31-01-2025, 08:49 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  U are the trouble maker purposely point at catholic and  the thread starter is a catholic 
U should ask him instead

You were the one who said the Holy Spirit guides. How come you cannot tell me who is being guided?
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(31-01-2025, 09:09 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  I came to know Jesus when I was studying in a Catholic school
One day it was raining heavily I hid in the church to avoid rain
Looked at Jesus statue knelt down and prayed
“Lord can you send my father to fetch me I can’t go home in this heavy rain”
Soon my father came and looked for me
God do answer prayer
😊

If a Hindu student prays to Ganesh for similar assistance and gets the same result, does it mean Ganesh is also God?
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(31-01-2025, 09:09 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  I came to know Jesus when I was studying in a Catholic school
One day it was raining heavily I hid in the church to avoid rain
Looked at Jesus statue knelt down and prayed
“Lord can you send my father to fetch me I can’t go home in this heavy rain”
Soon my father came and looked for me
God do answer prayer
😊

 Yes lah.. Jesus is there and will answer... that is the most consistent part in all testimonies. If your mother is unwell or you’re facing persistent challenges, just reach out to Jesus. Our Moslem bros should take this step too, instead of living in denial and missing out on the incredible things that the living God can reveal to you...
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(31-01-2025, 10:17 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:   Yes lah.. Jesus is there and will answer... that is the most consistent part in all testimonies. If your mother is unwell or you’re facing persistent challenges, just reach out to Jesus. Our Moslem bros should take this step too, instead of living in denial and missing out on the incredible things that the living God can reveal to you...

wonder the 2 moslems got any testimonies ?
So far no heard any?
Testimonies are for the Glory of God.

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(31-01-2025, 08:37 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Your Quran contain everything? Can you show me from quran how Jesus prayed? Show me Jesus was a carpenter from the quran.. Where was Jesus born, and which language did he speak?

If your Quran have all these information, I will go to the nearest hospital ,circumcise immediately and take up Islamic studies...

Firstly , when you said Islam mainly talk about sex, I said we have everything. It means Every aspect of our life.

Secondly, if you want to become a Muslim,No need to Potong first. You have to only declare and accept oneness of God which is called sahada.

Birth place of Jesus- as per Quran, Mary was
Conceived when She withdrew to the east of the
City.She gave birth under a date tree, near a water spring, in a remote area.

Language-Quran didn’t mentioned his language. However Islamic scholars believe that he spoke Aramaic when he grew up.That could be the one of the reasons, He is decending to Damascus.As per Quran He spoke to Rabbis and elders when His mother was accused of adultery. It means He knew Hebrew as well.

Occupation -Quran says he was a prophet by birth.His Job was to call people to Islam.Islam elevate him instead of calling him a carpenter.

How did he pray- Quran say He came to confirm the previous scriptures and messengers.As per Quran and Hadith every Messenger has prostrate d which is an act of humility,Submission and Praise Allah
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(31-01-2025, 09:57 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  If a Hindu student prays to Ganesh for similar assistance and gets the same result, does it mean Ganesh is also God?

If ?….means u r not sure got such miracles

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(31-01-2025, 10:29 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  wonder the 2 moslems got any testimonies ?
So far no heard any?
Testimonies are for the Glory of God.

They pray to a wall most of their lives and no one has any testimony to bear witness of their God....that is the fact and reality of life!
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(31-01-2025, 10:31 AM)Hope Wrote:  Firstly , when you said Islam mainly talk about sex, I said we have everything. It means Every aspect of our life.

Secondly, if you want to become a Muslim,No need to Potong first. You have to only declare and accept oneness of God which is called sahada.

Birth place of Jesus- as per Quran, Mary was
Conceived when She withdrew to the east of the
City.She gave birth under a palm tree, near a water spring, in a remote area.

Language-Quran didn’t mentioned his language. However Islamic scholars believe that he spoke Aramaic.That could be the one of the reasons, He is decending to Damascus.

Occupation -Quran says he was a prophet by birth.His Job was to call people to Islam.Islam elevate him instead of calling him a carpenter.

How did he pray- Quran say He came to confirm the previous scriptures and messengers.As per Quran and Hadith every Messenger has prostrate d which is an act of humility,Submission and Praise Allah

Wah you are definitely more knowledgeable than your companion...
How to say the sahada when you don speak Arabic? Big Grin
Do you speak to Muhammad in Arabic?
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(31-01-2025, 10:32 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  If ?….means u r not sure got such miracles

Do you think that every prayer made by Christians to Jesus will be answered?
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(31-01-2025, 10:33 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  They pray to a wall most of their lives and no one has any testimony to bear witness of their God....that is the fact and reality of life!

Walls surrounded by emptiness can only echo their voice back loud n clear.

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(31-01-2025, 10:41 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Do you think that every prayer made by Christians to Jesus will be answered?

Most prayers.. depend on what u pray for.

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(31-01-2025, 10:43 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Walls surrounded by emptiness can only echo their voice back loud n clear.

Yes...very sad and lonely feeling..
I think they like it better in mosque, can see see look look and talk with friends...
Talk what? Talk abt the Withdrawal of the p_nis...is it permissible in the mosque? Big Grin
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(31-01-2025, 10:44 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Most prayers.. depend on what u pray for.

What about Jesus's prayer while he was in the garden in Gethsemane?

Was it answered?
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